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Friday, March 09, 2007

The “Quagmire” that isn’t

In other under-reported news today, the surge in Iraq continues to bear fruit:
Insurgent leader nabbed in Iraq raid

By LAUREN FRAYER, Associated Press Writer 17 minutes ago


BAGHDAD - The leader of the al-Qaida-affiliated Islamic State of

Iraq was captured Friday in a raid west of Baghdad — his identity revealed by a fellow insurgent detained with him, an Iraqi military spokesman said.

Abu Omar al-Baghdadi was captured in a raid in

Abu Ghraib on the western outskirts of Baghdad, said Brig. Gen. Qassim al-Moussawi, spokesman of the Baghdad security operation. U.S. officials had no confirmation of the capture.

“One of the terrorists who was arrested with him confessed that the one in our hands is al-Baghdadi,” al-Moussawi said.

Al-Baghdadi has been identified in statements posted on Islamic extremist Web sites as the head of the Islamic State, which was proclaimed last year after the death of the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.


Zarqawi’s successor captured. Nothing to see here. Move along, move along.

Hat Tip: LGF

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Rodney Graves

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This will get little play because it’s a good story.
It will get pushed ashide for a car bomb story.


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goon on March 9, 2007 at 04:38 pm

Goon,

You know it.  Good news does not fit the MSM’s preferred narrative.  Damn the facts, they’ve got FEELINGS.

Out Here
Rodney Graves


Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on March 9, 2007 at 04:52 pm

No, guys, this is what they will run with instead.

TEHRAN, March 9 (Xinhua)—Iranian officials on Friday urged U.S.-led coalition forces to withdraw from Iraq, just one day before an international conference on Iraq’s security in Baghdad.

Judiciary Chief Ayatollah Hashemi Shahroudi said that “prompt withdrawal of occupiers” from Iraq would be a fundamental step toward establishment of tranquility in Iraq, the official IRNA news agency reported.

“Occupiers have a role in spreading insecurity and terror in Iraq to justify their illegitimate presence there,” Shahroudi, who is on a visit to Jakarta, was quoted as telling Indonesian House of Representatives Speaker Agung Laksono.

The Iranian official made the remarks before representatives from Iraq’s Arab neighbors as well as Iran, Turkey, the five permanent members of the UN Security Council and the Arab League are heading for Baghdad for the regional security meeting on Saturday.

Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati, chief of Iran’s powerful Guardian Council, on Friday accused the United States and Britain of being responsible for growing deaths of Iraqi civilians, the Fars News Agency reported.

“We believe that the terrorists and those covered and backed by the U.S. and Britain are responsible for committing crimes and triggering differences between Shiite and Sunni Muslims in Iraq,” Jannati was quoted as saying at a prayer sermon in Tehran.

He said that the security meeting was aimed at establishing a U.S.-favored administration in Iraq.

Bet on it!


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2Hotel9 on March 9, 2007 at 06:45 pm

This will get little play because it’s a good story.

Good call goon...Google News has only 259 listings for the story as I type this.


"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced if the nation doesn’t want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
Cicero, 55 BC

MikeAdamson on March 9, 2007 at 07:43 pm

this link.


"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced if the nation doesn’t want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
Cicero, 55 BC

MikeAdamson on March 9, 2007 at 07:45 pm

Funny, Mike, I have 9 seperate news services on 2 different RSS feeds and the only one with this story is Xinhua out of China. Perhaps you should stop getting your news homogenized and pasturized, go to as many different sources as possible. And why is this story nowhere to be found?

Petition holds US fully responsible for Iraq crisis
Iraqi Signatories demand speedy withdrawal of coalition forces from country

Daily Star staff
Saturday, March 10, 2007

BEIRUT: A number of Iraqi politicians, academics and intellectuals signed on Friday a petition that calls for a speedy US withdrawal from Iraq and an end to the current political process installed by “the occupation.” In a joint communique, the signatories outlined a 20-point initiative that enshrines “comprehensive and independent programs for the elaboration of a realistic constitution” for a two-year transitional period that will follow the occupation.

The proposal also includes elaborate plans for “the reconstruction of Iraq, and for the fields of oil, the military, the Kurdish situation, compensations and the country’s debt, etc.”

The petition was announced by Khaireddine Haseeb, director general of the Center for Arab Unity Studies, during a meeting at The Bristol Hotel in Beirut.

“The situation in our country is fast deteriorating, especially since the occupation in April 2003,” the statement said. “Sectarianism is rife, militias proliferate and bribery, corruption and organized crime are rampant. Violence fills the streets and the state lost its aura as its institutions and services unravelled.

