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DIdn’t read this?

The Republicans say we who are upset about being laid off, foreclosed on, losing our lifelong savings and losing buing power are a bunch of whiners.

The Republicans say that we are not in a recession. We’re not. The conservatives among the Republicans say that people shouldn’t be bailed out of making bad decisions on home buying. They shouldn’t. People get laid off all the time. Jobs end as they become irrelevant, or the company can’t afford them, or as the company goes under. Our job losses are in the auto industry (which is closing the SUV plants that produce 10 mpg vehicles) and the banking industry (as those who gave bad loans crumple).

Americans have become, by and large, a group that expect government to step in and fix every problem that comes along in life. How is that not whiny?

These are meant to distract us from the real problem: which party is ruining our country! It is clear to me whom I want in the White House next January.

You want the party that IS ruining the economy. You bitch and moan about the Republicans saying were not in a recession, then plan to vote for the guy who says he’s happy with how expensive gas is.

Absolutely brilliant.

For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of my country.

Gramm was correct; ellinas knows nothing about economics.  This is just another igno-rant.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

Gramm was correct; ellinas knows nothing about economics.  This is just another igno-rant.
robert108 on July 26, 2008 at 12:45 pm

Of course Gramm being well versed in economics and being pro American joined UBS a foreign bank that has helped helped American citizens hide an estimated $18 billion in 19,000 accounts from the Internal Revenue Service thus contributing to the national debt and budget deficits.
Nice.

Kenny. If it will help you out I too am against the government bailing out people , banks, corporations etc.
The Repubs and conservatives preach the same as above but vote to differently. They, just like the Dems, speak from both sides of their mouths.

Gas prices aren’t at $4 a gallon. It’s an hallucination. Are you in a foreclosure? You’re in a dream, you’ll wake up in your house soon enough in a sweat. Lost your job? It’s still there, you just imagined that pink slip.

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” ~Theodore Roosevelt

The Repubs and conservatives preach the same as above but vote to differently.

Wrong; you lie about conservatives.

Gas prices aren’t at $4 a gallon.

By the way the Pelosi Congress acts, you would think that’s just fine with them; and it is.
People who live beyond their means experience bad consequences from doing that, but if the nanny Dems bail them out, they will just keep doing the same thing.
I learned something from watching “Fear Factor”:  A safety net encourages risky behavior.
Too bad you haven’t learned that lesson.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

...thus contributing to the national debt and budget deficits.

Wrong again, ignoramus!  the national debt and budget deficits are about excessive spending.  Duh.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

These are meant to distract us from the real problem: which party is ruining our country!

The party that currently is control of Congress, of course.  That’s the no-more-drilling Dems in case you don’t know.  As far as distraction are concerned that is all you post.

You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

money deposited in foreign accounts and unavailable for taxation does indeed contribute to the national debt.

If every taxpayer in the U.S. could hide their income, investment, or profit from the IRS, the national debt would become unsupportable in a matter of weeks, if not days.

Budget deficits, on the other hand, are due to spending more than was authorized in the original budget, be it domestic, commercial or governmental.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

If every taxpayer in the U.S. could hide their income, investment, or profit from the IRS, the national debt would become unsupportable in a matter of weeks, if not days.

“If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.” We don’t tax our way to prosperity; it’s always the spending.  Calculate the impact of the so-called “War on Poverty” on the national debt, and you will see what I mean.
The govt needs to live within its means, just like the rest of us.
Besides, I wouldn’t buy your leftie buddie’s smear of Gramm, if I were you.  It’s irrelevant to what he said, and is just another nasty lie from the usual source.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

It’s the old leftie redefinition game.  Legal, tax-free investments become “hiding income”, since as you know, all lefties think all money is owned by the State.  Consult Karl Marx on that.
Do you hate our free enterprise system, pp?

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

Some conservative extremists may talk about how people weren’t at times scammed into a high-risk mortgage, yet just play the blame game saying that they shouldn’t have a house if they can’t afford it. The American dream is only for certain people.

Some believe that it’s bad a help people exposing their hypocrisy when they say their Christian, when Jesus talked about the poor more than most other things in the Bible.

They may blame all these problems on the Democratic Congress that came into power in 2006, a time when everything was already going to shit. They forget that they aren’t able to get enough votes, filibusters and an unwillingness for compromise, a trait of dogmatic neoconservatism.

