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Good find. To bad slavery is so inappropriate and rationalized the centralist North from doing what it did. In actuality, very few northern states actually fought against slavery, save a few.

Funny, none of my ancestors held slaves or supported slavery, and yet they all fought for the Confederacy. Funny old world, ain’t it?

Did you go to the “Who is Cimpy McHitler” post? Mike googled it for us. I suggested getting it picked up as a tagger line, have all over the East Coast by 4th July. You got the in, hook us up.

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To bad slavery is so inappropriate and rationalized the centralist North from doing what it did. In actuality, very few northern states actually fought against slavery, save a few.

What a ‘tard.  It was a constant struggle for the South in the political world up to the civil war to keep parity in the Senate with the anti-slavery states.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Did you go to the “Who is Cimpy McHitler” post?

Yea. My misspelling is infamous now. Goddamn ‘H’. Hmmmm. Maybe a mural production piece. ‘Who IS Cimpy McHitler?’
On another note. I don’t like it when centralists are able to extend their reach in the name of morality. Slavery sucks like that. Also, if you haven’t yet, check out the film, ‘Goodbye Uncle Tom’. It is insane. Very bizarre.

What a ‘tard.

Whistler, like I said the north had power and control motivations and pitched it is a moral, slave related thing. very few states had actual abolitionist intentions. how does pointing that out make me a ‘tard’? for the record, i am 100% yankee - can’t help it… born and raised. i just ain’t into grits y’all. however, i think i was raised far enough from the urban centers of the north not to be considered a stupid yankee. us vermonters are goddamned tough. speaking of old wars, the US owes us a big one for running the british ragged back in the day.

A massive British invasion from Canada chased the Continental Army from Mount Independence south to Hubbardton. The British strategy was to continue to New York and divide New England from the rest of the colonies.

The advancing British were seasoned Regulars. The Green Mountain Boys stayed behind to slow down the Redcoats so that the main force could retreat.

On a grassy hill, the scrappy New Englanders made their stand. While the British held the field and technically won the battle, their losses were so heavy that they gave up chasing the Americans to tend to their casualties.

The Battle of Hubbardton marked the beginning of the end for Burgoyne and his great plan.

On August 16 he suffered a stunning blow at the Battle of Bennington. Soon after, Burgoyne wrote about the people of Vermont as “the most active and most rebellious race on the continent” and that they were “hanging like a gathering storm” on his left.

that’s right. we put the fear into those brits and we weren’t even a state yet. burgoyne floated down lake champlain to mount independance, came into Vermont and got SPANKED. Back then the last thing I would want to do is go through VT. He should have gone through upper NY instead. Ah, hindsight.

The Champlain campaign showed a decided lack of tactical and strategic capability on the part of Burgoyne’s General Staff. He laid out a good campaign, they failed to execute. Add the Green Mountain Crew hacking their lines of communication and supply at will, and, well, it is history.

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spark, I meant this one.

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I think that quote of Burgoyne’s is incorrectly attributed here. I’m pretty sure he penned it as he was floating down the Champlain out of Canada - before those battles. i think it’s its famous not for lamenting the loss, but in a bizarre foreshadowing manner. odd because he seemed to sense the challenge Vermont posed.
i can’t imagine it back then. a tactical nightmare for the British with a large force in rugged country fighting the locals. there was still plenty of injuns around then too… at least in Vermont.
Mt Independence is cool. Its about 40-45 min west of where I grew up. Along the lake there are natural clay deposits the indians used to make pottery and these old earthen kilns that date back to 10,000 BC at least. there are cliffs along the lake and in the sand along the shore there are arrowheads and musketballs - as the lake erodes the shore they get exposed. its one of those points that was indian, french, british, french, indian, british, vermont, british, us, and so on. the point infront of mt independance changed hands countless times. its also the only place in vermont where one can find rattlesnakes.

No doubt that Burgoyne had misgivings, he had been badly handled in the previous season of fighting, and was saddled with less than aggressive, competent officers at Staff and Field command levels. He had little confidence in his designated allies/subordinates, and was less than popular at Court.

And look at what we do today. A vain attempt to micro-manage down to the squad level. Insanity.

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A vain attempt to micro-manage down to the squad level. Insanity.

Too much technology. Instead of being used to decentralize and communicate (a boon for rural, low earning areas), its used to micromanage and justify centralized power, be it national or within the military. I think technology should be used for the opposite rationalization.