Home (Post) Mobile Authors Say Anything Register Login

Thursday, March 13, 2008

“Victimless” crime?

One of the positive angles of an otherwise dreadful situation with Eliot Spitzer is that it may, at least in the minds of some, put to rest the fiction that prostitution is a victimless crime.

My friend Jim has linked to a number of articles from the New York Times that make this point very well.

More or less, the “average" prostitute is likely to have been sexually abused (2/3 chance), a drug user (majority), and has attempted suicide at least once (majority).  They are likely to have been threatened with death, are 51 times more likely to be murdered than liquor store clerks, and their mean age of death is 34.

They often get started as young as 13 or 14 years old.  89% want out, and most have a form of PTSD.

Some might object “but if we legalized it and regulated it, the problems would go away, right?

Wrong.  It actually turns out that the problems persist, even in the most protected environments--like those of Spitzer’s paramour.  If the transcripts in the criminal complaint, and interviews with the paramour herself, are to be believed, drugs, incest, and violence are just about as common in the “high end” as in the garden variety.

Comments

Rob
Rob
19441 comments
Send a private message

Some might object “but if we legalized it and regulated it, the problems would go away, right?

Wrong.  It actually turns out that the problems persist, even in the most protected environments--like those of Spitzer’s paramour.  If the transcripts in the criminal complaint, and interviews with the paramour herself, are to be believed, drugs, incest, and violence are just about as common in the “high end” as in the garden variety.

I guess I’m not entirely convinced.  Even high-end prostitutes are still operating in a “black market” economy.  They have to launder their income and rely on criminal, disreputable types to do so.

If their income could be legitimate I think you’d see a lot of people who aren’t marginalized and desperate in the industry.


When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Rob’s recently listened-to songs:

robport.gif border=0

Rob on March 13, 2008 at 02:49 pm

Follow the link to my friend’s site and read all the articles.  It turns out that even where it’s legal, the same problems persist. 

As I (broken record warning) have said a few times before, women don’t generally do this kind of thing unless they’re coerced in some way.  Legalization simply gives carte blanche to these abuses.

Bike Bubba on March 13, 2008 at 03:33 pm

The question is: Does the business cause broken people, or do broken people gravitate towards this line of work? Perhaps the industry is fueled by those with bad histories and low self esteem, but that doesn’t prove a problem. If anything, the fact that drug use and suicide is as much of a problem on the high end leans more towards the idea that there is something wrong with these people to begin with.


For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of my country.

Kenny on March 13, 2008 at 07:15 pm

It actually turns out that the problems persist, even in the most protected environments--like those of Spitzer’s paramour.

You think that a “protected environment” is running from the law and serious risk of jail time?

Follow the link to my friend’s site and read all the articles.  It turns out that even where it’s legal, the same problems persist.

Except a very important one called the police, who happen to add a very dangerous element into the mix. The police bring the threat of serious consequences. This threat of serious consequences is naturally countered by some of the more disreputable types.

You can’t get around that one. A legal pimp and an illegal pimp are two entirely different animals, for starters. These are different situations where the problems are only magnified under the illegal scenario.

Legalization simply gives carte blanche to these abuses.

The legal brothels in Nevada are filled with women who are there by choice. The industry is regulated and policed and consequently, the “carte blanche” for abuse simply does not exist in the manner you are saying.

likwidshoe on March 13, 2008 at 10:12 pm

Kenny, when the “option” for the broken woman is a mean lifespan of 34 years, abuse, murder, drugs, and so on, I think we can argue that we might not err in trying to eliminate this particular “option” for abused women.  Don’t ya think?  Or are we right in allowing the further victimization of women who have already been victimized?

Lik, follow the links.  You’ll see that even in nations where this kind of thing is legal (officially or de facto), the same problems persist.  Again, you don’t get a woman to have sex with strangers without abusing her and/or forcing her in some way.

For that reason, a “legal” pimp acts in almost exactly the same manner as any other.  He’s got to persuade women to go against their very nature.

Bike Bubba on March 14, 2008 at 06:54 am
Page 1 of 1        

Post a Comment


Before commenting, please recite:

Grant me the serenity to ignore the trolls,
the courage to debate with honest opponents,
and the wisdom to know the difference.

Name   
Email   
URL   
Human?
  
 

Upload Image    

Remember my personal information

Notify me of follow-up comments?

Note: Notifications will only be sent to confirmed email addresses. Confirm your email address here.

    

By submitting your comment you agree to our terms of service.