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I’m afraid that your sample size may be too small. You are guilty of at least four of these.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Oh, sorry. Here’s some more. You commit the following fallacies in this post: Biased sample, cherry picking, fallacy of composition, faulty generalization, hasty generalization, misleading vividness, overwhelming exception…

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Get rid of all those problems and the only thing your post has going for it is…

uh…

em…

That you advocate spending tax money on corralling the homeless?

(Psst. Randy. I don’t think that’s popular around here.)

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Rodney: Ignore Sparkie! He probably got up on the wrong side of his rubber room this AM!

Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Proof,

You mean sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle ever wakes up on the right side of his rubber room or ever has anything pertinent and arguably intelligent to say?

Who knew!

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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Been to San Francisco once and had my pocket picked. While on a crowded cable car no less. Been to New York, Chicago, San Diego, Phoenix, Miami, Tampa, many more. plus some overseas capitals in Eastern Europe. Never had that problem. When I tried chasing the guy and lost him in a crowd. The police comment was, “Damn, ain’t that a kick.” So I just walked away, did not have the temperment to talk with them at that time. San Fran does bite ass in my opinion.

If ignorance is bliss, then I know why everyone is smiling....RichNJ

Light travels faster than sound. That’s why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.....Larry the CableGuy

I would rather be ruled by people represented by the first 100 names in the Boston phone book than by the faculty of Harvard. .....William F. Buckley

richNJ,

Don’t tell sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle, it would harsh his private reality.

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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

I have no idea whether or not this is true, but years ago I had heard that S.F. had passed a, (possibly several,) ordinance(s) designed with the intent to protect homeless. The consequence was a surge in the vagrant population as they flocked to the city. If in fact what I heard is true this is more proof supportting the rule of unintended consequences.

"we should select our leaders on principle first, electability second.”

A young man whose wisdom far exceeds his years

I’m not sticking up for SanFran. I’m sticking up for respectable arguments.

RichNJ has the same problems as you. Only an ass will generalize from a case or two to a whole city.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle now says:

I’m not sticking up for SanFran.

I think we ought to dump him starkers in the Mission and see what he has to say (if anything) afterwards.

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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Sparkie, Sparkie, Sparkie. Right away to the name calling. Did I make any disparaging remarks about you or the people of San Fran. I was frustrated with the lack of response by the police but I did not go to name calling the people of San Fran. Only the general feeling one gets from being ripped off.
Since you brought up the subject, allow me to expand a little. While in San Fran I did find the people somewhat pleasant. My wife thought they liked to talk down to you if they knew you were out of towners. But overall the time spent was nice because of the architecture and scenery. I found the people in the towns outside of San Fran a little nicer. But that is more of a subjective like or dislike.
I would place the people of New Orleans, much higher in friendliness than the people of San Fran. Just my opinion though. Each person has their own take on things like this.

If ignorance is bliss, then I know why everyone is smiling....RichNJ

Light travels faster than sound. That’s why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.....Larry the CableGuy

I would rather be ruled by people represented by the first 100 names in the Boston phone book than by the faculty of Harvard. .....William F. Buckley

Ya know, not everything needs to be handled statistically, and this is especially true in matters of criminal justice. 

More or less, when you have a woman in a confrontation with a larger man, you ordinarily have to assume that the one who provoked the confrontation was the man.  The fact that the “Transit Police” apparently couldn’t figure this out does indicate, as does San Fran’s approach towards illegal immigrants, that this city does indeed “suck” in matters of criminal justice.

RichNJ

Right away to the name calling.

Notice that Proof and Randy were namecalling before me. Single me out, though, its easy and helps your side, tart.

I did not go to name calling the people of San Fran

Oh really, what’s this? It reads:

San Fran does bite ass…

Give me a break.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Bike Bubba reveals he has no idea how a normal inference is supposed to work.

Thanks. Duly noted.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

sparkeless-arse-fuckin-buckle,

Have you ever been to San Francisco?  If so, when?  And did you ever get out of the tourist areas?

Well?

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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

We have two cases, which could be the same cop for all you guys know, from a force of over 2000. LESS THAN .001% represented. And you are making generalizations about how they conduct themselves. That shit wouldn’t fool a 2nd grader.

