Obama Administration: We Can Use “Executive Action” To Implement Gun Control

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Vice President Joe Biden is saying that President Obama may not need Congress to implement tough new gun control laws.

“The president is going to act,” the Vice President said today. “There are executives orders — executive action that can be taken. We haven’t decided what that is yet. But we’re compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and all the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action, we believe is required.”

Whatever your position on gun control, we shouldn’t want solutions to such controversial issues through executive authority.

The democratic process is important. It’s what separates us from anarchy, or rule at the point of a gun. But democracy is a concept that society, at large, must buy into. It is not merely the existence of elections in a society that makes democracy. The process is important.

If Americans feel like the democratic process doesn’t count, or if they feel like our rulers can short circuit that process and impose restrictive and controversial new laws through fiat, then we undermine the respect for democracy.

A good parallel for this is the judicial system’s decision to create a right to abortion out of whole cloth. That right did not exist before Roe vs. Wade. We did not engage in the legislative process through it. Our elected representatives did not vote to create that right. The courts simply waved their judicial wands and created it.

And to this day abortion remains one of the most divisive, controversial issues in the nation due no small part to how it was settled.

Win or lose, Americans need to feel like their was a process. They need to feel like they had something to do with that process. That’s what self-government means. But if Americans get the idea that the democratic process only applies some of the time, then they’re going to lose respect for the process.

And if that happens, our society is in peril.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • SigFan

    Depending on what actions he tries to take Obama may find that he finally overstepped his authority and the patience of the public. Perilous times for America are imminent.

    • $8194357

      Bannana republic thugs….

    • slackwarerobert

      We may already be there. So far I haven’t fount the sever-ability clause in obamacare that the courts say is in there. I remember Reid pulling it out, and the house passed his bill, so if it isn’t there then they wrote their own tax law and that means bullets start flying. Been waiting years for concrete proof the courts have gone over the edge, but you can’t prove their idiot logic reasoning is unconstitutional. But this is simple, since some of it was unconstitutional it must have the clause. Just forcing us to read that monstrosity when even they didn’t should be all the reason you need to shoot people though.

  • $8194357

    Gun control is soooo simple…
    Practice until you can hit what your shooting at….

    • two_amber_lamps

      Nothing a snap cap, proper sight alignment and practiced trigger squeeze can’t fix.

      • slackwarerobert

        And if all else fails buy a laser dot. I always thought they were a gimmick till the power grid failed. I couldn’t see my hand let alone the sights of the gun. I so wanted to pop off a round to check out the muzzle flash, but couldn’t see a tree to use for a backstop. Wild animal in that kind of blackness would be very bad for you. I now have one lazer sight.

        • two_amber_lamps

          I prefer my 5mW green laser… also usable under full daylight.

          http://www.viridiangreenlaser.com/

          A laser is great for specific uses, but not a replacement for good shooting fundamentals. Batteries fail, and lasers won’t help you for a 500 yd shot if your fundamentals are lacking.

          For those who are new to the hobby, they tend to become a crutch. But for CQB and low-light, they’re great.

  • LastBestHope

    Classic distraction strategy. Guns don’t matter to The One…driving US to economic ruin is his goal. In a couple of months, Obama will “give in” on guns (he’s so reasonable)…in exchange, he’ll demand the House give up on spending cuts.(if they don’t, GOP = unreasonable)
    Cue the media to push that narrative Forward.

    Transform America…..to a nation of dependent serfs.

    • slackwarerobert

      Why doesn’t the media ask him why he is trying to shut down the only viable manufacturing companies in the US? You would think he would be giving them awards for all the jobs they create trying to fill all these orders.

  • schreib

    Obama is looking more and more like Lenin or Stalin . If he does this, I believe there is no other course to us except impeachment. Add to that, fast and furious, Libya, not enforcing the defense of marriage act, and the HHS mandate among other things. I am sick and tired of Barry the dictator. Obobo sucks.

    • slackwarerobert

      Don’t forget outright MURDER of americans. He even brags he has a hit list on people he wants dead.

  • schreib

    No new gun laws. No more gun-free zones. Most of the shootings have involved seriously mental ill people. Take care of that first. The 2nd amendment was more about keeping government in check———-not hunting

    • slackwarerobert

      And you can’t cure the ill as long as going to them to get help strips you of your rights for life.

  • slackwarerobert

    Yes he can use executive orders to control federal employees access to guns. But since I am not one, all he can do is wait for me to use breathing control to place my shot on target if he tries to expand his authority past that. I have been preparing since pelosi took over, and he will not like what I have devised to solve the problems with washington.
    Just hope the rioting hoards of holders people leave something for the rest of us.