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” ~Theodore Roosevelt

Some conservative extremists…

Conservatives aren’t “extremists”.  Full disclosure is provided when people sign the papers on a home loan; they knew they couldn’t afford the loan, so it is their greed that got them into trouble.  The American Dream is for people who are honest.
It is the “affirmative action” home financing laws that are responsible here; you can’t mandate loans for people who can’t afford them without screwing up the market.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

I’m sorry you misunderstood me, robert. Nowhere did I suggest that people not be allowed to legally shelter thier money from taxation, nor did I comment on ellinas’ opinion of Mr. Gramm.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

It’s the old leftie redefinition game.  Legal, tax-free investments become “hiding income”, since as you know, all lefties think all money is owned by the State.  Consult Karl Marx on that.
robert108 on July 26, 2008 at 01:21 pm

If it is as you are saying, UBS would tell the investigators to go pound rocks.
However miracle of miracles. UBS rolled over and is assisting in the identification of the cheaters. Plus they have promised not to do it again, and not help US citizens skirt the laws of the USA.
Of everything you wrote on the subject I noticed you havent touched the core of my post. You just rant about irelevant things.
Oh! one more thing: His (P. Gramm’s) employment by UBS, a company that recently warned some of its executives to avoid entering the United States for fear of criminal prosecution, demands fresh scrutiny.

I’m sorry you misunderstood me, robert. Nowhere did I suggest that people not be allowed to legally shelter thier money from taxation, nor did I
comment on ellinas’ opinion of Mr. Gramm.

I thought you were supporting your little leftie buddy.  If I’m wrong about that, I apologize.

e: Your attempted smear of Mr Gramm has nothing to do with the fact that he told the truth about the MSM lying about the economy, and about people believing those lies.  As usual, you can’t refute him, so you try to smear him, a typical leftie tactic.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

Of everything you wrote on the subject I noticed you havent touched the core of my post. You just rant about irelevant things.

The “core” of your post was that Phil Gramm wasn’t telling the truth; I have stayed relevant, while you have strayed off into trying to smear him personally with stuff that doesn’t bear on the truthfulness of his statement.  You’re wrong, as usual.  Although your buddy, pp, insists that “Say Anything” means that nothing is irrelevant or off topic, so make a decision here.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

BTW, the “core” of your post was a misstatement of what Mr Gramm actually said, but that’s no surprise with you.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

You missed the point. Again.

I busted your lies and off topic bullshit, as usual, and you are trying to lie your way out of it, again as usual.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

Kenny. If it will help you out I too am against the government bailing out people , banks, corporations etc.
The Repubs and conservatives preach the same as above but vote to differently. They, just like the Dems, speak from both sides of their mouths.

OK, but you still wanna put the people in power who promise to dick us...and you defend that because some republicans are hypocrites.

Nonsense all around.

For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of my country.

“We have heard of the impious doctrine in the old world that the people were made for kings, not kings for the people. Is the same doctrine to be revived in the new, in another shape, that the solid happiness of the people is to be sacrificed to the views of political institutions of different form? It is too early for politicians to presume on our forgetting that the public good, the real welfare of the great body of the people is the supreme object to be pursued; and that no form of government whatever, has any other value, than as it may be fitted for the attainment of this object.” ~James Madison - The Federalist Papers (1788)

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” ~Theodore Roosevelt

“We have heard of the impious doctrine in the old world that the people were made for kings, not kings for the people. Is the same doctrine to be revived in the new, in another shape, that the solid happiness of the people is to be sacrificed to the views of political institutions of different form? It is too early for politicians to presume on our forgetting that the public good, the real welfare of the great body of the people is the supreme object to be pursued; and that no form of government whatever, has any other value, than as it may be fitted for the attainment of this object.” ~James Madison - The Federalist Papers (1788)

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” ~Theodore Roosevelt

"We have heard of the impious doctrine in the old world that the people were made for kings, not kings for the people. Is the same doctrine to be revived in the new, in another shape, that the solid happiness of the people is to be sacrificed to the views of political institutions of different form? It is too early for politicians to presume on our forgetting that the public good, the real welfare of the great body of the people is the supreme object to be pursued; and that no form of government whatever, has any other value, than as it may be fitted for the attainment of this object.” ~James Madison - The Federalist Papers (1788)

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” ~Theodore Roosevelt

OK, but you still wanna put the people in power who promise to dick us...and you defend that because some republicans are hypocrites.
Nonsense all around.
Kenny on July 27, 2008 at 12:05 am

Look at it this way. P.Gramm is not only a registered foreign lobbyist (works for UBS as a vice chairman I think, and as a lobbyist) but until his famous speech about whining was McCain’s economic advisor and campaign co-chairman.
No matter which way you go you will get “dicked”.

