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smells like a smear job to me. ..

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim.  He is quick to point out that, “He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.”

no attribution for the source of that direct quote?

where the proof that Obama is or was ever a Muslim?

....and anon leaps to the defense of the Hope Of The Left, his liberal dogma flashing like the blade of Zorro. Or is that Zero? When it comes to lefties I can never get that straight.

Anon, you guys are going to be awfully disappointed when Obama falls flat on his face. All shadow, no substance.

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Hey, where’s Curt from Flopping Aces when you need him to uncover the source that Goon refused to provide and to raise hell until it’s produced.  That goes for you to Rob!

Puzzled and aNON, why don’t you try Google before you cast aspersions?

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

did already, Whitless.  The point remains that the story was “sourceless” what all you all scream about the MSM, yet when it is applied to a “leftie”, you are all about thinking it’s the truth now. 

Show me the source or at least why aren’t you and Curt and Rob screaming about sources on this story.

Hillary was very instrumental in revealing Obama and his Radical Islamic roots. It is not exactly a secret OR a partisan smear… It is a fact.

ZZ, facts that aren’t friendly to liberals are smears.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Well then, Hillary is doing the smearing. Who needs the Republicans to smear Obama, when we have Hillary?

Once again, Zsa Zsa, can you provide any proof or scintilla of proof that this isn’t a rightie smear to get both Barack and Hillary at the same time.  The righties are so experienced at this.  Once again, why are you ignoring my source questions?  Where’s Curt?  Where’s Rob?  Where’s Whitless?  Come on guys, you’re all about sourcing, why not now?

And ZZ, you’re better than this.

Puzzle, Really! Google it. Hillary is very concerned about his Wasabi upbringing. I am not very computer savy or I would show it to you. Google Osama muslim roots. he admits it too. It is common knowledge. It is something he is NOT proud of…

Puzzle, Hillary is probably fearful that Osama will beat her. You know how that political machine works during this time of the political scheme of things…

Let us assume that as a child he went to the Indonesian madrasas. But as a child did he have a choice? And why does this matter now?
Hypocrycy is written all over this. It did not matter to you guys that GW Bush was a drunk and a druggy did it? Nahh!!!! It did not affect his gray matter, or did it. Therein lies the truth.

Well then, Hillary is doing the smearing. Who needs the Republicans to smear Obama, when we have Hillary?

Zsa Zsa on January 22, 2007 at 12:26 pm

Then stop smearing the guy. Find something tangible and criticize him. Not what he did as a child. That is stooping very low.

Hillary is very concerned about his Wasabi upbringing. I am not very computer savy or I would show it to you. Google Osama muslim roots. he admits it too. It is common knowledge. It is something he is NOT proud of…

Zsa Zsa on January 22, 2007 at 12:44 pm

Well Zsa Zsa if he is NOT proud of it, then it is a non issue. By the way wasabi is horseradish in Japanese. The correct term is Wahabi.

ellinas: In this time when we are fighting for our lives and our culture against Muslim extremists, isn’t it our right to know that a candidate for President has Muslim roots?  Seems to be common sense to me. 
BTW, you lie about the President having been a druggie; that is a leftie smear, and isn’t based on any facts. Obama, on the other hand, has admitted it straight out.  Isn’t it hypocritical of you to make a false accusation against the President, while ignoring the reality of Obama’s drug use while defending him?

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Wahabism is the radical teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world.
By goon on January 19, 2007 at 02:02 pm

Explain then why the chief terrorist fighter is kissing and holding hands with the king of Wahabis at his ranch in Crawford Texas?

HA! Sorry, Guys… I hate when Obama is not proud of his Wasabi japanese horseradish heritage.  BTW. Who ever lied about the President havng a drug and alchohol problem once? He was very open about it.
Puzzle, personally Obama and his past radical Islam past is not an issue for me. It might even come in handy? Who knows?

ellinas: In this time when we are fighting for our lives and our culture against Muslim extremists, isn’t it our right to know that a candidate for President has Muslim roots?  Seems to be common sense to me. 
robert108 on January 22, 2007 at 01:02 pm

Yes dear Robert I see how you are fighting for your life. Locked away in an underground bunker somewhere in California in front of a computer terminal while suicide bombers are wreaking havoc aboveground.
By the way which elementary school did GW Bush attend? And did he have any choice in the matter?
And how come that fact was not important to you?
By the way. Enough allready calling people liers.

ellinas: When you lie, I will call you on it. President Bush isn’t a Muslim, nor does he have any Muslim roots.