    If 51 senators fall ill with lead poisoning, can they pass any bills? Does the shadow senator from DC count towards a quorum?
    Do you shoot all 9 justices because of equal treatment, or can you shoot just the 5 that violated their oath?
    Can you shoot the press as the forth branch of government?

    Do you tell the first DC policeman you are just exercising your rights and then shoot him when he goes for his gun, or do you have to tell each one before shooting them?
    The founders never envisioned a 5/4 entrenched tyranny I think.

    I asked for the list of presidential succession for at least a thousand places, and over 3 years and no reply. Course obama hasn’t replied to my query if he wanted to start a tradition for IL presidents either, knowing how dumb he was I pointed out Lincoln at least was fighting for the country not against it.

    Once you pull the trigger on the government you only have two choices, Die, or restore the republic. You can’t win till they surrender, so you need to know who can surrender.

    But if you want a good laugh, write your congressman and ask for help getting a DC carry permit for when you visit their office. I got over a dozen panicked calls that ranted on and on till the tape ran out so never got past the area code. Only calls I ever got from any of the crooks. So, “Hi I am stopping by with my guns” seems to get there attention very fast.

  • HG

    The President is arrogant enough to try this, no doubt about it. But anything he tries will immediately be tied up in the courts. Any sort of ban on semi-autos and magazines is likely to fail. And don’t even think for a minute anyone will be turning in any guns involuntarily. Once that line is crossed, it could get ugly.

    • SigFan

      “Could” get ugly? Guaranteed to get ugly and in a hurry.

      • slackwarerobert

        Only for those dumb enough to listen to his orders.

    • slackwarerobert

      They only get one surprise visit to take away guns, after that we are waiting for them. And they don’t have enough people to jump everyone at once.

  • http://randysroundtable.blogspot.com/ Randy G

    Our society has been in peril since Jan of 2009 when Barry the Marxist was sworn in.

    • $8194357

      10X

    • camsaure

      Actually, I think both Roosevelts, Wilson, Johnson, Carter and Obama to name the worst of the worse. We have been under incremental (progressive) attack for over a hundred years. Do a search on the internet on Fabian socialism and the progressive movement in America. You will find articles both pro and con, but you will see why many politicians are unwilling and dishonest enough to not admit being such.

      • slackwarerobert

        Don’t forget nixon and bush. Between the EPA, and homeland security, they are the gifts that keep on giving. The courts have said we don’t have to pay the seniors benefits, good luck getting them to say we don’t have to pay those crooks who rule us.

    • slackwarerobert

      Sadly, Nixon was the last honest government. He was removed for not upholding the law. Now the president not only refuses to uphold the law he is writing his own laws, and MURDERING people. Going to s*ck to be a tyrant very soon as the Tree of Liberty gets a much needed feeding. That is why I couldn’t vote for romney, I knew he wouldn’t uphold the law either, and would hate to shoot such a good family man. Florida needs to hurry up and find zimmerman not guilty so the idiot cannon fodder will give us cover for the real assault on washington.

  • schreib

    Obama is nothing but a traitorous pompous Jackass

  • schreib

    And drunk with his own power

  • Hellboy

    The Second Amendment protects the First Amendment……

    • $8194357

      10X

  • DakotaKid

    Fascist!

    • two_amber_lamps

      Fascist!

      Meet the various hydra-heads of the totalitarian/authoritarian monster….

      fascist = socialist = communist = statist (liberal)

      The particulars might be different… but it’s all just window dressing.

  • $8194357

    And the PC facists say we can’t even call them “socialists”.

    http://www.nachumlist.com/Socialists.htm

    David Axelrod
    Howard Berkowitz
    Dr. Donald Berwick
    Ron Bloom
    David Bonior
    Rick Bookstaber
    Rosa Brooks
    Carol Browner
    Anita Dunn
    William C. Dudley (President of the Fed Res Bank)
    Blair W. Effron
    Michael Froman
    Anne Fudge
    Patrick Gaspard
    Richard Gephardt
    Michael Granoff
    Heather Higginbottom
    John P. Holdren
    Valerie Jarrett
    Van Jones http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/STORMSummationVanJones.pdf
    Elena Kagan (SCOTUS)
    Edward Micheal Liddy
    Mark Lloyd
    Ed Montgomery
    Cecelia Muñoz (La Raza)
    Duncan Niederaur
    Barack Obama President of the United States – long term association with Democratic Socialists of America (DSA).
    Richard Perry
    Samantha Power
    Hannah Rosenthal
    Hilda Solis
    Cass Sunstein
    John Thain
    Laura D’Andrea Tyson

    • two_amber_lamps

      Ol’ Joe McCarty was on to something then… seems the weeds have overgrown the garden.