“We place the responsibility for the current situation in Iraq, squarely on the shoulders of the US. The latter led a so-called international coalition against our country, under false pretenses, such as weapons of mass destruction and links to international terror, and it is therefore responsible, under international law, for the current situation in Iraq.”

In the petition, the signatories called for scrapping “all the military, security, political or economic agreements, that have been signed to force our country to accept, under any pretext, foreign military bases on its soil.”

Outlining a new political framework, the petition called for “ending the political process launched by the occupation.”

The signatories considered all “resistance activities against occupation, whether peaceful or armed, a legitimate national struggle, sanctioned by international law and all legal and religious norms.”

However, they condemned “all terrorist activities that target innocent civilians.”

The petition said it considered “the Iraqi people as the legitimate source of authority in the country.” It stressed “Iraq [is] an inalienable part of the Arab nation, and [emphasized] its Arab and Islamic identity,” and confirmed that “the Iraqi people are made up of two main ethnicities, Arab and Kurdish, as well as Turkmen and other groups.”

The signatories reaffirmed their commitment “to diversity and ideological, cultural, social, political as well as religious pluralism, and commitment to a permanent peaceful political governance system.”

The petition called for “a two-year transitional period to start right after the end of occupation. During this transitional period, an Iraqi national government, made up of independent and non-partisan experts, will steer the country toward peace.”
http://www.dailystar.com.lb

Under the plan, the transitional government will “follow a reasonable oil policy; reviewing all oil agreements concluded under occupation, on account that they violate Resolutions 1483 and 1546, and all bilateral agreements concluded by the Kurdish regional authorities ... between 1991 and 2003.”

The petition said the interim prime minister and minister “will not run in any elections to ensure their neutrality, honesty and objectivity.”

It also called for the establishment of a Consultative Council of up to 150 members from various political and social groups with the task of helping the interim government write a new electoral law and a ruling regulating political parties “based on the principles of citizenship, national unity and human rights.”

“Elections will take place during the second year of the transitional period under the supervision of the UN, the Arab League, the EU, the Islamic Conference Organization, the Arab Organization for Human Rights and Amnesty International and others,” the petition said.

“Also in the second year of the transitional period, the new Parliament will write a draft constitution based on the draft written by this statement’s signatories, and then submitted to referendum for public approval.”

The signatories said the interim government “will commit itself to using only peaceful means, and reject the use of force to solve problems that arise between Iraq and Arab, or neighboring countries.”

The petition called for considering “all political, religious or sectarian behavior that foments sedition and division among the people, as a crime tantamount to high treason.”

The signatories said they would seek to “enshrine this in the Iraqi constitution and enact a law that bans sectarianism and holds to account anyone who promotes or conceals it.”

The petition also stressed, “the Palestinian cause is the primary and central cause of all Arabs and Muslims, and Iraq is duty-bound, bilaterally and in cooperation with other Arab states, to offer all forms of support to the Palestinian people to allow them to achieve their aims and determine their own fate.”

It said the interim government would be tasked with forming “an independent Judicial Council, staffed by legal Iraqi and neutral international experts, to look into all complaints regarding crimes against humanity and human-rights violations, during and before the occupation.” - The Daily Star

Funny what you can find if you look for your self.


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2Hotel9 on March 9, 2007 at 07:58 pm

Oh, and notice how these “Iraqi politicians” are not actually in Iraq, working as part of the freely elected government of Iraq. Ain’t that special?


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2Hotel9 on March 9, 2007 at 08:00 pm

Rod,

‘course not—the Leftists are too busy LOSING the war, what are you trying to do anyways… WIN?

Troublemaker.


...for great justice

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Move_Zig on March 9, 2007 at 09:03 pm

Ya the MSM could be reporting on how we have lost 26 soldiers and 520 Iraqis have been killed in the last 9 days, but wait....that might take away from all the good news coming out of Iraq


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on March 9, 2007 at 09:33 pm

Mark D,

The ONLY sacrifice acceptable upon the altar of liberty is the blood of those willing to stand and fight.  Victory is seldom cheap, it’s cost second only to that of defeat.

Pay now, or pay with compounded interest later, but pay we will.

Out Here
Rodney Graves


Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on March 9, 2007 at 11:02 pm

Rod,

If I may…

I prefer sacrificing the BAD guys on the altar of liberty.  Just like the Japs were honored and glad to die for their ancestors…

Our Marine Corps forebears (with the help of our sister services) made them honorable and glad..

Kinda like the line growled out by Sean Connery in his thick Scottish brogue:

Luuuzers always whine aboot dooing their best. 

Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.


