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Why are minorities the only faces you see when you Conservatives talk about being tough on crime and complain about those on welfare?

Gee! You’re the one obsessing about race here! Conservatives are are tough on criminals indiscriminately! We don’t care what your “color” is! If you do the crime, prepare to do the time! We prefer equal opportunity law enforcement!

Do you have a problem in punishing the guilty no matter what their race is? I sure don’t!

A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Ya W, Proof is right.  You’re the one concerned with race.  I want the death penalty for murderers no matter the race.  Why is it you liberals are always the ones making an issue to be not about the issue, but about race?  Get over it boy.

The “true faces”?

Hahaha!

You said that after admitting that minorities “have a very high rate of crime in relation to their population”.

Your race-baiting fails.

Btw, where are these faces that you see? I think you’re just making that up.

Like I have said before, you conservatives can’t handle the truth. I stick by my comments because they are true. Law enforcement is my livelihood. And I am hard as hell on all criminals regardless of race or class. I mean, like why aren’t the elite, celebrities and sports figures in jail for drug possession? Last time I looked, it was against the law. No they are in rehab. Ain’t right!

Like I have said before, you conservatives can’t handle the truth.

We don’t accept your blatant race-baiting, so therefore we “can’t handle the truth”?

You’re full of it. You fail.

watashiwa.  Do you have the statistics to cite for your facts?  Yes, they can be true when you couch each statement with qualifiers such as:  almost, practically, most… There are also plenty of gang members who have not been caught or even tried.  In our town, one shot a deputy as he was serving a warrant.  The “perp” was killed on the spot.  Care to guess the race(s) of each?

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Watashiwa: Minorities commit a ridiculous ammount of crime for their percentage! How dare people acknowledge this? Filthy racists!

Everyone else: Wait. You admit that minorities commit a lot of crime, then whitewash it?

W: Correct, racist.

EE: You’re a moron, you know that?

W: Whatever. You don’t want to face the truth!

Wata then goes out, convinces himself that black is white and white is black, then promptly gets run over by a herd of zebras.

The Color of Crime
by Patrick J. Buchanan
Posted: 08/21/2007

The execution-style murder of three African-American college students in Newark, N.J., forced to kneel and shot in the head—allegedly by an illegal alien from Peru who was out on bail for the serial rape of a 5-year-old—has the makings of a Willie Horton issue in 2008.

Newark, like New York, is a “sanctuary city,” where cops are not to ask criminal suspects if they are in the country legally. Mitt Romney has been hammering Rudy Giuliani on the issue, trashing his tough-cop resume by painting the mayor as den mother of the Big Apple’s playpen for illegal aliens.

The arrest of Jose Carranza in that Newark massacre, amid reports he had Hispanic accomplices and the murders may have been part of a gang initiation, has also elevated the issue of the black-brown war raging in U.S. big cities.

and

Overall, the new Justice findings jibe with previous studies,” said the Post. “For example, a review of FBI data from 2004 by the Violence Policy Center, a liberal-leaning group that campaigns for stricter gun control laws, found that blacks accounted for about half of the nation’s murder victims that year.”

“Black victimization is a real problem, and it’s often black on black,” said David Harris, a law professor at the University of Toledo who studies crime statistics.

“Often”? Correction, Harris. As the Post reports and Justice concedes, in more than nine out of 10 cases, black victims are murdered by fellow blacks.

Utterly absent from the Post story and Justice Department stats is anything about white victims of crime. Not a word. Do white folks not count, though they are two-thirds of the population?

Yet, in “The Color of Crime: Race, Crime and Justice in America,” produced by the “right-leaning” New Century Foundation in 2005, using the same FBI and Justice surveys, startling facts emerge:

-- “Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against other blacks.” Forty-five percent of the victims of violent crime by blacks are white folks, 43 percent are black, 10 percent are Hispanic.

-- Blacks are seven times as likely as people of other races to commit murder, eight times more likely to commit robbery and three times more likely to use a gun in a crime.

-- “Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit violent crime against a white person than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.” (If decent black folks have trouble hailing a cab, and they do, these numbers may help explain it.)

-- Black-on-white rape is 115 times more common than the reverse.

Even the two most famous sexual assaults by white men on black women in the last two decades—the Tawana Brawley and Duke rape cases—turned out to be hoaxes.