Explain then why the chief terrorist fighter is kissing and holding hands with the king of Wahabis at his ranch in Crawford Texas?

The King of Saudi Arabia is not “the King of the Wahabbis.  Saudi Arabia is a country; Wahabbism is a religion.  I guess you lefties only want to talk about diplomacy, but your hatred of the President makes you too stupid to appreciate it when it happens.
BTW, the madrassas are famous as terrorist indoctrination centers, so the concern for Obama’s core values is very relevant.  Little kids tend to believe what teachers tell them.

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BTW. Who ever lied about the President havng a drug and alchohol problem once? He was very open about it.
Zsa Zsa on January 22, 2007 at 01:11 pm

Well dear Zsa Zsa the Denier in Chief, Head Propagandist and right wing Apologist here at SA: Robert108did a few minutes ago.
“BTW, you lie about the President having been a druggie; that is a leftie smear, and isn’t based on any facts. Obama, on the other hand, has admitted it straight out.  Isn’t it hypocritical of you to make a false accusation against the President, while ignoring the reality of Obama’s drug use while defending him?
robert108 on January 22, 2007 at 01:02 pm

The King of Saudi Arabia is not “the King of the Wahabbis.  Saudi Arabia is a country; Wahabbism is a religion
robert108 on January 22, 2007 at 01:19 pm

Go ahead and sell your bull to someone else. Whabism is the official brand of Islam practiced in Saudi Arabia. The Saudi King is the king of the Wahabi Arabs.

ellinas: As usual, you substitute personal attack for anything substantive.  Your hatred of me and the President has made you stupid.  So sad.

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ellinas: As usual, you substitute personal attack for anything substantive.  Your hatred of me and the President has made you stupid.  So sad.

robert108 on January 22, 2007 at 12:35 pm

Why do you say the above? Is it your answer to this?
“Go ahead and sell your bull to someone else. Whabism is the official brand of Islam practiced in Saudi Arabia. The Saudi King is the king of the Wahabi Arabs.”
Robert108 having failed to defend your statement concerning the King of Wahabis you have turned to stupid statements trying to divert attention from the real issue.
Knock it off. Try to sell your bull elsewhere.

ZsaZsa, what radical muslim past, can you please provide me with the proof that when he was a child for two year he attend a Wahabi school.  Please provide me with the proof you write of his radical islam past.  Is he a Catholic since he attended a catholic school for two years after he went to the Muslim school.  He was less than 10years old for God’s sake, come on already, Zsa Zsa.

And please show me where Hillary has stated that she is concerned about Barack muslim background. 

Geesh you guys are absolutely unbelievable. a kid of about 7 or 8 is sent to a school for two years.  He went to a catholic school after that.  What do you say to that?  Nothing. Boy you are so afraid of Barack Hussein Obama.

Knock it off. Try to sell your bull elsewhere.

I stated a fact, and you have only insult in reply.  Your stupidity speaks for itself.  The King of Saudi Arabia is not a religious leader.  I’m sorry I have to tell you that.

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This smells a lot like conspiratorial, 9/11 was controlled demolition, crap.

Puzzle, When Obama was on Oprah, I believe he told the audience about his astranged Father??? His father is the real Radical Islamic.  BUT he has had nothing to do with his father.  Did you try to Google Obama muslim roots? I think Hillary is making more of an issue of it than anyone so people will support her instead of him?  Check it out! Hillary and the “Clinton machine” are the ones pumping that out at the moment. It’s politics as usual. All the candidates trash eachother until they know who will actually be the one. It is the best time for hearing all the dirt. Obama is more of a threat to Hillary than anyone, IF you ask me?