      • $8194357

        10X 2 lamps…
        And the hybred Alinsky by any means communist
        meets islamic taqiyya/kitman deceptions…

        Twin brothers from lucifers ideological mother…

  • Neiman

    There is something addictive about absolute power, far too many leaders, entranced by the worship of adoring followers; all of those people, not one excluded that, are not looking for a god to follow, a charismatic man to rule their lives, to take away the struggles and pain of living and who will lead them to Shangri-La, where everything is perfect. Once caught up in the worship, few men can resist the feeling they really are god like and that whatever they do must be right and that they deserve ultimate power. Such is Obama and such is the Democrat Party, his disciples. He has been aided by a feckless Congress of course, but from the beginning he did not negotiate, he never compromised, he fell in love with Executive Power, simply appointing many Vice Presidents (Czars) without Advice and Consent, issuing orders through them to by-pass the Congress and avoiding the people.

    Notice his State Apostles (Democrat governors) are beginning to see a crisis to exploit and the they too are threatening without their Legislatures if necessary to ignore the 2nd Amendment and so to is Comrade-Chairman Obama. Many of us warned that Obama is a dictator in the making and we see that the North America Chavez (Obama) is being seduced by absolute power and if he can take away the power for the people to defend themselves against the State, what will stop him from being President for Life?

    • Chuck

      Some submit to a charismatic leader for comfort and false security, others turn to mythology and mythological figures. Either way is the way of the fool.

      • Neiman

        Only a FOOL hath said in his heart says there is no God. That’s you, right?

        The Almighty God of the Bible is no myth! You are a fool for not seeing that He is the Author/Designer of all creation.

        • Chuck

          I didn’t expect you to agree. Im aware that you at least pretend to submit to a mythological figurehead. My point both are pathetic, as are you.

          • Neiman

            Well, beyond being a fool, it appears you are quite juvenile as well. Your response is akin to na na na na na na na.

          • Chuck

            Being the delusional submissive lamb of an invisible man in the sky, Im not surprised you think so. you are no bette than those who worship at the feet of obama or any other politio with charm and skill at manipulation. Worse if you think about. At least, as detestable as they may be, the people are actualy real and not a made up fantasy.

          • Neiman

            Let us see who plays the fool, the man (you) that sees around him massive evidences of incredibly complex design and yet denies the existence of a preexisting Designer greater than the things designed; or one (me) that sees around him in the universe overwhelming proof of God’s existence and in Christ, evidence that demands a verdict in favor of Christ.

          • Chuck

            The “overwhelming proof” you see is the same mental weakness that makes you submit to an invisible man in the sky. It’s what you need to see in order to support your pathetic delusions of an invisible master in the sky who loves you and protects you. It’s all fear based delusion and weakness of mind. I feel sorry for you. Going through life on a state of lower brain fear must be pretty rough, not to mention the ridicule and humiliation you subject yourself to.

          • Neiman

            It is amazing how many top scientists in every field agree with me that the evidence demands a Designer pre-existent and greater than the things designed.Try reading “The Case for God” at any Christian book store, it is science, not religion and it proves you wrong. So, you are wearing blinders.

        • slackwarerobert

          I see no conflict in believing in god, and still taking care of the problem myself. David didn’t wait for god to take care of Goliath, he got the job done, and thanked god for giving him the strength to do it. Waiting for the leader or god to take care of the problem for you is the foolish thing to do.

          • Neiman

            I was talking about the dictatorial tendencies of Obama and the willingness of people to allow it in the false hope of safety.

            Contrary to popular opinion the Bible does not teach God helps those that help themselves. David was God’s anointed and was not taking action outside of God’s leading.

          • slackwarerobert

            As am I, so I can deal with obama when the time is right. While holders people are burning down the capital when zinmmerman is freed is the best time. But there are others that will work for freedom and liberty.

          • Neiman

            There is no proof you are even a Christian, let alone that you are God’s anointed servant or doing God’s Will; and, if you are lying or self deceived, you will suffer the penalty for your blasphemy and any actions you take outside His Word. Under the Christian Gospel, you will find little support for violence beyond self-defense, personal and national..

          • Chuck

            So if a popular politician says its ok to kill, then your invisible man in the sky is ok with it?

          • Neiman

            As I expected a childish question, akin to can God make a rock He cannot lift or have you stopped beating your wife yet.

            We are to obey those in authority over us unless it conflicts with God’s Will; and, we are not in submission to anyone on earth above God.