Pile in here and defend it though. I can almost smell the mental toast burning from here.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Rodney Grapeshot
I have been to San Fran numerous times. The most recent was the summer of 2000. I have a friend who is an architect that lives just south of the panhandle of the park. Since then I have traveled to W. Marin county, Stinson Beach and Point Reyes area… as well as to LA on at least three occasions, the most recent being June 2007. I will probably head out there again sometime soon, but I may fly into whatever airport I can find up north, as I have a friend who runs a chainsaw for the state up in the Eureka area. He had a kid I have yet to see.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

RodneyKing

You mean sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle ever… has anything pertinent and arguably intelligent to say?

Did you skip stat class in high school? College?

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle hasn’t been to San Francisco since 2000.

sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle confuses San Francisco Transit Police with San Francisco Police (not the same forces)

sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle insists on a statistical treatment of an anecdote, where NO STATISTICS were introduced.

sparkless-arse-fucking-buckle (by his own admission) has not been out of the tourist and well to do areas of San Francisco.

sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle on this issue, as in so many others here, doesn’t know his fuckin-arse (no doubt what he feels qualifies him as an “expert” on San Francisco) from his elbow.

sparless-arse-fuckin-buckle should walk from Market to the Mission some night and then offer an informed opinion (for possibly the first time in his life).

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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Yeah, Sparkie, I’m going to take logic teaching from a guy whose typical rhetorical tactic is to lead off with an ad hominem attack.  Sorry, fella, doesn’t work that way.  You’ve made your reputation, now you can live with it.

Besides, there’s not too much complex or even debateable in my inference--at least among sane people.  An officer who assumes that a small woman is picking fights with large men calls into question not only his own competence, but also the training and worldview of his department.

Sadly, the evidence out of San Fran is that the worldview of those running things cannot process a basic, common sense argument. From the refusal to deport illegal immigrants to the refusal to tell parents they ought not bring children to the Fulsome Street Fair (and the refusal to enforce public indecency laws there as well), San Fran has thrown basic decency and common sense into a well.

Yeah, Sparkie, I’m going to take logic teaching from a guy whose typical rhetorical tactic is to lead off with an ad hominem attack.  Sorry, fella, doesn’t work that way.  You’ve made your reputation, now you can live with it.

Besides, there’s not too much complex or even debateable in my inference--at least among sane people.  An officer who assumes that a small woman is picking fights with large men calls into question not only his own competence, but also the training and worldview of his department.

Sadly, the evidence out of San Fran is that the worldview of those running things cannot process a basic, common sense argument. From the refusal to deport illegal immigrants to the refusal to tell parents they ought not bring children to the Fulsome Street Fair (and the refusal to enforce public indecency laws there as well), San Fran has thrown basic decency and common sense into a well.

Sparkie, wasn’t the hot topic yesterday “opinion” articles? So, pleased to explain why all of those who think SanFran sucks ass (myself included) in your eyes have no right to say so?

I’m not sticking up for SanFran. I’m sticking up for respectable arguments.

How so? The article stated that the writer doesn’t like SanFran, and the writer was giving one (of many) reasons to dislike that city.

And this goes out to everyone: The whole ‘name calling’ issue, who cares - shut up. If that’s the best you can do, then just shut the hell up. When someone calls me a name, I ignore it. Now this is advice I would usually give to a child, but it seems to fit here as well.

Notice that Proof and Randy were namecalling before me.

RichNJ has the same problems as you. Only an ass will generalize from a case or two to a whole city.

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http://www.zombietime.com/nakba-60/

Aww Hell just go to:
http://www.zombietime.com/

Sparkie, you see how I summed it all up in one post. Give it a try. Or are you just trying to pad your numbers, if so. That’s pretty sad.

"Republicans believe every day is July 4th. Democrats believe every day is April 15th.” ~ R. Reagan

Rodney et al:-

Sparkie, you see how I summed it all up in one post. Give it a try.

Thanks for the invite.

Sparkie, wasn’t the hot topic yesterday “opinion” articles?

Yes, I can tell by your tone, you didn’t like my position?

So, pleased to explain why all of those who think SanFran sucks ass (myself included) in your eyes have no right to say so?

Nice strawman. I said the argument sucked. If Rodney wants to write an opinion piece, that’s fine. If the inferential moves and sample sizes are pathetically low, whether they are explicitly referred to as data or not (c.f. R.Graves, “sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle insists on a statistical treatment of an anecdote, where NO STATISTICS were introduced."), I am going to tell him his arguments sucks and exactly why I think it sucks.