Knock it off. Try to sell your bull elsewhere.

I stated a fact, and you have only insult in reply.  Your stupidity speaks for itself.  The King of Saudi Arabia is not a religious leader.  I’m sorry I have to tell you that.

robert108 on January 22, 2007 at 02:11 pm

Now let us discuss stupidity. Nowhere have I claimed that the king of Saudi Arabia is a relegious leader.
Stop it trying to twist my words. I said he is the king of the Wahabi Arabs, and GW Bush was kissing him and were holding hands.
Once again. Knock it off. Try to sell your bull elsewhere.

ZsaZsa, again, you are simply spreading what you have heard. I have asked you for your source and you again claim this is all Hillary.  Again, what is your proof of Hillary doing this? And what is your proof that Barack’s father is a radical muslim.  These rumors were started by Insight online magazine, with not one source named.  You all pick it up and then whine when the MSM does the same thing.  You are doing exactly what you hate the MSM for doing. 

Zsa Zsa,you have not cited one source. If you are going to spread these rumors at least have the common courtesy of saying they are rumors. As such not a single blogger here has iterated one scintilla of evidence to prove any of the allegations made in this thread.

so put up or shut up!

Puzzle...One way of finding out would be for you to write to Senator Obamas office and ask him your self? He admitts it. He just tries to down play it...It is not a secret.

What Zsa Zsa does he admit? What does he downplay?  that he attended a muslim school for two years when he was under 10 years old? Yes. That he is a radical muslim? Hardly. You made the accusation, it is incumbent upon you to prove it.  I shouldn’t have to write to Senator Obama’s office when you made the allegation.

So please, Zsa Zsa, put some meat on your allegations and not tell me to write to the Senator.

Osama’s book Dreams Of My Father talks about his being educated at a Muslim school. His teacher told his mother that he made faces at the Koranic lessons. Puzzle, think about his name?  It is a muslim name…

Yes Zsa Zsa, that does not mean he is a radical muslim or even muslim.  I know lots of people with Irish names who aren’t Irish.  I know lots of people with the name Linda, it means pretty in Spanish. My middle name is French, boy I’m not French. Zsa Zsa, what nationality is that?

You wrote that he was a radical muslim.  He belongs to the United Church of Christ.  Are you going to blame him because he was sent to a muslim school (one that you don’t even know was a radical school) when he was less than 10 years old? He graduated from Harvard, went to a Catholic school for two years.  Why does his two year attendance at muslim school weigh heavier for than his two years at a Catholic school when he was less than 10 years old.

For criminy’s sake here, let’s get some perspective.  He was less than 10 years old at the time Zsa Zsa, less than 10 years old! He was a child!

Puzzle, His Father was the Radical Islamic not Obama…

Zsa Zsa wrote:

Hillary was very instrumental in revealing Obama and his Radical Islamic roots.

personally One way of finding out would be for you to write to Senator Obamas office and ask him your self? He admitts it. He just tries to down play it...It is not a secret.

Zsa Zsa

Obama and his past radical Islam past is not an issue for me.

You have claimed throughout this thread that he is a radical muslim.  I asked for proof now you say his father is a radical muslim.  Again, I ask what proof do you have of that?

What proof do you have of Hillary doing this? Again, why would you make this claim throughout this thread when it is simply based on a two year attendance at a Muslim school you know nothing about when he was under 10 years of age.  You ignore the fact that he attended a Catholic school for 2 years when he was under the age of 10 and that he is a Christian member of the United Church of Christ.

Agsin, I just don’t get it why you would climb on the bandwagon on such a baseless claim on both Hillary and Barack.

You ignore the fact that he attended a Catholic school for 2 years when he was under the age of 10 and that he is a Christian member of the United Church of Christ.

According to leftiehero Rosie O’Donnell, being a Catholic(or any Christian) is even worse than being a radical Muslim, so Hussein Obama has two strikes against him, according to your people.

