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He said the word “Damn”.  What’s the big fucking deal?

The big deal is the exteme anger from the pulpit and we don’t understand the word he used, it means to want to condemn someone to hell. It is a terrible curse and most especially from one promoting themselves as Christian.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Ah, Lestat! Christianity a bit outside of your experience? Damnation in a theological connotation goes beyond common cursing.
That’s the deal. Christian ministers are to be held to a higher standard than street punks when it comes to what comes out of their mouths.

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

The other BFD is that this kookburger is another “Reverend” whose endorsement Obama of the Bad Judgment has accepted.

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

The big deal is the exteme anger from the pulpit and we don’t understand the word he used, it means to want to condemn someone to hell.

He said “I’ll be damned”.  He is not damning somebody else.  He is saying if he doesn’t stand up for what is right that he will be damned.  He is making the point that tearing down a man based on a 30 second sound bite is wrong.

And what is wrong with righteous anger.  Do you think that Jesus was angry when he threw out the moneylenders?

You guys look like fools.

Well, I am not going to be dragged into a fight about this matter, and I refuse to explain Scripture to people that will only use it as a launch pad for fighting.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

He said “I’ll be damned”.

Do you think that Jesus was angry when he threw out the moneylenders?

The Bible says

Be ye angry, and sin not.

It is possible to be angry without resorting to common cursing or swearing!
If you have any Christian friends, perhaps one of them could explain it to you?

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

I refuse to explain Scripture to people that will only use it as a launch pad for fighting.

What a hypocrite, most of the stuff you write uses the bible as a launching pad.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

It is possible to be angry without resorting to common cursing or swearing!

…Well better a child than a disgusting, ugly, cunt with VD like you. I would love to meet you anywhere and we’ll see who is the man young lady! It is easy for you to hide here with a fake name, try facing a real man someday and you’ll get your girly ass kicked up between your shoulder blades.

Neiman on February 15, 2008 at 10:06 am

Maybe Neiman, if you have any Christian friends, perhaps one of them could explain it to you.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

You mistake Christians for people who profess to be Christian. 

You like your churches nice an quiet where the ministers will tell you that you are good people just the way you are so that you give them your tithes. 

You fear ministers are activists and outside your comfort zones.  “Comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.”

BTW, taking the Lords name in vain has nothing to do with cursing.  It is not about the casual usage of his name.  It is about swearing an oath under his name and than not following through.  It is about making a committment under his name and not following through. 

And Neiman I thank you for not trying to explain your bigoted, closed minded view of scripture.

BTW, taking the Lords name in vain has nothing to do with cursing.  It is not about the casual usage of his name.  It is about swearing an oath under his name and than not following through.  It is about making a committment (sic) under his name and not following through.

Glad you recognize that! It is also about cursing things God has not cursed. Only God had the power to damn!
It could be argued that Rev. Mike’s course language and poor judgment belies the name ”Christian”, by which he takes the Lord’s Name in vain everyday by his conduct!

You fear ministers are activists and outside your comfort zones.

You know nothing of me or my “comfort zones”. I don’t have problems with ministers of the gospel standing up for justice or equality. I have problems with frauds like the Rev. Mike who defend hate mongerers and race mongerers like Louis Farrakhan and Jeremiah Wright.

His idea of the “social” gospel has eclipsed anything he might have accomplished with the genuine Gospel!

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

As I said, you and your pal RBB just want a fight. I am forgiven, not perfect. I get in the flesh at times and say things I regret and as to my being closed minded that is a wholly subjective, biased view of yours truly and your are entitled to your opinion, alebit an ignorant one in this case.

I am out of this thread, you and RBB just want to use your view of Christ and the world to beat up on people and I am not interested.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Well Neiman, you use your religion to beat up on people. You are a hypocrite and a pharisee - loudly proclaiming your faith and then acting like scum.

Remember when you called me ‘son of Satan?’

You also bore false witness against me.

Yet another fake christian, just like Wright and Pfleger.

by which he takes the Lord’s Name in vain everyday by his conduct!

How’s that different from you or most Christians except that in his ministry he fights against drugs and tries to bring the gospel to the downtrodden, particularly prostitutes. 

If you really believe that he was using the phrase “I’ll be damned” in any other sense than the common vernacular, than you stupider than I thought.  But what you really are is a hypocrite and a liar trying to score political points.

But what you really are is a hypocrite and a liar trying to score political points.

Lestat: Thank you for being particularly dense. Let me spell it out for you! It is not what you think of Rev. Mike, or what I think of Rev. Mike, it is how big of an albatross is Rev. Mike when added to Jeremiah Wright and their good buddy Louis Farrakhan. (Note to ribbit brain: There is a demonstrable connection in the here and now, not eight years ago!)

Obama is the one who has to account for the endorsements he accepts. But, you Lestat of The Loose Lips, called me a liar. Could you point out to me so much as a single instance where I have lied about anything?
Or do you just like flapping your loose lips to hear the sound of the wind whistling through your empty head? Put up or shut up Lestupid!

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

As someone who was baptised and confirmed a Catholic, I was always taught that you never “damn” anyone...even in jest.

I remember a nun once saying that damning someone was worse than the F-word, or the SH-word.

Could you point out to me so much as a single instance where I have lied about anything?

You said your problem with Father Pflegler was his being foul mouthed.  Now you say it is about Obama accepting his endorsement.  You are feigning moral outrage at his language to score political points.

You said your problem with Father Pflegler was his being foul mouthed.  Now you say it is about Obama accepting his endorsement.  You are feigning moral outrage at his language to score political points.

My problem with Rev. Mike IS that he is foul mouthed . It offends me! That is not a lie, mind reader! Obama’s problem, on the other hand, is political, which is why I thought it might be of interest on a political blog, moron!

When you call me a liar, that is what the Bible calls ”bearing false witness”. But I forgive you, because in this, like so many other things in your life, you know not what you do!

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

You fear ministers are activists and outside your comfort zones.  “Comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.”

What nonsense. We dislike ministers who defend the dispicible. We dislike ministers who use their position as “the Lord’s man” to preach politics and stand up for ugly, hate filled, anti-American little men who seek to tear others down instead of build society up.

You said your problem with Father Pflegler was his being foul mouthed.

Let him be damned. He is defending evil men from righteous criticism. The problem here is not that he said “I’ll be damned”. It’s that he said “I’ll be damned if I let them tear down Wright and Farrakhan.” In defending the above mentioned, he is lumped in with them. And as such, he deserves the same condemnation.

Obama/Biden is not change. It’s more of the same.

You fear ministers are activists

Actually, if I “fear” anything, it is that that too few of God’s “ministers” are God’s ministers!

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

Actually, if I “fear” anything, it is that that too few of God’s “ministers” are God’s ministers!

Something we agree on.

BTW, Lestat: I really appreciate your methodology! You determined that I was a liar, based solely on your ass-umption of my motives!
Please don’t let facts interfere with your “reasoning” again!  You do so well without them!  /sarcasm

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan