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Friday, March 16, 2007

Valerie Plame Incriminates Self and Husband Joe Wilson

PlameGate: Although the criminal investigation and trial are over and didn’t find any wrong doing, there is yet another investigation taking place in Washington DC today by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.  We shall call it the PlameGate. 

What a dramatic pursuit this is on the part of Democrats to go after their Commander in Chief.  After over six years of trying, this is the worst misstep they can come up with to go after the Bush administration.  In this highly improbable situation, loaded with exaggerated claims and characters, the effect would be humorous if it weren’t so criminal.  This is not going to be forgotten quickly by the voters; Democrats will be remembered for their petty and impotent politics. 

In today’s heavily democrat led CIA Leak Investigation probing into why an investigation wasn’t initiated in the Valerie Plame name leak of 2003, it was Plame’s own testimony that could end up incriminating not only herself, but her own husband, Joe Wilson.

Incrimination #1: Valerie Plame, a Democrat by the way, recounted the morning of July 14, 2003, the day Robert Novak used Plame and Wilson’s name in an article he had written for his newspaper column. 

Valerie Plame quote from today’s testimony: 



“I found out very early in the morning, when my husband came in and dropped the newspaper on the bed and said, ‘He did it,’’ ‘I felt like I had been hit in the gut. Everything goes through your mind in an instant.’ “He did it!”

He did it?  He did what?  Who is he?  Whoever he is, he did it.  ‘He’ leaked the real name of Valerie Plame to the world that day.  This testimony incriminates Plame because it tells us that she and her husband were both aware that a story leaking her identity was pending, yet they did nothing to try and stop it.  Plame knew who ‘he’ was!  Plame allowed her identity to be released.

Rep. Tom Davis, R-VA, as I did, questioned why Plame didn’t report to her superiors that this story was pending.  One has to wonder why Plame didn’t want anyone to know this.

Incrimination #2: Former US diplomat Joseph Wilson, a Democrat by the way, was sent to Niger as a result of a memo written by his wife, Valerie Plame, to the deputy chief of the CIA’s Counterproliferation Division.  In this memo, Plame suggested that her husband be sent to Niger to investigate whether Iraq was seeking uranium there to build nuclear bombs.  Plame claims she was told to write the memo by one of her superiors.  Dudn’ matter, irrelevant.

Plame testified that her husband, Joe Wilson, did not really want to go to Niger because he had he had already predetermined that he wasn’t going to find anything.  This is incriminating in the sense that it implies Wilson was not interested in serving the best interests of his country, but was acting in a politically expedient manner. 

Incrimination #3: Also at issue is whether Valerie Plame really was a covert CIA agent.  Plame incriminates herself by saying she was a covert agent, but others say she was a desk jockey who walked uncovertly into the office everyday.  Plame’s position with the CIA at the time of the leak did not meet the definition of ‘covert’ for several reasons, which is why Patrick Fitzgerald could not charge anyone with the crime of outing a CIA agent.  Victoria Toensing, a D.C. lawyer specializing in white-collar criminal defense, has testified that “Plame was not covert”.  She worked at CIA headquarters and had not been stationed abroad within five years of the date of Novak’s column.” Which is apparently part of the criteria that go into determining the status of CIA employees. 


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Got Stupid: Sitting and standing behind Valerie Plame and others, during their testimonies, were strange looking creatures holding up ‘Got Impeachment?’ signs, and wearing shirts that exclaimed ‘Impeachment Now!’.  Why is this permitted?  This is disgraceful.  Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson may have been good little soldiers at some point in the past, but what they are now is just a couple of opportunists and political activists, who are using this whole situation to line their pockets as a means of moving their political agenda forward.


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Comments

Without the MSM to spin and fabricate about this non-story, it would have been over three years ago.  Wretched excess.


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robert108 on March 16, 2007 at 02:40 pm

Robert you know I hate disagreeing with you, but it wouldn’t have been over, it never would have started.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on March 16, 2007 at 02:45 pm

Who is dailynewsrush, and is she a hot babe? That is the only relevent question I can come up with regarding the Wilson/Plame pile-o-shit.


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2Hotel9 on March 16, 2007 at 03:00 pm

Apparently, Saint Valerie told the committee that she had nothing to do with Joe’s trip to Niger.  In this she is contradicted by by Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report, and her own memo which was entered into evidence at the Libby trial.

She also implied that Joe’s CIA-sponsored trip was in response to a request from VP Cheney.  But we already know that her memo suggesting Joe for the trip was dated the day BEFORE the VP’s briefing and his memo requesting follow-up information.