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Puzzle...He down plays his radical Islamic ROOTS! Roots such as going to an Islamic school for two years. I did not say Obama was or is a radical Islamic person. I have no way of knowing that information. ROOTS such as being brought up in the Islamic faith. He down plays this.  I don’t know any other way to help you understand what I am trying to say to you? What part of that have I not explained?  Personally, Obama seems like a great person. Personally he and I don’t have the same way of thinking on many issues such as partial birth abortion on demand etc. BUT that is not the question.

How is he downplaying is roots Zsa Zsa? He spent the same amount of time in a Catholic school.  Is he downplaying is Catholic roots,Zsa Zsa?  You indeed wrote that he was a radical muslim and I quoted you above.
He wrote for the all the world to see that he spent two years in a Muslim school and two years in a Catholic school when he was less than 10 years old.

I really don’t understand what you are getting at?  You have made brad sweeping statement about his roots in Islam,yet you have said nothing about his mother’s roots.  Why? Are you trying to tie him and his name to terrorists?  Because that is the implication by the title of the thread and the failed smear attempt by Insight and the repetition here on this site.  You, yourself made several statements on this thread that Barack is a radical muslim and then later claim his father is a radical muslim with not one scintilla of proof.

So, yes, Zsa Zsa I don’t know what your point is.

It appears that you’re now willing to admit that everything that Goon said in the original post was correct, puzzled.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Man Whitless, I have no idea where you got that?  I asked for explanation and proof, of which there is none, just a typical rightie smear.

Where’s the source? Whitless?

You just admitted that.  Obama’s history is in his Wiki entry.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Where’s the source? Whitless?

Puzzlefeet on January 22, 2007 at 10:41 pm

Source? What source. Where. Ohhh the nonexistant source.

What history?  That he is a radical muslim?  Hardly. Try again.

Is that what this is about, whether Obama’s stepfather was a practicing muslim or a non-practicing one?

We should vote for the guy without knowing his background?

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Whitless writes: 

Really???? 
Let’s just take a look at what Goon submitted from his auntie (unattributed as well:

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim.

He is quick to point out that, “He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.”

Osama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.  Wahabism is the radical teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world.

Oh and there’s this doozy: 

Since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when seeking major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.

But lookie lookie what I did find on Wiki, an actual quote from Senator Obama about his religious side:

I was drawn to the power of the African American religious tradition to spur social change. [...] In the history of these struggles, I was able to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death; rather, it was an active, palpable agent in the world. [...] It was because of these newfound understandings–that religious commitment did not require me to suspend critical thinking, disengage from the battle for economic and social justice, or otherwise retreat from the world that I knew and loved–that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of Christ one day and be baptized. It came about as a choice and not an epiphany; the questions I had did not magically disappear. But kneeling beneath that cross on the South Side of Chicago, I felt God’s spirit beckoning me. I submitted myself to His will, and dedicated myself to discovering His truth.

But let’s not let the facts get in the way of a really bad swift boat attempt.  Now it’s your turn Whitless.

Whitless writes

Puzzlefeet is now quoting herself.

But let’s not let the facts get in the way of a really bad swift boat attempt.

“Swift boat attempt” means telling the truth about one’s opponent.

Why don’t you want us to know about his muslim past?

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

We should vote for the guy without knowing his background?

The Whistler on January 22, 2007 at 10:28 pm

Man oh man what a lie. You would never vote for a guy like Obama. Cut the crap Whistler.

Man oh man what a lie. You would never vote for a guy like Obama. Cut the crap Whistler.

He didn’t say that he would.

Learn to read and cut the crap yourself.

But let’s not let the facts get in the way of a really bad swift boat attempt.  Now it’s your turn Whitless.

Obama’s anecdotal description is not a fact; it might very well be a piece of self-serving propaganda, requiring outside confirmation from several uninvolved sources to qualify it as “fact”.  Try again.

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Whitless, what muslim past would that be?  Hmmm… you directed me to Wiki for the facts that supported the entry written by Goon.  There was no supporting information as you claimed there would be.

So now please feel to describe his muslim past for me with your sources, since you guys are all about knowing the sources.