What do these statistics tell us? A message the Post will not report. The real repository of racism in America—manifest in violent interracial assault, rape and murder—is to be found not in the white community, but the African-American community. In almost all interracial attacks, whites are the victims, not the victimizers.

...for great justice

ChiefRZ:I don’t know if you were old enough, but during GeorgeI’s campaign when the issue of keeping criminals locked up to prevent them committing more crimes, he used the face of Willie Horton, a black man who had committed a killing after early release. I am sure there were many whites that have done the same thing. Even many staunch republicans saw it as blatantly racist. The purpose was to inflame the supposedly deep seated fear among whites of being victims of black on white crime. Since we are on this subject, let’s talk about Tawana Brawley. That case was an effort to highlight the fact that law enforcement did not go after suspects with the same fervor when the victim was black as they did when the victim was white. I may not have statistics, but I do have history (both written and oral) to back up what I say. No. I am not on the lookout for these incidents. In fact, I thought that we were all over this long ago. It distresses me that these situations still exist. But, I realize that human nature being what it is, things are slow to change.
A utopian world? Not in my lifetime.

watashiwa,

Do you know who was the first to bring up Willie Horton..?  It was Algore in the primary election.

atease

he used the face of Willie Horton

The National party did not use pictures of Horton. As a matter of fact, after I’d heard the details of the story, I personally pictured Willie Horton as an overweight white guy! (Like the dumb slob in the Willie and Ethel cartoons.) It wasn’t until weeks later that I saw a picture of Willie Horton in that most racist publication: Newsweek, that I realized that Mr. Horton was black.
I was (and still am) offended by his acts, not his race!

A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Watashiwa.  Tawana Brawley lied.  Al Sharpton knew it.  He perpetuated that lie for over a decade.  Remember it.  Yes I do.  I lived in Connecticut at the time.  I saw a meeting with Al.  Several of the attendees pointedly asked him if he were on the level because of his past ~lies~ basically, they did not believe him then and the meeting was pretty similar looking.  Next, as atease replied, it was Al Gore who brought up the subject.  It was about releasing murderous criminals who went on to kill innocent civilians.  It was about crime and punishment.  Dukakas was the liberal who did it.  I guess he couldn’t stand the heat.  That is a whole ‘nother issue altogether.
JJ was correct from the statistics cited above.  If someone at random encounters a male person, who would he not like them to be?
Time for an honest discussion on race and agree on real solutions.  Treat every criminal equally.

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Why are minorities the only faces you see when you Conservatives talk about being tough on crime

Because we have to use pictures to get simple concepts across to liberals, I guess.

What a racist piece of crap. And you are a cop? In Grand Forks, by any chance? Someone told us that cops in Grand Forks are prejudiced while murdering people. Was that you? Are you the racist that is giving all the other GF cops a bad rap?

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watashiwa,

Interesting piece, and your follow up comment is interseting as well. But here’s a piece of advice - if you’re going to post opinion pieces (like I do) be prepared for when people challenge you on them. Like I’m going to right now.

Law enforcement is your occupation? As what? And JC Penney security guard doesn’t count. Nor does “private investigator”. If you don’t have at the very least a POST certification then you aren’t in law enforcement.

You’re “hard on criminals” regardless of race? Yeah well, speaking as someone who just spent the last 19 years on the street I can tell you that my expression to them was that when I take out the garbage I don’t care what color bag it’s in.

And when I smell bullshit I tend to call it bullshit. It’s another of my many character flaws. Gettin’ a whiff now, just by the way.

If I’m wrong and you’re a brother or sister oficer, then I’ll apolgize in the same forun in which I challenged you. But if I’m not - well, then, don’t bring it up again and we’ll all be happy.

Have a nice day.

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Willie Horton wasn’t on an early release.  He was given a weekend out of prison when he took the opportunity to leave the jurisdiction and commit heinous crimes.

The fault of this program was the then governor who championed this stupid policy.  We certainly don’t want someone with that poor of judgment to become president.

There’s no racism, only prudent politics.  The white people who saw it as racism were by and large all Democrats, go figure.  Did they object when Al Gore raised concerns about the program in the primaries?

Or is it not an issue if a politician needlessly releases a predator into the population?  If so why shouldn’t it be?

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.