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Thursday, July 24, 2008

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Hat tip FoxNews.com

Speaking to dinners at Schmidt’s Sausage Haus und Restaurant, John McCain is thought to have said something like: “I’d like to give a speech in Germany.”

He also sampled the Haus’ sausage and made a special point of ordering some chocolate cream puffs, a traditional German dessert, to go.

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Life in Germany must be pretty boring.

Mickey on July 24, 2008 at 04:22 pm

There are always large crowds at a freak show.


You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

docdave on July 24, 2008 at 04:36 pm

There is a fool born every second.


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Best Government $$$ Can Buy on July 24, 2008 at 04:43 pm
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Speaking to dinners at Schmidt’s Sausage Haus und Restaurant

Don’t you mean “Speaking to diners “, dumbass?
Funny thing! Take away staff and security and John McCain spoke to more registered voters at the Sausage Haus than Barama® did at his Ein Folk, Ein Weld rally!



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Proof on July 24, 2008 at 04:44 pm

Oh Spelling Bea, go ahead and prove that for us, wont you?


Excuse me, you were saying?


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Oh Spelling Bea, go ahead and prove that for us, wont you?

Well, I didn’t think even YOU were that big of a moron, but I can’t disprove THAT either!



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Proof on July 24, 2008 at 04:56 pm

So once again poof, you can’t prove what you wrote?


Excuse me, you were saying?


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realitybasedbob on July 24, 2008 at 05:02 pm

Barack Obama is popular among people who normally talk shit on the United States.

Wow, imagine that. How surprising.

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So once again poof, you can’t prove what you wrote?

Are you asking if I cannot disprove that you are a moron? What a buffoon! You make a mistake, aren’t man enough to admit it, then pretend that maybe you said something moronic instead?
What a horse’s ass you are rbb! That I can prove. Pick one of your posts. Any of your posts! This one in particular!



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Proof on July 24, 2008 at 05:18 pm

Life in Germany must be pretty boring.

Why is anyone shocked! Germany was under Herr Hitler and even today is for all intent and purposes a democratic-socialist state and as they say, birds of a feather flock together. Despite a Conservative Leader now, the German people have strong socialist tendencies and would naturally be in tune with a fellow socialist. Also, remember many of them are from former East Germany and still have that Communist ideology seated deep on their hearts.

This is not surprisng to met at all!


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Neiman on July 24, 2008 at 05:18 pm

I knew you couldn’t do it, poof.

But your screeching is a wonderful bonus.


Excuse me, you were saying?


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realitybasedbob on July 24, 2008 at 05:20 pm
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I knew you couldn’t do it, poof.

So, which was it, boob? You made a mistake, or you’re a moron? (Or both?)



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Proof on July 24, 2008 at 05:24 pm

Germany was under Herr Hitler and even today is for all intent and purposes a democratic-socialist state.

Hitler was hardly the first militaristic German tyrant to rise from the ashes of the last one.  Only the latest.

Pity their “leaders” won’t let them fight in Afghanistan.


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Bat One on July 24, 2008 at 05:27 pm
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Dumbass mistake? or dumbass foolish argument because you are incapable of fessing up to a dumbass mistake?
Them’s your choices, realitydevoidbob! Unable to answer the question? Or just unwilling to confirm which dumbass position is truly yours?



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Proof on July 24, 2008 at 05:31 pm

Barack Obama is popular among people who normally talk shit on the United States.

Been to Germany? I have, spent plenty of time there, and didn’t meet anyone who was ‘talking shit’ about Americans. I had a lot of fun, drank a lot of beer, ate a lot of food, and listened to a lot of good music.

I hear Bush is pretty popular with the $audis. They do more than talk shit (c.f. 9/11/2001).


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on July 24, 2008 at 05:33 pm

Been to Germany? I have, spent plenty of time there, and didn’t meet anyone who was ‘talking shit’ about Americans.

I didn’t say Americans. I said the United States.

Germans and other Europeans are often quick to tell us that it’s not that they don’t like the Americans, it’s that they don’t like the government.

Barack Obama enjoys great support among his fellow socialist travelers. Nothing more and nothing less was meant by my simple comment.

likwidshoe on July 24, 2008 at 05:40 pm

Lik.
I was there before 9/11. When they were still on the deutchemark (sp?). Maybe they have changed their views since then. The election of Merkel was better than worse, from an anticommunist angle (the preferred SAB angle).
Unfortunately, big govvy republicanism is just as insidious as socialism on my view. Two sides of a worthless coin. I think that it is a PATHETIC state of affairs when maybe 5 people in the us legislature are willing to criticize the fed. That fed-obedient sheepleness we have been seeing from the GOP for the last 8 years is embarrassing for the party, IMO. (Just like people fawning over Obama for no reason.) You guys are having an identity crisis. Big time. You need to purge the moralists and revive the ‘its a state issue’ meme.