Hey r108, how about naming some of those sources?  Maybe you can get Curt over at Flopping Aces to do some crackerjack reporting to find those sources used in the Insight article.

# ^ Obama (1995), pp. 30-31. For details of Obama’s early primary schooling see Obama (1995), p. 154, which begins: “In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school, two years at a Catholic school...”

From the Wiki article.  I thought you already conceded that he had attended a muslim school?

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

He didn’t say that he would.

Learn to read and cut the crap yourself.

likwidshoe on January 22, 2007 at 11:51 pm

Ohh yea!!!!! what is this?
We should vote for the guy without knowing his background?
The Whistler on January 22, 2007 at 10:28 pm
Back to you little buddy.

I find it terribly amusing that those who regularly castigate devout Christians, are now defending the purported Christianity of Barack Obama.  Never mind that this is the same church which we earlier noted had prominently promoted its Kwanza services, both on its outside billboard and on its website, but had nothing to say about any Christmas services.

Be all that as it may, the junionr Senator from Illinois (very, very junior!) has yet to utter anything at all substantive about how he proposes to deal with the War on Islamist terrorism, international trade, Iran’s quest for nuclear weapons, North Korea’s possession thereof, growth in our economy and the tax policies necessary to sustain that growth, Social Security, Medicare, and PBG funding (or lack thereof), immigration, border security, the global economy and the continued growth in the world’s need for energy, healthcare, the corruption and ineptitude of the United Nations, the Israeli-Palestinian issue, the spread of Islamist terrorism in Africa, Sarbanes-Oxley reform, offshore drilling (and ANWAR), substantive tax reform, “looser pays” tort reform, or Taiwan and the price of tea in China.

When Mr. Obama has taken time to address even half of these concerns, and develop cogent and thoughtful policy position on them, then, maybe, he should be taken seriously.

In the meantime, those who would support his presidential bid without having the faintest idea what his position is on an of the important issues of the day, ought to be barred from voting themselves, based solely on their stupidity.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

B1 Perhaps you should take just a bit of time away from your blogging and read some of his speeches or even his latest book if you want to know where he stand.  You don’t want to know where he stands cuz your mind is already made up.  So stop with the “where he stands” meme.  Do the research,it’s readily available for the discerning mind.

It is you who needs to have his voting card rejected since you rely on what you read in a non-sourced article by a rightie rag.  Stupidity is running amok with you B1.

Puzzle,

How good of you to respond.  I had you specifically in mind when I wrote that comment above.

Actually, of course, Junior has offered no substantive policy alternatives to any of the issues I listed, and certainly not to any of the economic ones, nor to the country’s overall efforts against Islamist terrorism.  It would appear that “stealth” will be the tactic of choice among Democrats as we move into ‘08.  No great surprise there. 

Still, as you yourself noted earlier on another thread, the upcoming campaign season should be hugely entertaining, with Republican candidates talking about national security issues, while Snow White and the Severn Dwarfs stumble all over each other to avoid discussing not only legitimate security issues but the negative economic effects of their respective plans to raise Americans’ taxes as well.

Incidentally, if your “discerning” mind thinks I am being to harshly partisan for pointing out young Mr. Obama’s lack of substance and experience, wait til I start in on Hillary.  I never did put much faith in that “two for the price of one” nonsense back during the 1990’s.  After all, nobody had elected her to anything.  And between pilfering all those purloined FBI files, illegally firing the White House Travel Office personnel, cleaning out Vince Foster’s White House office before the FBI showed up, and playing hide and seek with the Rose Law Firm’s subpoenaed billing records, it’s hard to see how she Hillary could have acquired any practical, and legal, experience at executive governance.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Then stop smearing the guy. Find something tangible and criticize him. Not what he did as a child. That is stooping very low.

Like many have said its all over the internet and talk Radio. Many have said they believe its the Clinton’s and them getting nervous their precious Hillary might not get the nomination. With out this story I still think there is nothing to Barak Hussein Obama, the man is nothing more than a pretty face and is very transparent.

Check out:
Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World

Then stop smearing the guy. Find something tangible and criticize him. Not what he did as a child. That is stooping very low.