Despite your multiple attempts to smear him, e, he told the truth.  That’s something you might try every now and then.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

Phil Gramm, stenographer of the Enron loophole , deregulator of banks, sponsor of Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000.

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act in 1999, which modernized Depression-era laws separating banking, insurance and brokerage activities. Between 1995 and 2000 Gramm, who was the chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs, received $1,000,914 in campaign contributions from the Securities & Investment industry.

Woof

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act in 1999, which modernized Depression-era laws separating banking, insurance and brokerage activities. Between 1995 and 2000 Gramm, who was the chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs, received $1,000,914 in campaign contributions from the Securities & Investment industry.

Thanks. Nuff said. I take it McCain has abandoned the “I dont take $ from lobbyists” meme?

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

I take it McCain has abandoned the “I dont take $ from lobbyists” meme?

Excuse me, you were saying?

What Gramm said is still true.  Typical leftie smear tactics to try to obscure an inconvenient truth about how you’re lying about the economy, and the negative effects of your lying.  Gramm nailed you, and now you’re squealing.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

I find it interesting that not one of you leftie smear artists has spoken about the real tax dodgers: the Kennedys.  After Papa Joe made megabucks on criminal activities, he set up all his progeny with tax free trust funds, so that they can exhort Americans to pay more in taxes for their social engineering pyramid schemes, while actually contributing nothing themselves.
Hypocrisy? You bet.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

I have faith in the American people and will not stand for people smearing the American people in such a childish fashion. Many American’s are having to tighten their budget and slander them as “whiners” is unpatriotic and anyone who believes that we’re a ‘nation of whiners’ is free to leave this wonderful country, a country that they love to hate.

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” ~Theodore Roosevelt

UBS rolled over and is assisting in the identification of the cheaters. Plus they have promised not to do it again, and not help US citizens skirt the laws of the USA.
Oh! one more thing: His (P. Gramm’s) employer, UBS, is the company that recently warned some of its executives to avoid entering the United States for fear of criminal prosecution.

I find it interesting that not one of you leftie smear artists has spoken about the real tax dodgers: the Kennedys. 
robert108 on July 27, 2008 at 09:55 am

Another piss poor attempt at distraction.
I and others are not smearing him. He called us whiners thus availing himself for scrutiny. It does not look good for him.

nunez - Some conservative extremists may talk about how people weren’t at times scammed into a high-risk mortgage...

What does that mean? How does that work?

...yet just play the blame game saying that they shouldn’t have a house if they can’t afford it.

How is that a “blame game”? What are you talking about?

The American dream is only for certain people.

Sure. The ones who make it for themselves.

What? You think that you’re entitled to a house, significant other, 2 kids, and car? Get over yourself. You’re not that important and we don’t live in a fairy tale world. Grow up.

Now you’ll claim that I’m an “extremist” for recognizing reality.

Sure. The ones who make it for themselves.

You miss the point by leaps and bounds. American are entitled to the opportunity to achieve the American dream. This wonderful country is tarnished by people that say that we’re a ‘nation of whiners’ and expose the hypocrisy in their belief in the ability of American to create opportunity for all. By saying that 47 million Americans in poverty is something that is in their mind is undermining the principles that this country was founded upon.

Let these words, from Thomas Jefferson first inaugural address, resonant America’s founding principles in your mind. “Still one more thing, fellow-citizens--a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities.”

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” ~Theodore Roosevelt

Another piss poor attempt at distraction.
I and others are not smearing him. He called us whiners thus availing himself for scrutiny. It does not look good for him.

The constant complaining about a NONEXISTANT recession is whining. The problems we’re facing are of our own making. To put the home “crisis” into a medical analogy...those complaining are like those in a hospital complaining that shooting themselves in the foot hurts.

For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of my country.

Kenny.  His (P. Gramm’s) employer, UBS, is the company that recently warned some of its executives to avoid entering the United States for fear of criminal prosecution.

P.Gramm is not only a registered foreign lobbyist (works for UBS as a vice chairman I think, and as a lobbyist) but until his famous speech about whining was McCain’s economic advisor and campaign co-chairman.

Should this man be advising a presidential candidate on our economy?

This wonderful country is tarnished by people that say that we’re a ‘nation of whiners’ and expose the hypocrisy in their belief in the ability of American to create opportunity for all. By saying that 47 million Americans in poverty is something that is in their mind is undermining the principles that this country was founded upon.