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on July 24, 2008 at 05:54 pm

Oh Spelling Bea, go ahead and prove that for us, wont you?

Clumsily worded by Proof, but if you don’t get his point that speaks very lowly of your intelligence bob. How many Germans can vote for Barack Obama? If even one person was registered to vote at Schmidts, McCain spoke to one more potential voter than Obama did.


For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of my country.

Kenny on July 24, 2008 at 06:34 pm

Oh no, Kenny has fallen, is speaking lowly and he can’t get up!

Kenny, KENNY, how is it that you know for a fact certain, that there was not one potential American voter among the 200,000 plus who came out to listen to Barack Hussein Obama speak yesterday?

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I’m going out on a limb to say that there might have been 4.

And what people have been blended into your avatar?

kenny?


Excuse me, you were saying?


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realitybasedbob on July 25, 2008 at 05:43 am

Obamoid showed up at another rock music concert and gave a speech. Yawn.


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2Hotel9 on July 25, 2008 at 06:29 am

2H9,

To a crowd of 20,000 (according to German Public TV on the scene at the time).


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Rodney Graves on July 25, 2008 at 09:37 am

I will grant McCain campaign at a German Diner (stunt) while Obama is in Germany is stupid.

It is exactly that, a stunt, unless he was using to make fun of Obama’s trip to Germany, but If that is what it was, I did not find it funny.

As for Obama, I am not impressed by any crowds in Germany, Israel, France, ect, and any other stops he decides to make on his tourist venue. This does not give him foriegn policy experience by campaigning in other countries - but it does expand his tourist credentials.

I am not impressed by someone who campaigns for President of the United States of AMERICA, in foriegn countries and with people who do not vote.

I see this as nothing more than photo-ops for Obama to make himself seem more than what he is.

Lightbringer?

No, Light in the record dept.

sanity on July 25, 2008 at 09:51 am

I am not impressed by someone who campaigns for President of the United States of AMERICA, in foriegn countries and with people who do not vote.

And then of course there is this:

The Republican presidential hopeful began a three-day visit to Colombia and Mexico after a campaign swing through Indiana and Pennsylvania, two states hard hit by the loss of manufacturing jobs due in part to trade pacts like the North American Free Trade Agreement among the United States, Mexico and Canada, which McCain strongly supports.

...McCain insisted that the trip to Latin America was not intended to be political and said he would not criticize Obama directly while abroad. He made a similar pledge when he visited Canada but took a swipe at the Democrat nonetheless, suggesting without using Obama’s name that the Illinois senator’s opposition to NAFTA was “nothing more than retreating behind protectionist walls.”


Excuse me, you were saying?


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realitybasedbob on July 25, 2008 at 12:42 pm

You quoted a direct portion of what he was going to talk about...NAFTA, something he has been campaigning about. So it would be acceptable I would think to meet with our partners in this.

Especially when part of this campaign season has been talked about doing away with NAFTA, something in which would make those participating a bit worried with the next president.

As far as McCain, I did not see him using this as a photo-op and making big speeches. perhaps it was because of the love affair of the media with Obama and it never got shown, but I would be more inclined to believe he went there to make assurances to those leaders on NAFTA and his support to it.

Obama on the other hand does nothing quietly and makes everything he does into a photo-op.

Again, I am not impressed with him.

sanity on July 25, 2008 at 01:43 pm
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200,000?

So once again rbb, you can’t prove what you wrote?

Barely five minutes before the speech was supposed to start, ZDF Berlin studio chief Peter Frey added, “We do estimate that 20,000 [literally, “a couple of ten thousand"] people have turned out.”

What accounts for the discrepancy? Maybe when Obama himself showed up, the reporters mistook him for a zero. -James Taranto



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Proof on July 26, 2008 at 03:51 pm

Bullshit! I counted every head in the pictures, there’s 185,231 people.


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nunez on July 26, 2008 at 04:38 pm

Proof

Are you asking if I cannot disprove that you are a moron? What a buffoon! You make a mistake, aren’t man enough to admit it, then pretend that maybe you said something moronic instead?
What a horse’s ass you are rbb! That I can prove. Pick one of your posts. Any of your posts! This one in particular!