Like many have said its all over the internet and talk Radio. Many have said they believe its the Clinton’s and them getting nervous their precious Hillary might not get the nomination. With out this story I still think there is nothing to Barak Hussein Obama, the man is nothing more than a pretty face and is very transparent.

Check out:
Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World

You can say that again.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

With out this story I still think there is nothing to Barak Hussein Obama, the man is nothing more than a pretty face and is very transparent.
goon on January 24, 2007 at 05:59 am

If there is nothing Barak Hussein Obama then why do you feel threatened by his candidacy?

Be all that as it may, the ex governor of Texas and now president of the US GW Bush had yet to utter anything at all substantive about how he proposedto deal with the War on Islamist terrorism, international trade, Iran’s quest for nuclear weapons, North Korea’s possession thereof, growth in our economy and the tax policies necessary to sustain that growth, Social Security, Medicare, and PBG funding (or lack thereof), immigration, border security, the global economy and the continued growth in the world’s need for energy, healthcare, the corruption and ineptitude of the United Nations, the Israeli-Palestinian issue, the spread of Islamist terrorism in Africa, Sarbanes-Oxley reform, offshore drilling (and ANWAR), substantive tax reform, “looser pays” tort reform, or Taiwan and the price of tea in China, prior to his running for the republican nomination.
Yet you never examined GW Bushs’ childhood with the same microscope you are examining Obama.
Once again,why do you feel threatened by this guy?

Ellinas, IF anyone seems to be threatened by Obamas candidacy it would be that he is against everything that we believe our country’s leader should be about…

Politically, Obama has Nothing that I support. Not one thing so far…

Ellinas Shot back: Be all that as it may, the ex governor of Texas and now president of the US GW Bush had yet to utter anything at all substantive about how he proposedto deal with the War on Islamist terrorism, international trade, Iran’s quest for nuclear weapons, North Korea’s possession thereof, growth in our economy and the tax policies necessary to sustain that growth, Social Security, Medicare, and PBG funding (or lack thereof), immigration, border security, the global economy and the continued growth in the world’s need for energy, healthcare, the corruption and ineptitude of the United Nations, the Israeli-Palestinian issue, the spread of Islamist terrorism in Africa, Sarbanes-Oxley reform, offshore drilling (and ANWAR), substantive tax reform, “looser pays” tort reform, or Taiwan and the price of tea in China, prior to his running for the republican nomination.
Yet you never examined GW Bushs’ childhood with the same microscope you are examining Obama.
Once again,why do you feel threatened by this guy?

What do lefties not understand, first off the man is way to fricken liberal for me. second off the man is dishonest, first he smokes but won’t admit to it second he had a very shady realestate deal, basically a man bought half of his land for house, now that man is in jail. Ethics. Of course those things don’t matter to left wingers. They matter to me. Actually I would be willing to bet if Hillary or obama get elected to the presidencey there will be way more problems than we are experiencing now, esepcially with immigration and with fighting terrorism. Democrats think oh if we just talk to them.

Whatever, if you want to live in a fantasy world go ahead.
I question why you hangout/troll on a Republican leaning blog, it seems like a waste of time. I mean seriously all you do is argue with people that don’t see the world from you point of view. But by all means keep posting your retorts and I will defile them when I get a chance.

Check out:
Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World

ellinas,

While I am delighted to see that your thought enough of my comment to cut and paste from it wholesale, I am disappointed that you chose to use my words to spread an obvious falsehood.

Except for those issues pertaining to the events of 9-11 (Islamist terrorism, Iraq, etc.) presidential candidate George W. Bush addressed nearly all the issues I listed (well, I couldn’t find anything about the price of tea.).  That’s precisely why I originally chose those issues.  Taxes, trade, entitlement spending, the dangerous state of our military defenses, the nation’s faltering economy, all those issues were discussed, very publicly.  Of course, if you chose not to listen, that’s your own fault, not the fault of Mr. Bush.

The events of 9-11, as James Carville famously noted, changed everything.  And to his credit, Mr. Bush took those events to be an act of war, unlike his predecessor and his 2000 electoral opponent who both saw Islamist terrorist attacks as some sort of international law enforcement issue.