          • slackwarerobert

            Exactly, he says it is my job to stop the killer and protect life.

          • slackwarerobert

            That I can denounce a pedophile pope should be all the proof you need. He gave me the right to bare arms, he gave me the ability to use them and not endanger others. His emissary said it was wrong to go along with hitler the last time, so why would he want to go along with him this time? I have turned my truck axle into a rifle, sorry but I still need the plow to feed the family in the coming apocalypse. The proof is in the puddin so to speak. If his holiness rises from the dead after 3 days in the capital rotunda then I am in deep dodo I guess. But you don’t think a government using unmanned drones to kill it’s own citizens doesn’t rise to self defense? A ruler who brags on TV he has kill lists of people he doesn’t like and has them killed. A court that writes their own laws, then rules them constitutional. I will admit there isn’t much left to save country wise, but there are still pockets of people worth fighting for. A few are even in my home.

          • Neiman

            I am no fan of the Roman Catholic Church, so your arguments are next to nothing to me. There is much wrong with our government, many of your charges are quite true; but it is not the job of the Christian to change America, only to seek Christ to change them and they in turn to be a good moral example to others and be instrumental in God’s Hands to change the hearts of others. God did not send us to change governments or political ideologies, only to take the Gospel to the lost and hopefull change some hearts along the way.

            If I feel defense of the country is legitimate, I find no reason in Scripture not to serve, and that only honorably. I find no prohibition against self defense of of the family or others being victimized. But, all must be in harmony with God’s Word, according to His Will.

          • $8194357

            And David gave thanks to God for his victories as well..

    • slackwarerobert

      Obama will be a bigger problem with that stupid autopen, but state governors would have a problem trying to sign a budget while in hiding in chavez’s palace. Because it only takes ONE bullet to solve the problem at the state level, and after one year the state would have no money do do anything if he stays in hiding. Two for texas, but I don’t see them banning guns anyways.
      It doesn’t matter if obama thinks it is legal, I think it is legal to shoot tyrants, and guess who wont be around to hear the ruling on who was right.

  • http://genelalor.com Gene Lalor

    Something Is Very Wrong in America

    When innocent people are dying in America, something is very wrong in
    our country.

    When defenseless human beings are being slaughtered and our
    politicians do nothing about it, something must be done to save the
    victims.

    When the fates of those defenseless individuals fail to cause
    Americans to rise up en masse and demonstrate and protest and demand
    the victims’ lives be protected, something is almost beyond repair in the United
    States of America.

    When a so-called reputable organization is able to financially
    benefit to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars in tax dollars to execute
    blameless babies, something is truly amuck.

    Obviously, I’m not referring here to the senseless, unprovoked
    murders in Newtown, CT nor to the atrocity in Aurora, CO nor to the mindless
    assassination attempt outside Tucson, AZ nor to Virginia Tech nor to any other
    gun violence committed by unstable, maniacal people who should have been in
    mental institutions rather than out on our streets able to perpetrate homicidal
    havoc.

    In 2010 there were an intolerable 358 deaths in America involving
    rifles and deaths involving the use of pistols totaled 6,009 including suicides.
    In 2011, the Planned Parenthood Federation of America performed 333,964
    abortions which works out to one execution every 94 seconds–more than 50 times
    the number killed by gunshot wounds.

    Yet, the nation’s politicians are in a state of near-hysteria over
    curbing guns and continue to fund PPFoA to subsidize its program of
    genocide.

    What’s wrong with that picture? Everything!

    Based on its 2011-2012 report, (which never once mentions its
    principal nefarious activity, abortion), the PPFoA outdid themselves by
    performing some 4,500 more abortions than they did the year before, a real
    bloody feather in their corporate caps thanks in large part to $542 million . .
    .

    (Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=29521.)

  • yy4u2

    The streets will flow with blood of tyrants n good men again to refresh the tree of liberty.

  • slackwarerobert

    Well got my first non answer today. Ask rep what gun will not be on the banned list that will work on a tyrant hiding in an armored limo that can take a meteor strike, and how do I deal with the DC police if they obstruct me exercising the right to ask tyrant to leave.

    Nothing but BS bills that were defeated in previous congresses.

    Does anyone know how to contact your SCOTUS? I can’t find anyway to contact them so I can find out if I can just shoot 5 or do I have to shoot all 9 to exercise my rights correctly. I don’t want to get in trouble by doing it wrong. I always assumed it was simply shoot the tyrant, till they ruled I had to tell them I am not talking to them or I am not remaining silent correctly, I can find no case law on 5/4 tyranny either.

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