Saying that someone is a whiner is hardly hypocritical to the belief of the ability of America to create opportunity for all. Just stringing lots of words together doesn’t make an unassailable point…

But what % of that 47 million are in true poverty?I probably fall in the poverty line from last year, but I had a car, computer with DSL, large TV, PS2, live in a rented house, etc. What group of “the poor” don’t have food to eat? America is the only nation in the world where you can be poor and fat. Anywhere else in the world, if you’re poor...you’re actually poor. You live in a shack. You have no clue where your next meal is coming from. You may not even have clothes. So the whole poverty schtick seems stupid when you realize that a poor American often has it better than a middle class European, and is on par with those considered rich in other countries. As Jefferson says, government much leave men to do their business. And that means if you make a bad choice...you gotta live with it.

For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of my country.

Should this man be advising a presidential candidate on our economy?

As long as he gives accurate information, yes.
I don’t think you should be advising anyone about economics, though.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

Kenny: Don’t believe the 47 million in poverty crap, either.  That’s just more leftie creative statistics.

Lefties lie; it’s all they have.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

P.Gramm is not only a registered foreign lobbyist (works for UBS as a vice chairman I think, and as a lobbyist)…

As long as he gives accurate information, yes.
I don’t think you should be advising anyone about economics, though.
robert108 on July 27, 2008 at 02:03 pm

Per Robert108 it is now ok to have foreign interests and registered foreign lobbyists advise our presidential candidates and presidents.

There were 36.5 million people in poverty in 2006, not statistically different from 2005. The number of people without health insurance coverage rose from 44.8 million (15.3 percent) in 2005 to 47 million (15.8 percent) in 2006.

census.gov

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” ~Theodore Roosevelt

Define “poverty” for me, would you?  Is it people going hungry?  Or is it people not able to afford their satellite television bills?

Because I have a hard time believing that 37 million people are going hungry in America.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Rob’s recently listened-to songs:

Nunez, I repeat. Last year I was “poor”.

Keep giving numbers and don’t address the point.

These people aren’t poor by any objective standard.

For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of my country.

Rob.  Correct.  There are numerous free lunch kitchens.  The “homeless” even know what is being served where and when.  I served several times.  Schools serve free breakfast and lunch and to the general population.  Schools now seem to be operated virtually year round. 

I, too would like to see one or two of these people who supposedly are “going hungry”

Communism is evil

Kenny: Don’t believe the 47 million in poverty crap, either.  That’s just more leftie creative statistics.

It’s a subjective scale really. By American standards, these people are poor. By world standards they’re amazingly well off.

For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of my country.

Kenny: It’s more than just comparative standards; it’s also creative counting.

BTW, since Gramm isn’t running for elective office, the reference to “voting” in the title of this thread is nonsensical.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

There were 36.5 million people in poverty in 2006, not statistically different from 2005. The number of people without health insurance coverage rose from 44.8 million (15.3 percent) in 2005 to 47 million (15.8 percent) in 2006.

How’s that leftie “War on Poverty” doing?  Not so effective, but very expensive, which is typical of leftie social engineering pyramid schemes.
How many of those you claim are “uninsured” choose to be that way?  How many are invaders?  Your numbers are a lie.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

He called us whiners…

Thanks for admitting that you’re a whiner.  I took no offense to his statement, because I’m not a whiner.
You also quoted him out of context, but that’s par for your deceptive course.
If you were a Republican trying to smear a Dem by association, you would be called for “McCarthyism”, e.
Hypocrite!
It’s no distraction talking about the Kennedy tax cheats, since you broached the subject by trying an off topic smear against Gramm.  Another inconvenient truth for you.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

From attacking the numbers to calling them a lie. From saying poverty isn’t real by attacking the definition to saying nobody in America goes hungry. From being ignorant of the government measure of poverty by how much money you make a year to ignoring the principles of this country and the values in the Bible. Willfully blinding oneself of poverty isn’t going to help this wonderful country to become an even better place to live.

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” ~Theodore Roosevelt

Here’s what Gramm really said(not e’s lying version)s”

“You’ve heard of mental depression; this is a mental recession,” Gramm, a former Texas senator, told the newspaper, adding that the presumptive Republican nominee will face an uphill battle fighting those perceptions.

“We have sort of become a nation of whiners,” he said. “You just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in ‘decline’ despite a major export boom that is the primary reason that growth continues in the economy.”

nunez: How’s the leftie “War on Poverty” working?