No doubt, Illinois’ very junior Senator will be forced to offer more detailed policy positions on issues as the campaign progresses, though it is already clear that doing so is the very last thing he wants to do.

Like Goon and Zsa Zsa, and most other rational, thoughtful individuals, I can’t imagine a set of circumstances where I could support an Obama candidacy, even grudgingly.  The pitifully little legislative record he has indicates that he is even more to the left on most issues than Hillary pretends to be.  Coupled with his obvious lack of any executive experience, that’s more than sufficient reason to dismiss his candidacy… even if I thought he was serious.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Like Goon and Zsa Zsa, and most other rational, thoughtful individuals, I can’t imagine a set of circumstances where I could support an Obama candidacy, even grudgingly.  The pitifully little legislative record he has indicates that he is even more to the left on most issues than Hillary pretends to be.  Coupled with his obvious lack of any executive experience, that’s more than sufficient reason to dismiss his candidacy… even if I thought he was serious.

That is well said I don’t see any way I am voting for Obama or Hillary. Both of them are way too extreme for my liking.

Check out:
Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World

Wistler says:

aNON, why don’t you try Google before you cast aspersions?

I tried google on the sourceless DIRECT quote on the e-mail above which Goon says describes “the real Barack Obama”.  I couldn’t find the source of it. Do you yourself know the source of said direct quote?

...............price of tea in China, prior to his running for the republican nomination. Yet you never examined GW Bushs’ childhood with the same microscope you are examining Obama.
Once again,why do you feel threatened by this guy?
ellinas on January 24, 2007 at 09:34 am

Except for those issues pertaining to the events of 9-11 (Islamist terrorism, Iraq, etc.) presidential candidate George W. Bush addressed nearly all the issues I listed
Bat One on January 24, 2007 at 11:13 am

Bat One for your convinience I underlined what I said about GW Bush, and how you responded.
The key word is “prior”

I question why you hangout/troll on a Republican leaning blog, it seems like a waste of time. I mean seriously all you do is argue with people that don’t see the world from you point of view. But by all means keep posting your retorts and I will defile them when I get a chance.
goon on January 24, 2007 at 10:42 am

Goon I hangout/troll on a republican blog, because in spite of my different point of view, I developed an affinity and healthy respect for you guys. Apart from our political differences I think that you all are swell people,and I would not mind having a cold one (beer) with any of you. I do not hate any of you.
I also find it challenging and entertaining having to field off attacks from all directions. The mental stimulus I get from debating/arguing with you guys is of extreme value to me and for that I owe gratitude to all of you here at Say Anything.

You’re making it real hard to dislike you E.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

You’re making it real hard to dislike you E.
The Whistler on January 24, 2007 at 07:20 pm

Well, thats how I feel.

Ellinas, What makes you think we would not take a good long look ar GWB’s childhood and past record?…

Ellinas, What makes you think we would not take a good long look ar GWB’s childhood and past record?…
Zsa Zsa on January 24, 2007 at 08:30 pm

Well did you?

Furthermore when I posted on this blog That GW Bush as a young man was a boozer and user of certain mind altering chemicals (drugs) Robert108 was all over me calling me a lier etc. etc.,even though we all know that GW Bush himself admitted as much.

Goon I hangout/troll on a republican blog, because in spite of my different point of view, I developed an affinity and healthy respect for you guys. Apart from our political differences I think that you all are swell people,and I would not mind having a cold one (beer) with any of you. I do not hate any of you.
I also find it challenging and entertaining having to field off attacks from all directions. The mental stimulus I get from debating/arguing with you guys is of extreme value to me and for that I owe gratitude to all of you here at Say Anything.

Yeah I guess I can see your point to coming into a GOP forum. Its kind of like going into the lion’s den. I suppose we can agree to disagree.

Check out:
Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World

Ellinas, WAS is the key word! AND unlike many other candidates. He told the Truth.

ellinas,

Is there a particular point you’re trying to make now, in 2007, about the either the 2000 or the 2004 elections? 