...for great justice

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Move_Zig on March 9, 2007 at 11:51 pm

2Hotel9:

the Palestinian cause is the primary and central cause of all Arabs and Muslims, and Iraq is duty-bound, bilaterally and in cooperation with other Arab states, to offer all forms of support to the Palestinian people to allow them to achieve their aims and determine their own fate.”

This part is pretty special… short bus special. 

Give me your resources so I can determine my own fate.

Carrick on March 10, 2007 at 05:42 am

Carrick, is that a request for a news source list, or rhetorical? Cause I can turn out a short list now, and a more extensive one this evening.
Arab Times.
Xinhua from Mainland China.
Iranian news service, you may want to get it in original and run your own trans program on it
From Kashmir/Pakistan, they get the jump on a lot of people.
Beriuts daily fishwrap.
And a fairly balanced look at Asia.

I got to go work on a roof before the rain hits here, throw some more later.


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2Hotel9 on March 10, 2007 at 06:13 am

I don’t quite get your point Carrick. The Palestinians have not been allowed by Israel (and it’s Security Council veto wielding buddy) to form a completely independent state with the boundaries that were decided by any one of many UN proposals. This is all established fact.

This is apparently still an issue that is important to many Arabs. (Which may seem hypocritical considering many of Egypt, Jordan and Syria’s, and most of the other Arab states, actions from 1948 onwards.)


“All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.”
“Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.” —George Orwell

Anarchist Vegetarian on March 10, 2007 at 06:28 am

The Palestinians have not been allowed by Israel (and it’s Security Council veto wielding buddy) to form a completely independent state with the boundaries that were decided by any one of many UN proposals. This is all established fact.

HORSEFEATHERS!

The petulant Progressives perennial pity party for poor Palestinians is hardly worthy of much attention at all, so here’s the short version:

Offered a Palestinian state, both at Camp David and as part of the Oslo “Peace Process,” the Palestinians Nobel-wielding terrorist murderer-in-charge, Yassir Arafat, turned down the offers in favor of “intifada.”

When the Israelis acceded to Palestinian demands and removed themselves and their settlers from Gaza, the dysfunctional Palestinians continued the carnage amongst themselves.  The greenhouses, purchased for the Palestinians by American Jewish contributions were ransacked and plundered.  The abandoned synagogues and office buildings were similarly trashed instead of being converted into usable, profitable office space.

The US Supreme Court has upheld a lower court ruling that there is no Palestinian government with the usual sovereignty and rights afforded a real government (thanks largely to the legal stupidity of radical attorney, Ramsey Clark).  The so-called Palestinian Authority is a pathetic joke.  Hamas and Fatah can’t stop shooting at each other for more than a day or two, though there is precious little left to fight over any more.

If the Palestinians are seriously interested in their own state and their own government, they are going to have to first show that they can manage such an endeavor.  So far, they are nowhere near close to doing so.

As for Israel, it should be noted that Palestinian Arabs are afforded far more rights, far more economic opportunity, far more personal and religious freedom, in Israel than they are anywhere else… including any Arab country, Gaza, or the Palestinian-controlled West Bank.

A Palestinian state?  They don’t deserve one.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on March 10, 2007 at 08:02 am

I’m BACK! Only managed to get the roof tarped before it started raining.

Here are a few more. For the skinny on South Tejas and Gulf we got Corpus Christi covered. Love that anti-PC name.

For that Mediterranean flavor we got AKI.

And not to short sheet our brothers and sisters on the Aegaen.

Lets us hop across a few miles and a day to read one of Nippon’s more balanced dailys.

A quick trip across the SJ brings us to Dong-a Ilbo, please to keep the crude jokes to a minimum.

DEBKA is always a good read, plenty of well sourced material.

And I’ll end this list with the biggest little paper around,GThas a massive overseas readership.

Hope everyone can use some or all of these. I’ll throw more later.


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2Hotel9 on March 10, 2007 at 08:23 am

Palestinian-controlled West Bank

LOL
So should Israel remove themselves from the West bank and return to the 1967 borders? Isn’t that what the Palestinians want?
Take a good look at the map and you tell me whom controls the West Bank.

Wiki Map


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on March 10, 2007 at 08:39 am

Everytime the Arab League has attacked Israel they have had the living shit kicked out of them by a bunch of JOOOS. That is why the JOOOS control the West Bank and Golan, Muslims are not man enough to take it away from them.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!


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2Hotel9 on March 10, 2007 at 09:30 am

If the Israelis won the Golan Heights and the West Bank, in a war in which they were attacked, why should anyone expect them to give those territories back to people who used them to attack Israel in the first place?