The article stated that the writer doesn’t like SanFran, and the writer was giving one (of many) reasons to dislike that city.

I see you got the point, did you appreciate how fallacious it is to generalize to an entire city from an incident or two?

And this goes out to everyone: The whole ‘name calling’ issue, who cares - shut up. If that’s the best you can do, then just shut the hell up.

So now Zakk is attacking Graves post (e.g. San Fran “bites ass") right after he got done attacking me for attacking it.

When someone calls me a name, I ignore it. Now this is advice I would usually give to a child, but it seems to fit here as well.

Notice that Proof and Randy were namecalling before me.

They did it first.

Zakk, you take that out of context. RichNJ claimed that I only come out calling names.

Sparkie, Sparkie, Sparkie. Right away to the name calling.

My first three comments (c.f. 1,2,3) contain no namecalling. Compare those to the first comments by Proof-the-DOof and Randy Grapeshot. In fact, the whole point of this post was namecalling. Randy Grapeshot invites y’all in here to chime in about how San Fran “sucks ass”. Everyone, without exception, besides myself has agreed. I will cite RichNJ since he was accusing me of namecalling.

San Fran does bite ass…

And you all admonish me for namecalling. Character assassination in the face of the fact that you might have to think a little harder in you want your namecalling posts to have any real bite. Poor victims! Hypocrites. You employ liberal tactics.

Have you ever been to San Francisco?  If so, when?  And did you ever get out of the tourist areas?

As if traveling to San Francisco gives one the ability to run an inference from one case to a city of a million or more.

sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle confuses San Francisco Transit Police with San Francisco Police (not the same forces)

Randy confuses sensical arguments with emotional, creampuff arguments that rely on the rage felt about a single incident to condemn a much larger group.

sparkless-arse-fucking-buckle (by his own admission) has not been out of the tourist and well to do areas of San Francisco.

I’ve walked to the zoo. Again, I don’t get how that relates to inference. Randy had his little name calling party rained on. But it has political valence. Everyone chime in.

SO effing classic. Carry on gentlemen. In your little namecalling enterprises. Just, bring an argument that you can run.

Its no wonder that Randy wants all the lower classes, the homeless banished from the public sphere. I just want to know, where would you put them?

Example:
Philly: 400+ homicides a year in a city of 1.5M people. Get it?

compare to

San Fran: One of my friends got her hair grabbed by a bum and the cop standing nearby was an idiot.

I think you just have a problem with cities in general. They all have some bums and pathetic cops.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

I’ve posted article after article about San Francisco’s difficulty with grasping reality.

Right now one of the released “juvenile” drug dealers they prtected under their sanctuary city policy is a suspect in a triple murder - a father and his two sons.

You’re right, Sparkie, this one is just an isolated incident. Ptui. (that’s as close as I can come to a spitting-in-disgust sound).

The future ain’t what it used to be.....

Pilgrim.
Ptui to me? What’s your favorite city? I’ll come up with three or four incidents and call it a shit hole.
Then I’ll do you one better and use some statistics to prove its a shithole.
So name your city.

This is just boiler plate, highschool tactics. He did X. He ‘bites ass’.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle,

Are you suffering under the delusion that I (or anyone other than the SAB sinsister set) give a bucket of warm spit for your opinion?  That we find your mewling about statistics in an anecdotal opinion piece to be anything other than a pathetic attempt to change the subject?

If this were a mailing list you’d have been plonked ages ago as a waste of bandwidth.  You are an exretia flinging simian blight upon human intelligence and discourse.

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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

You guys don’t get it do you? Arbuckle just loves to tweak everyone’s noses with his pseudo-moral-relativism. He comes at you with his Philosophy 101 bullcrap and savors your responses.

It’s his ‘thang’.....

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

Graves.
Once when I was Spain I almost got pickpocketed.
Ergo, Eurasia ‘bites ass’.

Learn how to make a point.