Why does proof always sound like my kids in the back seat of the car when im driving? 

Just reach around and smack the shit out of him RBB.


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Buzz on July 26, 2008 at 04:46 pm

Nunez,

You don’t have that many fingers and toes.

Buzz,

At least you put your shirt back on.  Oh, and the word you were looking for last week was “Obdurate.”


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Rodney Graves on July 26, 2008 at 07:31 pm

You don’t have that many fingers and toes.

I don’t get it.


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nunez on July 26, 2008 at 07:49 pm
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I don’t think there’s 200,000 people in either of those pictures, boob.

Here’s a panoramic shot.

I’m still not seeing 200,000.

Honestly, why cant you guys just be satisfied wiht 20,000?  That’s not a bad draw, but it’s not good enough for your messiah right?  I mean, how can he be the savior if he’s not attracting crowds in the hundreds of thousands?

You have to rely on zoomed-in shots that make it appear as though the audience is something it’s not.


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Rob on July 26, 2008 at 07:57 pm

RBB can’t count or he is just plain stupid.  Or both.

There are less than 1000 people in that picture he posted.

This is what “reality based” looks like on the left.  Complete exaggeration followed by an outright dishonest misquote.

Carrick on July 26, 2008 at 08:15 pm

I have been in crowds on the Mall that were bigger, and they were under 100,000.

Oh, I ain’t been ‘noring everybody, just got the worm out of my email and back in the scrum.


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2Hotel9 on July 28, 2008 at 05:03 am

Can’t accept the fact that Obama may be this popular huh?
I call it penis envy.

ellinas on July 28, 2008 at 08:53 am

I call it penis envy.

You would, which shows your ignorance, once again.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 28, 2008 at 09:12 am

Uncle Robert. The crowd was estimated at 200.000.
Now revisionists are attempting to change the numbers.
Right wingers have a vested interest in revisionism.

ellinas on July 28, 2008 at 09:45 am

Right wingers have a vested interest in revisionism.

O ignorant one: Conservatives aren’t “right-wingerss”; an “estimate” is a guess, not a hard number, and since lefties lie, it is more than proper to question their self-serving “estimate” of 200,000 drunk Germans, some of whom came there for a free rock concert.  The estimate of 20,000 is no more or less factual than the estimate of 200,000.  You lying lefties have a vested interest in exaggerating the crowd, so stop squealing.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 28, 2008 at 09:49 am

From the way you are describing the event, I know who is squealing, andwhy I was right about right wingers having a vested interest in revisionism.

ellinas on July 28, 2008 at 09:56 am

overcompensating elinas gets it wrong again.

Since the report on German Public TV came shortly before and during the rally and speech (in which they estimated the crowd at 20,000) and the obamamessiah’s people made their claim of 200,000 after the event, that makes the 200,000 figure the revision.


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Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
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Rodney Graves on July 28, 2008 at 10:00 am

e: Just the facts, moron!  You are wrong about everything; you lefties are the ones lying here.  Rob proved it.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 28, 2008 at 10:04 am

The NeoNazis and the Black Muslims(real right-wingers) aren’t on record about the “estimate”, btw.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 28, 2008 at 10:05 am

Hello dear Rodney. How are you today?

ellinas on July 28, 2008 at 10:24 am
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Barack Obama is popular among people who normally talk shit on the United States.

Wow, imagine that. How surprising.

Liqwid hates our allies.  But he sure doesn’t mind them when they decide to die four Bush’s pet war....does he?

Hannitized on July 28, 2008 at 10:36 am

Nice sneering ellinas. I’m sure that makes you warm inside, but it doesn’t advance your case.  What is shows is just how ignorant and simultaneously cynical a person can get. 

Rodney is right, the 20,000 number was the original estimate.  The 200,000 is a misquoted number that the media have all glommed onto.

The fact is there isn’t enough space for 200,000 people to have shown up in that part.  200,000 is an awful lot of people.  I don’t understand the need for the left to exaggerate this badly, nor why they would be so gleeful to show their ignorance of what a large number 200,000 people is.

Carrick on July 29, 2008 at 11:44 am

I don’t understand the need for the left to exaggerate this badly, nor why they would be so
gleeful to show their ignorance of what a large number 200,000 people is.

Propaganda.  The lefties are desperate to steal this election from real Americans. They want totalitarian control, and will tell any lie to try to achieve it.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 29, 2008 at 11:48 am
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