One of the many positives about the sort of quiet Evangelical Christian faith of the President and Mrs. Bush which you liberals so often disparage, is that it provides strength to help resist the sorts of temptations you mention from Mr. Bush’s youth.  I shouldn’t need to point out that had Mr. Bush’s predecessor found that same sort of faith and strength, he might very likely not been impeached, and none of us would have ever heard of Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, Katherine Willy, Gennifer Flowers, Juanita Brodderick, or Anita Thomas.

Mr. Bush isn’t going to be President after January 2009.  No matter what.  And with any sort of good fortune, neither will Barack Hussein Obama.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

ellinas: It should be obvious that GWB’s childhood schooling is of no particular interest, because he wasn’t subjected to extremist Islamic indoctrination(which is what goes on in madrassas) in his early childhood.  Hussen Obama, on the other hand, was subjected to just that, and it goes to his fitness to be our President, or even a Senator, IMO.

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That should be “Hussein Obama”.

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It should be obvious that GWB’s childhood schooling is of no particular interest

I think its funny when the left calls Bush a dummy when he got better grades than Kerry. I believe also Goron as well.

Check out:
Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World

I believe also Goron as well.
goon on January 25, 2007 at 01:14 am

Goron?

Al Gore, hence, Goron.

Check out:
Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World

what next? ..OMG, Barrack Hurrein Obama is Catholic! wait he’s a non-practicing Baptist! ..wait, he’s a non-practicing Methodist! ...wait, he’s an Atheist?!

“I was not raised in a particularly religious household, as undoubtedly many in the audience were. My father, who returned to Kenya when I was just 2, was born Muslim but as an adult became an atheist,” he said. “My mother, whose parents were non-practicing Baptists and Methodists, was probably one of the most spiritual and kindest people I’ve ever known, but grew up with a healthy skepticism of organized religion herself. As a consequence, so did I.”

I actually think public schools here in the U.S. should be like the public school in Indonesia Obama attended, in the sinse that kids have the chance of studying divinity.

Jan. 25, 2007 — An ABC News producer and crew visited the school in Jakarta, Indonesia, attended by Sen. Barack Obama in his youth and found it to be a normal government public school without even a hint of the extremist elements reported by various conservative news outlets in the last week.

“These rumors about our school being an Islamic extremist school are completely incorrect,” assistant headmaster Akhmad Solihim told ABC News. “We are a regular public school.”

Solihim confirmed that Obama attended the school as a child, before he transferred to a local Catholic school. The school featured both boy and girl students, basketball, and classes in many subjects. A class in Islam was matched by one in Christianity, complete with teachings from the New Testament, a sign featuring the Lord’s Prayer and a painting of Jesus. Nothing seemed out of the ordinary. One student had a SpongeBob SquarePants bookbag.

though I would maybe put off teaching divinity in plublic schools ‘til about High School.

Jan. 25, 2007 — An ABC News producer and crew visited the school in Jakarta, Indonesia, attended by Sen. Barack Obama in his youth and found it to be a normal government public school without even a hint of the extremist elements reported by various conservative news outlets in the last week.

“These rumors about our school being an Islamic extremist school are completely incorrect,” assistant headmaster Akhmad Solihim told ABC News. “We are a regular public school.”

Solihim confirmed that Obama attended the school as a child, before he transferred to a local Catholic school. The school featured both boy and girl students, basketball, and classes in many subjects. A class in Islam was matched by one in Christianity, complete with teachings from the New Testament, a sign featuring the Lord’s Prayer and a painting of Jesus. Nothing seemed out of the ordinary. One student had a SpongeBob SquarePants bookbag.

First off that is fine, nothing more than propaganda from the Left Wing MSM. ABC is nothing more than a liberial mouth piece for the DNC. I expect this kind of an answer. Seems as if the Clintons released this information on Barak Hussein Obama.

Check out:
Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World

...the extremist elements reported by various conservative news outlets in the last week.

This is a lie, of course, since the source was the Clinton campaign.  What was reported was the Clinton information about Hussein Obama.

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