If she doesn’t know any better than to contradict her own memo from nearly 4 years ago, then maybe there is actually some truth behind all those blonde jokes we’ve been hearing for years and years.


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Bat One on March 16, 2007 at 03:04 pm

Rush was saying that she is claiming that the idea was some junior somebody who suggested it to her.

So if a junior somebody suggests something and you take it up, you’re (in this case V Plame) responsible for the decision.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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Proof on March 16, 2007 at 03:24 pm

Apparently, Saint Valerie told the committee that she had nothing to do with Joe’s trip to Niger.

She should definitely get “Scootered” for that one.  She is hot, though… Even with the nose job.


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robert108 on March 16, 2007 at 03:30 pm

Robert you know I hate disagreeing with you, but it wouldn’t have been over, it never would have started.

Absolutely right!  I’ll take that sort of disagreement anytime.


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robert108 on March 16, 2007 at 03:39 pm

I’ve lost the link but I did read Gen. Hayden(?) describe her as “under cover” and that her employment was “classified.” FWIW.


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MikeAdamson on March 16, 2007 at 07:37 pm

FWIW… As I have noted before, with the exception of certain public spokespersons and politically appointed senior level individuals, just about everyone who is employed on CIA’s payroll is “classified.” The release of such a bit of information, whether deliberate or inadvertent, does not qualify as a violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act which is the controlling federal statute.

Unlike the publication by the NYT of the NSA Surveillance program, the so-called “outing” of Valerie Plame was not a violation of federal law.  Period.  If there HAD been such a IIPA violation, then presumably there would have been an indictment against the person(s) having done so.


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Bat One on March 16, 2007 at 08:16 pm

Doesn’t the IIPA also require the intention to out the spy? That’s why I don’t think the outing was a crime...IMHO of course.


"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced if the nation doesn’t want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
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MikeAdamson on March 16, 2007 at 09:05 pm

Mike A,

Good Point.  IIPA requires that the individual being “outed” must have been posted overseas in a covert status within the previous 5 years, that the individual doing the “outing” must be shown to have known at the time that the target is covert (as defined by IIPA… not by the target individual at a congressional hearing or in a Vanity Fair puff piece), and that the “outing” was a deliberate or knowingly willful action by the accused.

Obviously, a reasonable evaluation of the circumstances surrounding the Plame revelation show that none of the requirements for a federal violation of IIPA were met.  Thus no indictment.


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Bat One on March 16, 2007 at 10:35 pm

Vanity Fair

I like Atlantic monthly. And furthermore, it appears as if Plame is still undercover:
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Sparkie Arbuckle on March 16, 2007 at 10:42 pm

My favorite part is when she listed her employer on political contributions disclosure forms in the mid-’90s. Take wild guess whose Presidential campaign she contributed to?

Her neighbors told reporters at the start of all this crap that they all knew she worked for CIA. Her husband made no secret of the fact at any point during their marriage. The social register for Northern Virginia/DC region listed her as employed at Langley. Where, exactly, was the secret? And why has Richard Armitage, the person that has admitted to telling Libby and several reporters about the Wilson/Plames, not been arrested for outing a known CIA employee?

Curiouser and curiouser.


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2Hotel9 on March 17, 2007 at 04:46 am

Curiouser and curiouser.

I love it when the media and politicians set out to figure things out! You just know that $5 billion later you still won’t know shit.


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Sparkie Arbuckle on March 17, 2007 at 06:07 am

I don’t suppose it matters much, since a partisan hack like Chairman Henry Waxman is hardly going to make an issue of the disparity between what Ms. Plame/Wilson said in testimony yesterday and what is already on the record, but according to this transcript of her testimony, she WAS in fact sworn in, making her misstatements of fact, lapses of memory, and any outright lies, subject to the same prosecution as those of Scooter Libby.


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Bat One on March 17, 2007 at 06:28 am

Bat
Her memory is just a bit foggy.


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Sparkie Arbuckle on March 17, 2007 at 06:29 am

She gonna get “Scooterized”.


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2Hotel9 on March 17, 2007 at 06:51 am

IIPA requires that the individual being “outed” must have been posted overseas in a covert status within the previous 5 years…

I believe the rejoinder to this point is that the term used in the Act is “served” rather than “posted” thus allowing for the interpretation that service overseas does not necessarily require a posting.


"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced if the nation doesn’t want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
Cicero, 55 BC

MikeAdamson on March 17, 2007 at 07:34 am
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