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Tuesday, March 20, 2007

What do y’all think of this article?

I almost skipped over this, read several pieces about Saddam’s VP getting streched, all rather clone-like. Except for this line, “amid worrying reports that Iraqi insurgents used children in a suicide atack”, that grabbed my eye! What do you news junkies think of this article, overall and in particulars.

Saddam’s deputy hanged on anniversary of US-led invasion

Compiled by Daily Star staff
Wednesday, March 21, 2007

Saddam Hussein’s former vice president was hanged for crimes against humanity early Tuesday, the fourth anniversary of the US-led invasion, amid worrying reports that Iraqi insurgents used children in a suicide attack this weekend. US Major General Michael Barbero, deputy director for regional operations in the Joint Staff at the Pentagon, said adults in a vehicle with two children in the backseat were allowed through a Baghdad checkpoint. The adults then abandoned the vehicle and detonated it with the children still inside, he said, raising worries that the insurgency has adopted a new tactic to get through security checkpoints with bombs.

“Children in the back seat, lower suspicion, we let it move through,” he said. “They parked the vehicle, the adults run out and detonate it with the children in the back.”

“The brutality and ruthless nature of this enemy hasn’t changed,” Barbero said.

The general called that incident a new tactic, but noted US forces had only seen one such occurrence involving children.

Former Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan was buried on Tuesday in Saddam’s home village of Awja in northern Iraq outside a hall in which the dictator himself is laid to rest.

Ramadan, aged almost 70, was the fourth regime official to be executed for his role in the killings of Shiites from the village of Dujail after an attempt on Saddam’s life there in 1982.

Government spokesman Ali Dabbagh said the execution of Ramadan, carried out at 3:05 a.m., went according to plan and measures were taken to ensure there was no repeat of controveries surrounding the earlier hangings of Saddam and his half-brother, Barzan al-Tikriti.

Shortly after Ramadan was hanged, a car bomb near a Baghdad police station killed at least five people and wounded 17 and another bomb in Baghdad killed three. Mortar bombs later killed seven in southern Baghdad. At least 32 corpses of men killed execution-style were found in the capital, security officials said.

In western Anbar Province, tribal fighters and police clashed with Al-Qaeda linked militants near Fallujah. A provincial official in Ramadi said 39 militants were killed, along with nine tribal fighters and eight policemen.
http://www.dailystar.com.lb

In Amman, Iraqi Kurdish leader Massoud Barzani described Iraq’s situation as disastrous and predicted it would worsen if US troops suddenly withdrew.

“The security situation was better in Iraq in 2003 ... But in other cases, of course Iraq 2007 is better,” Barazani said.

He said he wanted US troops out of Iraq, but stressed that could only happen once “Iraqi forces and the Iraqi government control Iraq and guarantee [its] security and stability.”

“If the civil and sectarian war continues in Iraq and the country is divided, the Kurds will have their own position and take their own decisions,” he added.

US President George W. Bush warned skeptical Americans Monday of the dire consequences of a swift troop withdrawal. Bush appealed for more time for his plan to send in nearly 30,000 additional troops, mostly to stabilize Baghdad.

In his news conference, Barbero said the use of chemical bombings has increased and become a tool of the insurgency, as the three chlorine bombs detonated this past weekend brought the total to six such bombings since January.

“High-profile” suicide and car-bomb attacks by Sunnis against Shiites also have not abated, Barbero said.

But he said increased force in Baghdad had yielded some success, such as a reduction in murders and executions of civilians.

Asked about the Shiite militia led by radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, Barbero declined to say whether US forces were in negotiations with the group.

“I think where we are with the leaders of his movement is at a pretty delicate point and I probably don’t want to talk any more about his followers, where we are in our relationship with them,” Barbero said. “That’s probably best left unsaid.”

But the general said US and Iraqi forces were operating freely in Baghdad’s Sadr City, a Shiite militia stronghold, and that he believed the cleric was still in Iran. - Agencies

I scan the headlines and summary in the Daily Star everyday, usually read at least one article and I just got to ask. Is this an oddly assembled article or what?

Comments

Avatar for lisa

Poor kids they must have probably not had an idea what was to come, even maybe they are kids from the opposite faction kidnapped.