You are quite adept at slinging invectives (e.g. “exretia flinging simian blight upon human intelligence and discourse"), perhaps you put some effort into your inferences as well. But if you are confident in your ability to run interference, post whatever you want and then just namecall.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

pparets
I can assume your moral strictures and argue on here if you want. Don’t think I can’t tear things down from the inside as well.
Its just that the amount of assumptions you children accept without question from on high, the fed, and whoever else moves your nationalist passions… are not the kind I assume. You fault me for mine without any self-reflexive capabilities to crit your own. At least I am able to know I’m often wrong.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle,

Go find someone who cares what you think, if you can.

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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Randy confuses sensical arguments with emotional, creampuff arguments that rely on the rage felt about a single incident to condemn a much larger group.

Have fun fluffing along with your compatriots-in-emo-fluff-lib-argumentation. Taking your argument forms from DailyKOS I see.

DailyKOS/Rodney Graves Argument form 1:
a) Insert isolated incident in geographic location X here.
b) Condemn local X as ‘biting ass’.
c) Wait for emotional, not rational, sheeple to chime in.
d) Squelch dissent with namecalling.

Carry on Randy ‘Soros’ Grapeshot.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Yes, Sparkless, no sane person would EVER suggest that mores are a wee bit different in San Fran than in, say, Peoria.  Who would ever suggest that that nation’s capital for homosexuality, antiwar activism, free love, and public lewdness was any different than Indianapolis?

Sparkless, what color IS the sun on your planet?  It must be pretty, given the illogic you spew here.

arbuckle… I do love the psycho-babble.

Among my few modest self-reflexive capabilities is the realization that I don’t need to talk down to others - using philosophical, sociological and psychological jargon - in order to impress them or dispute with their findings.  Nor do I need to denegrate them for dismissing or not grasping my etheral concepts.

I don’t need to validate myself in that manner.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

Who would ever suggest that that nation’s capital for homosexuality, antiwar activism, free love, and public lewdness was any different than Indianapolis?

Oh, but posting pics of public lewdness in Israel when it serves your political ends is just fine. Hypocrites.

Again, this just lays bare that all of you small govvy conservatives have been hoodwinked into wanting your morality dictated by the fed.

Go sit with Christian communists. Its what you are, “underneath it all”.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

pparets
‘inference’ is not jargon. ‘sample size’ is not jargon. if it hurts your emo creampuff arguments, then it is. if it can be used to combat your opponents, then it isn’t.

THAT’S RELATIVISM. Give me a break.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Oh, but posting pics of public lewdness in Israel when it serves your political ends is just fine. Hypocrites.

Sparkie: Change the filter in your gas mask and loosen the strap! It’s cutting off oxygen to your brain!
Public lewdness??? Women in halter tops, no more or less revealing than bikini tops are lewd?
Old man! You’d better go yell at the kids to stay off your lawn! You’ve been out of the game WAY too long, grandpa! Keep your woman in a burka, do ya?

Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Proof,

Attempting to communicate with sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle is like wrestling with a pig.

Let sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle stew in his stye instead.

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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Actually, the Israel thing is a dodge, as the comparison that we’re making here is San Francisco to the rest of THIS country, not San Fran to Tel Aviv.  Although portion’s of Tel Aviv’s Love Parade are certainly lewd (though not the picture Rob presented), it has no bearing on this discussion.

Which is why I think that pparets was being needlessly complimentary when he suggested that Sparkless was working from Phil. 101.  Sparkless can pretend to speak the language, but when it comes to applying basic lessons in informal logic, he’s totally without a clue.

informal logic?

DailyKOS/Rodney Graves Argument form 1:
a) Insert isolated incident in geographic location X here.
b) Condemn local X as ‘biting ass’.
c) Wait for emotional, not rational, sheeple to chime in.
d) Squelch dissent with namecalling.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

I change my avatar in support of the people of San Franciso

If ignorance is bliss, then I know why everyone is smiling....RichNJ

Light travels faster than sound. That’s why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.....Larry the CableGuy

I would rather be ruled by people represented by the first 100 names in the Boston phone book than by the faculty of Harvard. .....William F. Buckley

Hey, it didn’t change. Now I look like a dweeb.......Here is the image i wanted.

If ignorance is bliss, then I know why everyone is smiling....RichNJ

Light travels faster than sound. That’s why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.....Larry the CableGuy

I would rather be ruled by people represented by the first 100 names in the Boston phone book than by the faculty of Harvard. .....William F. Buckley

Proof, BikeBubba, and richNJ,

At this point it seems clear that the proper response to sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle is:

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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”