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“No one person has the total truth so it’s very possible that they have an angle from which you can benefit.”

Dear Robert108. This quote is from the article you linked. Please keep this in mind when debating issues with others. Your consideration in the matter will be appreciated by all.

e man: Nice agendized cherry-pick, but I prefer this one:

It’s been said that a man who stands on principle is bound to face personal attack.

Despite your constant lies to the contrary, I do consider all points of view(even your consistently ignorant ones), then I reject them and make logical/factual counterarguments.
I would appreciate if you actually knew something before you wrote it, but doubt that will ever happen.
Still, it’s good mental exercise for me when I get so much untruth to refute.  Keeps me in shape.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

I do consider all points of view, then I reject them

I would like to think you are more reasonable than that.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“Glory is not a conceit. It is not a decoration for valor. Glory belongs to the act of being constant to something greater than yourself, to a cause, to your principles, to the people on whom you rely, and who rely on you in return.”
Senator John McCain, Faith of Our fathers

sounds suspiciously like, “I give them a fair trial and then I hang them.”

I would like to think you are more reasonable than that.

I was refuting the lie that I didn’t pay any attention to other points of view.  Doesn’t it make sense to reject points of view that I know are untrue?
I never figured you for a cheap-shot artist, pp.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

It’s been said that a man who stands on principle is bound to face personal attack.
robert108 on June 19, 2008 at 08:44 pm

Yes. Monolithic persons do face attack. Personal attack too, as do persons that change their position frquently.
My ancient ancestors said: ‘Ta panta rhee.’ Meaning ‘everything is fluid’. Principles that made sense once, must be reevaluated and adjusted in the face of new realities.
Principles are like rivers. You cannot contain them with dikes and levies for too long.

Principles that made sense once, must be reevaluated and adjusted in the face of new realities.

You have “principles” confused with “opinions” or “theories”, troll.  Principles never change, because they represent the truth, and truth offends the liars and propagandists, so they attack the man of principle.
Look up the word; educate yourself.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

Principles never change, because they represent the truth, and truth offends the liars and propagandists, so they attack the man of principle.
Look up the word; educate yourself.

No principles represent what you belief to be truth.  Unless you are willing to admit that my principles are true?  Principles can change when you get more information.  It should never be shameful to admit you were wrong.  Principles should not change for political expediency.

truth offends the liars and propagandists, so they attack the man of principle.

Reasonable people may disagree on what ‘truth’ is without being liars or propagandists, and challenging someone’s principles is not the same thing as attacking the author of them.

principles never change

It was once a truth and a principle that the Earth was the center of the universe.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“Glory is not a conceit. It is not a decoration for valor. Glory belongs to the act of being constant to something greater than yourself, to a cause, to your principles, to the people on whom you rely, and who rely on you in return.”
Senator John McCain, Faith of Our fathers

No principles represent what you belief to be truth.

Principles represent reality, not what you believe.  That’s “feeling”, and your confusion of that with principle is typical of the leftie mind.

Principles can change when you get more information.

Nope.  Your ability to correctly perceive a principle changes when you get more information about it, until you know what the principle is, then you have the opportunity to put it into action.  Knowledge is the key, not “feelings” or “belief”.
You can be manipulated through belief, and the moral relativity practiced by lefties is a good example.  Knowledge, on the other hand, is strong.  Once you have knowledge, the purveyors of ignorance can kill you, beat you down with personal attacks, but that won’t change what you know.
Pol Pot executed anyone wearing glasses, because he knew if they had access to the knowledge in books, they couldn’t be sold his lies and propaganda.

Principles should not change for political expediency.

If they change, then you really didn’t know they were principles; you just used them to gain advantage over others through manipulation.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

It was once a truth and a principle that the Earth was the center of the universe.

That was neither true, nor was it a principle.  It was a belief used by the established religion to control the people.  Once again, knowledge possessed by individuals can’t be used for the purposes of manipulation.  On the other hand, beliefs are the prime source of manipulation, since they are mass phenomena.
Just another reason totalitarians can’t allow divergence of opinion.  They tend to punish it with death and/or imprisonment, which generally includes real torture.  They aren’t interested in information; they are simply trying to erase knowledge.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

Principles should not change for political expediency.

On this we agree! Tactics may change because of circumstance, but the underlying principles do not.

The changing circumstances revealed that, in this area at least, Obama is unprincipled.

Trolls. It’s what’s for breakfast!
And then I eat their lunch.

in this area

Public campaign financing. It’s getting late. I thought this was a continuation of the discussion of Obama’s principles (or lack thereof!)

Trolls. It’s what’s for breakfast!
And then I eat their lunch.

It may not have been true… but it was most certainly a principle.

Men believed it as a principle; acted on it as a principle; and fought for it as a principle.

Until facts proved otherwise.

Much like the principle that market economies work best with no government regulation, until facts prove otherwise.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“Glory is not a conceit. It is not a decoration for valor. Glory belongs to the act of being constant to something greater than yourself, to a cause, to your principles, to the people on whom you rely, and who rely on you in return.”
Senator John McCain, Faith of Our fathers

Men believed it as a principle; acted on it as a principle; and fought for it as a principle.

That’s irrelevant; it didn’t describe the true principle behind the structure of the solar system.
Thanks for a great example of how belief can be used to manipulate people, where knowledge(what we know now) can’t be used for that purpose.  Since the knowledge is in agreement with the real principle, no deception is necessary or possible.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

Much like the principle that market economies work best with no government regulation, until facts prove otherwise.

Wrong.  Beyond the minimum required for the doing of business(dependable money, enforcement of contracts, and a few more), any govt intrusion only damages the ability of markets to respond and yield the maximum prosperity.
You are the only one who is using the phrase “no govt regulation”. Perfection is only necessary in the implementation of Marxism.  In the free enterprise system, the less govt interference, the better it works, until you get to the minimum necessary for doing business.  It’s not anarchy, you know.
Past that minimum point, unnecessary regulation simply skims off the top to enrich the govt, while those who produce get less.
You should read up on this, pp.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.