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Wednesday, November 28, 2007

The Coming Drawdown in Iraq

Stunning news from the NY Sun:

With the eyes of the world focused on the Middle East peace talks in Annapolis, Md., President Bush’s war tsar, Lieutenant General Douglas Lute, quietly announced that the American and Iraqi governments will start talks early next year to bring about an end to the allied occupation by the close of Mr. Bush’s presidency.

The negotiations will bring to a formal conclusion the U.N. Chapter 7 Security Council involvement in the occupation and administration of Iraq, and are expected to reduce the number of American troops to about 50,000 troops permanently stationed there but largely confined to barracks, from the current 164,000 forces on active duty.

“The basic message here should be clear. Iraq is increasingly able to stand on its own. That’s very good news. But it won’t have to stand alone,” General Lute yesterday told reporters in the White House.

Bringing the war to a close by the end of 2008 will ensure that the next president will face a fait accompli in Iraq, a fact that will further remove from the presidential election the Iraq war as an issue of contention.

Democrats will, of course, try to claim that they forced the troops withdrawals on an obstinately reluctant administration.  But as Ed Morrissey notes,

Given the Democrats’ inability to affect the war strategy, their argument will be rather weak, and they still will have to explain the rush to surrender in the spring of 2007, led by Harry Reid’s declaration of defeat on the Senate floor.

Not to mention the inane ranting of House Democrat leader and supposed military “expert” Jack Murtha, or the similar blather of Senate doofus, Dick Durbin.

If this comes off anywhere near as planned, the flip-flopping by congressional Democrats will be like the floor of the Naha, Okinawa fish market at 5:00 A.M.

Republicans will rightly claim that they remained steadfast in their commitment to victory, that they were the ones who put their faith in General David Petraeus’ strategic “surge” plan and the men and women of the United States military, and that Democrats’ earlier calls for surrender in Iraq only shows that the Dems simply cannot be trusted to effectively guide the country’s defense policies.

Incidentally, Bill Clinton’s latest, attempt at triangulation, stating that he has always been opposed to US actions in Iraq, is hardly likely to help his wife’s candidacy come next November, when close to 2/3 of the US combat forces will be drawn down in Iraq.  The Clintons’ alignment with the hard left radicals won’t sit well with the more rational middle of the electorate.

Comments

What a great move!

The Democrats are finally about to get the guts to not fund the war so, announce that it’s over and get to leave the military in place like you planned. Brilliant. They’ve been planning this for a while.

What will never be over is that we should never have been there in the first place and we were just there long enough for some buddies to make some money.

ews48 on November 28, 2007 at 06:37 pm

Naha, Okinawa fish market


I don’t remember seeing you there.
WOOF on November 28, 2007 at 06:57 pm

I don’t remember seeing you there.

You’re not old enough to have seen me there, kid!


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on November 28, 2007 at 08:20 pm

The Democrats are finally about to get the guts to not fund the war so, announce that it’s over and get to leave the military in place like you planned. Brilliant.

Don’t kid yourself, Ews38.  The Democrats don’t have guts enough to put up a decent fight among themselves.  George Bush has beaten them up one side and down the other, and they are too stupid to realize they’ve been taken to the cleaners.  While AlGore was flunking out of Divinity school at Vanderbilt, Bush was earning an MBA at Harvard, arguably the toughest post-grad course in the country, while picking up a reputation as one of the best poker players in Cambridge.  Obviously he hasn’t lost his edge.

While Pelosi and Murtha and Durbin and Reid have been yammering on about a war we can’t win, Bush picked Petraeus to go win it, and by all indications, he is doing just that.

Bitch and whine all you care to, but the bottom line is this: We win… Bush wins… your guys lose.

Your simpering, candy-assed Democrats aren’t going to de-fund anything.  They haven’t got the guts.  If they couldn’t do it when we weren’t winning, they certainly aren’t going to get it done now that we are.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on November 28, 2007 at 08:34 pm

Before this Bat?

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WOOF on November 28, 2007 at 09:14 pm

WOOF,

Depends (no pun intended).  When was the picture taken?  My first trip to Okinawa was in early 1967.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on November 28, 2007 at 09:28 pm

Likely our paths crossed,
was there 66-68.
62 MP Company

WOOF on November 28, 2007 at 10:30 pm

WOOF,

I was there for much of ‘67, between tours in-country, then back again in ‘68 and ‘69.  My first karate lesson were in Naha.  Also worked at Torii Station, farther north.

Did you get to see the Habu (SR-71s) at Kadena, by any chance?


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on November 28, 2007 at 10:51 pm

WOOF,

BTW, thank you for your service.  No matter what else, we owe each other that.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on November 28, 2007 at 10:55 pm

Same to you Bat.

Never saw the SR 71, just the tails of B52’s. They were not supposed to be there, but were to big to hide.

Were you at the dojo with the 80 year old instructor ?
He was impressive.

Worked all over the Island , don’t think I ever went to Torii.

WOOF on November 28, 2007 at 11:28 pm

Was there a missile testing range up near Torii?

WOOF on November 28, 2007 at 11:30 pm

The Sensei’s name was Grandmaster Hohan Soken and he was indeed impressive.  He also had a great fondness for chocolate cake.

I was on the ramp at Kadena, downloading, at about 3 in the morning when one of those BUFs caught fire on takeoff, tried to abort, ran out of runway and exploded.  He was fully loaded at the time.  The whole crew died.

I don’t remember a missile testing range near Torii.  I do remember that NSA had sent over some female analysts, a novelty, and one night a friend of mine went down to get some fresh coffee, and was running back up the stairs when he ran ‘round the corner and bumped into one of the women, spilling his coffee on her in the process.  She was flabbergasted.  He was mortified.  And before he could think better of it, muttered out, “Oh Fuck!  I’m sorry!”


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on November 28, 2007 at 11:52 pm

ews, we are already pulling combat troops out of Iraq, on the rotation schedule set forth 2 years ago. So exactly how is this a sudden move based upon political expediency?

woofie,B1, didn’t you guys already have this conversation? Or was that you and Nman, woofie, talking about Okie?


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on November 29, 2007 at 06:22 am

Must have been WOOF and Neiman.  But then, once you reach a certain age…


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on November 29, 2007 at 06:58 am
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But then, once you reach a certain age…

My grandfather had this ram…



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And then I eat their lunch.

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Proof on November 29, 2007 at 07:02 am

Don’t recall I conversed with either B1 or Nman on Okinawa.
I’llhave to try a search.

WOOF on November 29, 2007 at 07:09 am

WOOf Okinawa site search does not reveal a conversation.
Could be evidence of 2H9’s psychic
powers.
Even then he knew.

WOOF on November 29, 2007 at 07:22 am

AAAH!  The inestimable power of being Right!


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on November 29, 2007 at 07:49 am

woofie, you were telling somebody about being an MP on Okie, can’t remember who exactly. It was the same time I asked if you had heard about the big MP bust at Ft Sill in the early ‘80s.


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on November 29, 2007 at 07:57 am
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