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Sunday, June 01, 2008

The Sad Case of Linda O’Boyle

Linda O’Boyle is dead of cancer at age 64. Her death certificate says so. But the truth is, she was killed by the NHS, Great Britian’s National Health Service, and Alan Johnson, the Health Secretary.

O’Boyle, while being treated under England’s socialized medicine scheme, committed a fatal error.  Desperate for a cure, she sought and paid for private medical care and purchased a drug for her condition not available from the NHS.

Outraged, the NHS and Johnson ruled that if she could afford to purchase any private care, then she would have to pay for all of her care provided by the NHS.

She could not, and the NHS let her die.

Johnson’s response was cold and marxist:
Co-payment would create a two-tier NHS, with preferential treatment for patients who could afford the extra drugs.


[Emphasis on afford]

By their very nature, national health care schemes are socialist bureaucracies run by bureaucratic socialist pin-heads whose highest priority is always “One Size Fits All”, and whose hidden agenda is to always punish those with means; the rich !!

Considering that National Health Care is near the top of Barack Obaba’s to-do list once he is in the White House, voters might do well to keep the late Linda O’boyle - and themselves - in their thoughts and prayers.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article4040146.ece

Comments

Sad but true.

Zsa Zsa on June 1, 2008 at 08:14 am

Pparets. I am sure you can find a lot of Linda O’Boyle’s, and many pin-heads whose highest priority is always profit, here in our beloved USA.

ellinas on June 1, 2008 at 09:54 am

Ellinas:  Maybe so, but not under socialized mdicine.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

pparets on June 1, 2008 at 10:05 am

I am sure you can find a lot of Linda O’Boyle’s, and many pin-heads whose highest priority is always profit, here in our beloved USA.

Can you back up the statement with some examples?  Didn’t think so.

Question: Do you even consider the validity of the assertions you post?  Didn’t think so.


You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

docdave on June 1, 2008 at 02:09 pm

Can you back up the statement with some examples?  Didn’t think so.

Question: Do you even consider the validity of the assertions you post?  Didn’t think so.
docdave on June 1, 2008 at 02:09 pm

Ya mean to tell me someone of means and some working stiff get the same medical care? Ya got to be kidding me! And provide you examples? Many of them, but you would find something else to argue about, wouldn’t ya? I thought so.
Earth to docdave: A person I know cannot afford the $900.00 copay for the MRI. Another one I know got as many as neccessary without worring about cost.

ellinas on June 1, 2008 at 08:57 pm

e can’t even come up with a definition of “profit”, but he just knows it’s evil, because Karl Marx told him so.
Pathetic.


If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

robert108 on June 1, 2008 at 09:06 pm

I don’t jump when you say jump, you chump!
I jump when I deem it necessary.

ellinas on June 1, 2008 at 09:20 pm

e man can’t jump!


If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

robert108 on June 1, 2008 at 09:51 pm

Earth to ellinas:  When did profit become an evil thing?


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on June 1, 2008 at 10:15 pm

Bat: As you probably know, Karl Marx referred to profit in business as “the unearned increment”, stolen from the workers(the only real source of value).  e man is just jumping to his Master’s command.


If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

robert108 on June 1, 2008 at 10:46 pm

robert108:  Um, I think Ellina S is a woman?  ... or should be?


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

pparets on June 2, 2008 at 04:15 am

Earth to ellinas:  When did profit become an evil thing?
Bat One on June 1, 2008 at 10:15 pm

When the person in charge of a healthcare related buisiness placed it ahead of a person’s well being.

ellinas on June 2, 2008 at 11:22 am

When the person in charge of a healthcare related buisiness placed it ahead of a person’s well being.

That’s a total fabrication, based on the false teachings of Karl Marx.  If you knew what profit really was, you wouldn’t make such a ridiculous statement.


If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

robert108 on June 2, 2008 at 11:33 am

It was a govt policy decision that killed her; it had everything to do with the govt’s lust for control, and had nothing whatsoever to do with “profit”.


If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

robert108 on June 2, 2008 at 11:35 am

When the person in charge of a healthcare related buisiness placed it ahead of a person’s well being.

ellinas,

But if there is no profit, why would the doctor, the drug company, the health insurance carrier, the home healthcare supply distributor, the medical billing company, the bandage manufacturer, the medical records software company, the office supply retailer, the medical uniform provider, the PET scan, CAT scan, EKG machine, echo-cardiogram, surgical instrument, stent, suture, ambulance, and latex glove manufacturers be in business in the first place?


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on June 2, 2008 at 01:13 pm

BatOne:  Liberals have come to believe that health care is an entitlement if not a constitutional right.

Hence, they have no problem with a bureaucrat like Health Minister Johnson making life-and-death decisions as long as every one dies equally, or preferably, people of means like Linda O’Boyle.

