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Tuesday, May 06, 2008

The Continuing Flouride Controversy

The benefit and safety of flouride in our water system and in other products e.g. toothpaste has been hotly debated over the years.  This subject is revisted in WND’s Fluoride: Miracle drug or toxic-waste killer?

From Pennsylvania to Nebraska and from Europe to New Zealand, there is growing and fierce opposition to plans to fluoridate public drinking water, fueled by a battery of shocking new studies that seriously question a practice routine among U.S. municipalities for nearly the last 50 years

Although the American Dental Association and CDC are avid proponents of flouride there is a growing body of contrary evidence.

A study released in February by the Collaborative on Health and the Environments Learning and Development Disabilities Initiative found excessive ingestion of fluoride can decrease thyroid hormone levels. It also cited a recent Chinese study that links lower IQ levels in children with fluoridated drinking water.

In 2006, the National Academy of Sciences found the Environmental Protection Agency’s maximum standard for fluoride of 4 milligrams per liter could cause health problems such as dental fluorosis and weakened bones over a lifetime of consumption.

The EPA’s Headquarters Professionals Union, made up of scientists, lawyers and other professionals, also now opposes community fluoridation.

In January, the New York State Dental Journal reported fluoride overexposure is resulting in children developing tooth disorders including white spots, brownish discoloration and pitting. It also warned children 6 months to 3 years should consume no more than ¼ of a gram of fluoride per day – the equivalent of one 8 ounce glass of water in a fluoridated community.

Sometime ago I read that flouride was a waste product from some manufacturing product and the flouride promotion as a dental aid was just a scheme for disposing of it.

The fluoride added to public drinking water is actually fluorosilic acid. It is described by critics as an industrial waste product. Supporters prefer to call it an industry byproduct. Most of it has come from Florida’s phosphate fertilizer industry.

So is flouride safe or not?  Although the government has confirmed its use, the government has been wrong before so it’s probably wise to limit ones exposure to flouride.

In 1965, a landmark year in the fluoridation debate, the federal government determined fluoride was safe in drinking water at levels as high as 4 ppm. Officially, that is still the government’s threshold of safety on the high side. Yet, in 2006, the National Research Council determined 4 ppm was unsafe and couldn’t assert with certitude that even half that level was safe.

On the basis of the NRC’s review, the Georgia-based Lillie Center last year filed an ethics complaint against the CDC Division of Oral Health. In its complaint the center charged the CDC with “mislead[ing] the public concerning the results of studies about harm from ingesting fluoride,” and “omit[ting] vital information in its information disseminated to the public concerning vulnerable population groups that are particularly susceptible to harm from fluoride.”

Read the whole thing.

Comments

Oh yeah, beautiful fluoride. It produces brown teeth with white spots. Awesome.

To all of the parents out there: do not let your young children swallow toothpaste. Filter the tapwater. Warn them about the brown teeth they will get if they’re not careful.

likwidshoe on May 6, 2008 at 01:50 pm

Yeah, lik, I distill all my drinking water and use a small amount of baking soda when I brush.  I’m not a child but I still try to avoid flouride as much as I can.


Being liberal is never having to admit you’re wrong

docdave on May 6, 2008 at 02:10 pm

I’m not a child but I still try to avoid flouride as much as I can.

I doubt it matters much for us adults.

It’s the children brushing their teeth before they are six years old who will have to live with brown teeth with white spots for the rest of their lives.

It sucks. I have a mild case of dental fluorosis. Growing up, I had always thought my teeth were dirty, only to be bowled over when I went to the dentist to hear compliments of how clean my teeth were and how I had never had any cavities.

I was a clean kid. It backfired.

likwidshoe on May 6, 2008 at 02:16 pm
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liwkidshoe:  Same problem here.  Brown spots and no cavities!

I know from chemistry class that fluoride is the most ‘electro-negative’ element, the most likely to disrupt an existing chemical bond and insert itself into the molecule.  While this means that it could be absorbed effectively by the teeth in a mouthwash etc, it also means that when consumed its going to be looking for a permanent place to fit in.  It doesn’t make sense that if you drink FL it would make it all the way back up to the teeth - it would certainly bond to something in the digestive or waste elimination systems. 

I dunno, I can’t imagine its healthy but I’m not gonna freak out either.  I’ll just limit my intake of tap water, I’m just not to the point that I’ll make my coffee from bottled water yet.

independent on May 6, 2008 at 03:45 pm

teindependant, lik, brown teeth isn’t the only fluoride concern.  First there are bone fractures..

The results of more than five epidemiological studies indicate increased hip fractures in both naturally and artificially fluoridated areas. The incidence of hip fracture is also increasing more rapidly than can be accounted for by aging of the population. There are numerous studies which undeniably prove that fluoride’s cumulative effect on bone is devastating.

And then there is bone cancer

As acknowledged by the U.S. National Toxicology Program there is a “biological plausibility” of a link between fluoride exposure and osteosarcoma.

And since fluoride slowly accumulates in the body, there are probably yet undetected problematic areas.


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docdave on May 6, 2008 at 04:47 pm
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I know, broken bones, mental decay - I’d really rather not think about it! haha

Who ever thought this was a good idea in the first place?  Go figure, the crazy general in Dr. Strangelove might have been on to something.

How dare they corrupt our precious bodily fluids!

independent on May 6, 2008 at 04:57 pm
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It’s time to stop fluoridation nation-wide and hold our federal officials accountable for continuing fluoridation in the fact of growing scientific evidence of harm and ineffectiveness. Sign the petition here:

http://congress.fluorideaction.net

http://www.FluorideAction.Net

nyscof on May 7, 2008 at 03:46 am

How dare they corrupt our precious bodily fluids!

Thanks General Ripper.

Seriously, I’ve never been a big opponent of it, BUT I don’t see why local people can’t control what goes in their water.


The Debate is over!  Global Whining has been confirmed.


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