The Sinai was given back to the Egyptians (who could have easily managed to lose the Suez Canal, Alexandria, Cairo, and the rest of Egypt proper) only when the Egyptians signed a peace treaty with Israel formally recognizing the state of Israel and that state’s right to exist.  If the dysfunctional Palestinians want control of the West Bank (or the Syrians, the Golan Heights), let them do the same.

Of course, the Palestinians do not have a government, either in a practical or a legalistic and formal sense of the word (see above).  But if they should ever manage to convince themselves that war with Israel isn’t a very productive or rewarding enterprise…


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on March 10, 2007 at 11:46 am

spark? Do you know any of the crew at brainstrubator? Comments requires that I copy the word in the box. There is no word in the box, therefore it want accept my comment. HELP!!!


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2Hotel9 on March 10, 2007 at 01:15 pm

Bat

If the Israelis won the Golan Heights and the West Bank, in a war in which they were attacked, why should anyone expect them to give those territories back to people who used them to attack Israel in the first place?

Do preemptive wars count?

Wiki

Yahoo.... Iraq is ours.....


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on March 10, 2007 at 01:22 pm

Above link didn’t work

Israel launched a pre-emptive attack on Egypt’s airforce fearing an imminent invasion by Egypt.

Wiki


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on March 10, 2007 at 01:59 pm

Arab League WAS preparing to strike Israel on 3 fronts, Egypt being the strongest though less willing. Strikes against Egyptian military forces initiated the collapse of the Arab League forces. Excellent military strategy.

And those dirty JOOOS kicked the living shit out of ALL the Arab League forces, yet again.


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2Hotel9 on March 10, 2007 at 02:05 pm

AV:

I don’t quite get your point Carrick. The Palestinians have not been allowed by Israel (and it’s Security Council veto wielding buddy) to form a completely independent state with the boundaries that were decided by any one of many UN proposals.

Your entire comment amounts to a non sequitor. I was responding to the ridiculous notion that Palenstians expect everybody else’s resources in order allow them to self determine!  What a bunch of fart-munchers.

Carrick on March 10, 2007 at 08:13 pm

2H9, the question was rhetorical.  I’m going to read your links in the morning though!  Once I get some coffee that is…

Today I was dealing with a trailer full of stone that lost two tires on one side this last week, while my wife was hauling the rock back… quite a mess…

Carrick on March 10, 2007 at 08:31 pm

I hate changing tires!!!!!!! My stepfather ran a 24hr roadservice operation when I was a teenager and I worked nights, days, weekends changing 1100-20s, 900-20s, axle bearings, chasing electrical ghosts, you name it.

Not a prob on the news links. Every couple of months I try to throw as many different links as possible, just on the off chance people will actually go to some place other than NBC,CBS,ABC,CNN,FOX, et al.

And watch out for that time warp! It already smacked us around!


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2Hotel9 on March 10, 2007 at 08:54 pm

Actually, it was the wheels that came off.  My wife borrowed my father-in-law’s trailer, and it turned out the lug-nuts had come loose.  The lug bolts ended up galling into the wheels until the back wheel failed.  It shot off the trailer and smashed up somebody’s sign.  My wife didn’t notice that, but within a mile, the other wheel on that side came off, and she was left dragging the trailer on the axles on that side.

Fortunately she has cat-like instincts so she got the trailer off the road before any other damage was done.  She was hauling 3 1/2 tons of rock at the time (the trailer should have had no trouble with that load), so it was fortunate the trailer didn’t flip.  Don’t want to go into the whole sorry story, just say it was a hairy mess getting the trailer unloaded, moved to a repair shop 200-miles from home and repaired well enough to get it and the rock home.

Carrick on March 11, 2007 at 07:29 am

That could have been a lot worse! Was it a load of gravel, or cut stone?


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2Hotel9 on March 11, 2007 at 07:56 am

Actually it was Alabama blue flagstone on palettes.  Could have been much worse, had the trailer failed on a bad spot on those twisty Alabama roads.

Carrick on March 11, 2007 at 08:04 am
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Proof on March 11, 2007 at 08:09 am

Damn! We are going to be using that to do a diningroom and kitchen floor this summer. That patio job I worked this fall was done with red and yellow sandstone from Colorado.

It would have taken only one pallet shifting to have made that a major disaster. The landscape supplier we deal with had an entire tractor trailer load of palleted sandstone tip over while delivering to a job site last summer, the portside wheels went of the driveway and sank, it just held there for about 15 minutes, then one pallet broke open and over she went. That was a mess!


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2Hotel9 on March 11, 2007 at 08:24 am
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