And, of course, liberals would gladly take away our right to choose our own health-care provider and spend our tax-dollars - yours and mine - all the while claiming that they are the party that “cares”.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

pparets on June 2, 2008 at 01:48 pm

We are and must defend our freedoms. 

liberals would gladly take away our(my) right to choose our (my) own health-care provider

Exactly.  With Hillary’s proposal, it would have been a federal crime of $10,000 to find your own doctor and pay him yourself.

Communism is evil

Chief RZ on June 2, 2008 at 02:11 pm

Liberals have come to believe that health care is an entitlement if not a constitutional right…

And, of course, liberals would gladly take away our right to choose our own health-care provider and spend our tax-dollars - yours and mine - all the while claiming that they are the party that “cares”.

pparets,

As Markos himself once put it so inelegantly, “Screw ‘em!”

My responsibilities in life, including those to my fellow men and women, are mine to decide, not some liberal bureaucrat in search of one more excuse to further deprive me of my freedom.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on June 2, 2008 at 02:14 pm

Ya mean to tell me someone of means and some working stiff get the same medical care? Ya got to be kidding me! And provide you examples? Many of them, but you would find something else to argue about, wouldn’t ya? I thought so.
Earth to docdave: A person I know cannot afford the $900.00 copay for the MRI. Another one I know got as many as neccessary without worring about cost.

ellinas on June 1, 2008 at 08:57 pm

When the person in charge of a healthcare related buisiness placed it ahead of a person’s well being.

ellinas on June 2, 2008 at 11:22 am

ellinas on June 2, 2008 at 03:54 pm

Ooooooohhhh-eeeeeeeeh!!!! All the vultures are circling above my head. I am not dead yet guys! Stop circling and sit your asses down. Maybe than you will have a better perspective on the situation.

ellinas on June 2, 2008 at 03:57 pm

ellinas wants “perspective”.

Here you go, ellinas.

Your kind controlling health care would be a death sentence to many.

Your “highest priority” is cheating, lying, and control.

You may now continue your mindless bitching about profit, as if your hypocritical lying ass works for free.

likwidshoe on June 2, 2008 at 04:08 pm

ellinas: 

You mean to tell me someone of means and some working stiff get the same medical care?

Well, no, of course not.  Anymore than I get to drive a BMW because my neighbor has one.

The working stiff gets whatever his health-care plan provides for, or he gets free assistance at hostpital EMS or at neigborhood clinics. A level of care, by the way, which is still better than 75% of the world’s population gets.

Your friend can apply for a low-cost or free MRI by going to the right source.  Of course, he/she will be on a waiting list, but he/she would be anyway in a NHC system.  The wait in Canada is 3 - 6 months.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

pparets on June 2, 2008 at 04:15 pm

Lik! I find nothing wrong with honest profit.
Furthermore, people in countries with “socialist” as some of you would call their health care are living just as many years if not more than US.

ellinas on June 2, 2008 at 04:15 pm

The life expectancy issue comes down to the terrible choices too many Americans make on a daily basis about their poor diet, lack of physical activity and risky behaviors; alcohol, tobacco, drugs, std’s. 

Every time I get home from Europe, I am reminded of and shocked at the prevailing obesity everywhere in the states!

Most of this has little or nothing to do with socialized medicine.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

pparets on June 2, 2008 at 04:23 pm

ellinas - Furthermore, people in countries with “socialist” as some of you would call their health care are living just as many years if not more than US.

Why the scare quotes? Just be honest.

People in Japan live longer?

No kidding?

Think that the small difference could possibly be attributed to genetics, not to mention the quality of life choices detailed by pparets above?

likwidshoe on June 2, 2008 at 04:27 pm

I find nothing wrong with honest profit.

You lie again; since you don’t know what “profit” means, you have no idea of what you are talking about.


If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

robert108 on June 2, 2008 at 05:00 pm

When the person in charge of a healthcare related buisiness placed it ahead
of a person’s well being.

You lie again; this thread is about a woman who was killed by a “not for profit” national healthcare system that exercised totalitarian control over her care.  A free market healthcare system would have sustained her.
You just don’t get it.  In your zeal to bash the American economic system, you have to continually lie.


If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

robert108 on June 2, 2008 at 05:03 pm

pp: Absolutely.  “Freedom” also means the freedom to screw up.  We have the freedom to do what we desire, without a totalitarian govt micromanaging our lives, and we also have the freedom to enjoy the consequences of our choices; it’s a character issue.
The NHS showed to typical callousness and low character of socialism-infected societies.


If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

robert108 on June 2, 2008 at 05:34 pm
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this is such a tragic news

lab coat on July 11, 2008 at 02:06 pm
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