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

The poverty we do have(not the gross exaggerations by nunez) is due to govt interference in the economy, not the vitality of our system of “free people making free choices”.  If the govt hadn’t confiscated trillions from hard-working taxpayers to feed their fatcat “War on Poverty” boondoggle, we would be even more prosperous than we are today.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

Poverty in the USA is a myth perpetrated by leftist liberals like Nunez.  If you want to see poverty, Nunez, I suggest you go to parts of Africa and Asia.  Even there, poverty is self-imposed by dictatorial governments.

You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

Poverty in the USA is a myth

You’d be a good comedian.

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” ~Theodore Roosevelt

Don’t forget—we import a lot of the poverty that Mexico and other countries are exporting.

It’s happening in Europe as well.

This is huge.

...for great justice

Per Robert108 it is now ok to have foreign interests and registered foreign lobbyists advise our presidential candidates and presidents.

You liar!  Phil Gramm is not a foreigner; he is a US citizen.  He legally represents a number of interests, and your constant attempt at guilt by association smear is typical of you.  You misquote him, you try to smear him, and you can’t refute anything he said.  You are pathetic!

BTW, both the Clintons have actually taken foreign money; where were you on that, o self righteous one?

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

They’re not poor.
They have a truck!

Most of the world is lucky to have a bed
and lives on a couple of bucks a day.
Try that in the USA.
Don’t compare poverty in industrial first world nations to populations that hardly have a cash economy.

You liar!  Phil Gramm is not a foreigner; he is a US citizen.
robert108 on July 27, 2008 at 03:37 pm

Never once did I say that Phil Gramm is a foreigner.
He is lobbying the US government on behalf of foreign
interests (UBS being a Swiss bank) therefore he has to register as a foreign lobbyist or a lobbyist that is a US citizen but represents foreign interests therefore he works against US interests.

American are entitled to the
opportunity to achieve the American dream.

Wrong.  It’s “the pursuit of happiness”, not “entitled to happiness”.  If it’s any consolation, “entitlement” is big for you lefties.  It’s just not a concept that makes America strong.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

“We have heard of the impious doctrine in the old world that the people were made for kings, not kings for the people. Is the same doctrine to be revived in the new, in another shape, that the solid happiness of the people is to be sacrificed to the views of political institutions of different form? It is too early for politicians to presume on our forgetting that the public good, the real welfare of the great body of the people is the supreme object to be pursued; and that no form of government whatever, has any other value, than as it may be fitted for the attainment of this object.” ~James Madison - The Federalist Papers (1788)

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” ~Theodore Roosevelt

A crowd began lining up in the wee hours of Friday morning for a coveted spot inside the fences at the Remote Area Medical clinic. Some would wait days for the free service. Some would never get in.

Excuse me, you were saying?

A crowd began lining up in the wee hours of Friday morning for a coveted spot inside the fences at the Remote Area Medical clinic. Some would wait days for the free service. Some would never get in.

I can relate to this.

I did not have insurance before when i first was married, I was the only one working, paying bills, driving distances to work, ect.

These mobil clinics are outreaches from the hospital, normally staffed by interns / doctors in training under the supervision of one main doctor.

They have several of these in the Detroit Area I believe, one in Warren the other in Mount Clemens. They were open 1 day a week, and they would have a calendar that showed what location and when they woudl be there.

I have gotten there as early as 5:30am so I could be in line for 7am when they would open the door. Others would line up also, or get there later.

It was first come, first serve and they tried to reach as many people as possible. Most though were prescription refills, flu / colds, ect. There was no one I saw in line there that was life threatening, they would use the emergency room for that.

I beleive everyone there was there like they would for a regular doctors visit, but the clinic was free.

Later, as I got a better job, and moved up, I got insurance through my job and got my family a regular doctor.

From attacking the numbers to calling them a lie. From saying poverty isn’t real by attacking the definition to saying nobody in America goes hungry. From being ignorant of the government measure of poverty by how much money you make a year to ignoring the principles of this country and the values in the Bible. Willfully blinding oneself of poverty isn’t going to help this wonderful country to become an even better place to live.

So, you’re simply unable to counter the facts that I put forward? That REAL poverty doesn’t exist in the US? Coming from someone who is technically poor?

Don’t change the subject douchebag. I’m not attacking biblical values. I’m telling you that poverty in the US in unheard of. THIS is what a poor person looks like:

The real face of hunger.

See that? That’s bloody tragic is what that is. That’s a poor person. They have no food. They are starving to death. THAT is poverty. Not this bullshit we have in America listed as hunger.

You’re either too dishonest, or too stupid to address this, and instead insult everyone like a howler monkey throwing their fecesw when agitated.

For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of my country.