Certainly America cannot leave behind what it created.They Have to stay their and fight and dei just like all other BEINGS.I do feel sorry for some of the young soldeirs who had no clue what was to come, and to add salt to the wound they are mistreated by the Government of the USA, they are used as scapegoets for Bushe’s dreams , pocket, self interests with the Saudis.

lisa on March 20, 2007 at 04:58 pm

lisa
i think the Saudis are a bit more to blame for Islamic extremism than bush is, but hey… it just what i think. you seem to have a little animosity.

2H9
Kids as suicide bombers? Too bad the left are moral relativists of they could complain… oh wait, that doesn’t stop them. Ever realize how their entire emotional rhetoric is based around the assumption of absolute morals yet they don’t believe in them? Also, ever notice how the GOP believes in democracy and absolute morals… seems contradictory.


rasberry

Sparkie Arbuckle on March 21, 2007 at 07:11 am

2Hotel9, I agree it’s pretty strange. 

I thought it was typical reporter faire.  The journalist has mixed about half-a-dozen stories into a single article, liberally “borrowing” from a number of different news streams in the process.

I don’t have the patience to do verify it, but I suspect the Barbero story is copied verbatim from an AP or Reuters story. 

The problem with this type of plagiarism is not so much that it is illegal (in this case, it is not, because of the licensing of the material between AP or Reuters and the news paper allows that), but the bigger problems with plagiarism in general.  Namely that “factoids” once produced, just get recirculated further and further down a generic article till they drop off the bottom.  Nobody vets anything they get, they just accept it blindly and never ask questions.

In my opinion, that is the main reason that US news organizations are in financial trouble.  They are blaming everything from “Johnny can’t read” to “Johnny watches to much TV”, but it never occurs to them, that they just maybe are doing a really sucked-assed job of reporting the news to start with!

Carrick on March 21, 2007 at 09:33 am

I read articles at Daily Star alomost everyday, this article really stuck out. As you point out, it appears to be a comglomerate of multiple stories. And not well stitched together. The headline looks like a combination of 2 different sentences.

I just wanted to get some reactions, and get people other than me looking sideways at this stuff in other papers. I can’t really put an exact finger on it, just seems as if a person did not write this.

Am I nuts? Or are we starting to see computer generated articles?


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on March 21, 2007 at 08:12 pm

2Hotel9, as I understand it, these guys freely plagiarize each other (as I pointed out, they are allowed to do so under licensing agreements).

Looks like the “author” just shoved two stories together at the end.

If you are as big a news junkie as I am, you will often spot almost word-for-word the same paragraph floating through different newspapers, all supposedly locally written.

The craziest thing of this sort I’ve seen is when BBC radio has the announcer reading the interview questions live to pre-recorded responses given by an interviewee.  This gets darn-right strange when you flip from BBC to NPR, as I’ve done, and hear obviously identical responses to different interviewers reading the same questions.  (At least the BBC guy reads his script with flair!)

Carrick on March 21, 2007 at 08:48 pm

2Hotel9

I have a personal Question.  I’m writing a post which includes how the left invades blogs like SA and at the same time you said YOU were excluded from posting on left wing blogs.

I want to be accurate.  Could I get a few examples please and how they did it.  I think you are reasoned and fair minded but the left pulls the welcome mat.

So, a few stories, or you go ahead and blog on it and I’ll tag it or send me a few anectdotes at or just respond here and I’ll get a copy.  I promise to cross post it at SA when it’s done.  It should be good. 

They are such hypocrites.


the AVATAR
Old Tigers are more dangerous when they believe this could be their last hunt.

From , “The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen”
Old tigers, sensing the end,
they’re at their most fierce. 
And they go down fighting.

Gene on March 22, 2007 at 08:13 pm

Mostly my comments stopped being posted, at Daily Kos I was blocked from the site entirely, at Democrat Underground I actually recieved an email notification that I was no longer allowed to comment. Most blogs have registration in order to comment and when I would try to login it just would not process through.

I only got nasty emails and nasty comments directed at me by a few blogs, and most seem to have vanished in the months afterwards. I need to go through my blog list and clearout the deadwood. I am sure that if I had a blog at the time I would have gotten the “Treatment”, the KosKids are quite famous for piling on any blog that disagrees with their religion. And others are known to put people’s information out in the open and encourage all sorts of nastiness.

I will go through my blog list and see who is still pissed at me and let you know! Sorry I cannot give you examples right now, I cleared my old deleted emails and I really wish I had not, lots of stuff I wish I still had.

I’ll get back to you tomorrow with anything I can dig up.


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on March 23, 2007 at 04:05 am
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