Sometimes It’s Just Great To Be An American Without The Politics!
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pparets
on August 19, 2008 at 06:53 pm
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Only in America could this happen.
Tuesday, August 19, 2008
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I think it’s always great to be an American!
"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.
I am happy to be an american and a North Dakotan… 
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You bunch of hypocrites.
If he wasn’t an Olympic champion, most of you would call him an illegal alien and demand his deportation.
It’s still good to be an American, no matter how much you hate that, Lestat. If this guy is an invader, he’s not really an American, is he?
"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.
It’s still good to be an American, no matter how much you hate that, Lestat. If this guy is an invader, he’s not really an American, is he?
I go by the Constitution. If he is born here he is an American, regardless of the status of his parents. You are the hypocrite. You only love him because of his success. If he was a construction worker you would ask for his deportation.
You are the hypocrite. You only love him because of his success. If he was a construction worker you would ask for his deportation.
It’s wonderful how your hate leads you to just make up things. I never said I loved the guy; that’s your shit entirely. I said it’s always good to be an American, and that filled you with so much hate you just fabricated all the lies you have just spewed. The present interpretation of the Constitution allows him to be called a citizen, but I would only deport his invader parents.
You can’t seem to stop lying, Lestat.
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and a North Dakotan…
Oh.....that explains everything.
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and so the politics destroy the moment.... thanks for poisoning the thread, Lestat.
"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”
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Bob Dylan
PP,
The thread was lame to start. Why even start with that heading? Why wouldn’t the guy be considered American?
The entire premise starts off with the suggestion that he is some second-class level American. Otherwise, why even mention it?
His native blood was that of America. He would be more true American that most on this site.
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His native blood was that of America.
Mixed with that of the European conquerers from Spain.
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Sometimes it’s just great to be an American, without the politics.
This could only happen in America.
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Robert,
Did you mean he didn’t have enough blood of the conquerers to be considered an “American”?
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Another false equivalence from a lying leftie; the Pilgrims came here to escape from religious persecution, not to exploit the prosperity established by others.
I meant what I said; he is not a pure blooded American, as you lyingly asserted; he is of mixed blood with his European conquerers. Can’t you read? He is not “more true American than most on this site.” as you lied earlier.
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Hannitized: The title of the post speaks for itself; a message which apparently went right over your head.
Do you think that everything posted here has to have some overt or latent political meaning?
Did you think that I was covertly making some political point?
I just think this kid’s story is awesome - An American story. Nothing more, nothing less.
"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”
The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan
My, Hannitized...that picture was certain on topic! Lots of Olympic athletes in that one! /sarcasm
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Do you think that everything posted here has to have some overt or latent political meaning?
Yes, he does! He even thinks my piece on German bulletproof bras was political, since it was “posted on a political blog, you moron!” Heh.
Ever since I gave up trying to make sense of his babbling, it comes across more like white noise now, like the endless, mindless surf pounding upon the beach! Heh.
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
The title of the post speaks for itself; a message which apparently went right over your head.
Or, perhaps, in one ear and out the other… with nothing in between to impede its progress.
“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”
Hannitized: The title of the post speaks for itself; a message which apparently went right over your head.
It most certainly does. It spoke to both Lestat and myself. To you, it implied that isn’t it great what can be achieved in America, as and American....even if your family were “illegal immigrants”.
That was the message of your post. And if you didn’t mean for it to appear that way, that was how it came out.
First of all, what is the politics that you supposedly ignored (but you didn’t)? There are so many other stories on this success that fail to touch on the subject you beat about the bush on. Here is one example:
http://www.wlwt.com/sports/17229402/detail.html?rss=cin&psp=news
Second. You suggest that this can only happen in America. What does that mean? Multiple countries have citizens who are winning medals. Why can this only happen in America? Your point makes no sense unless you are implying only an American who have illegal immigrants can wina gold medal.
Don’t be intellectually dishonest PP. That is Rob’s gig, not yours.
Do you think that everything posted here has to have some overt or latent political meaning?
Did you think that I was covertly making some political point?
Uh......well.....no shit! It was!
I just think this kid’s story is awesome - An American story. Nothing more, nothing less.
Bullshit! It was an American story....minus the “politics”...then you get in a huff when people touch on the politics that you bring up in a tangential way.
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H: Your last comment is yet another sterling example of how you are totally unable to grasp a simple concept. In your malignant narcissism, you try to make it about you and your confused mind. Get help.
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Another false equivalence from a lying leftie; the Pilgrims came here to escape from religious persecution, not to exploit the prosperity established by others.
Hilarious.
They may have come to run from the meanies, but they ended up exploiting the riches of this nation and taking advantage of the generosity of their native hosts.
I meant what I said; he is not a pure blooded American, as you lyingly asserted; he is of mixed blood with his European conquerers. Can’t you read?
Yes, of course I can. And I might agree, had you proof. But either way he still has blood of native Americans, as do I. And he may have European blood of the conquerors, as do I.
He is not “more true American than most on this site.” as you lied earlier.
He is. Anyone with Native American blood of the America’s is more American than anyone who does not. Who could argue that, except a political hack who is emotional rather than logical?
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PP,
What is the politics that you are pretending to ignore here? And what is it that could only happen in America?
Can any other citizen win a gold medal for their country, yes or no?
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Why is it such a crime or have to be politically motivated to be proud and love your country?
Stupid thing is people discuss it like it is a fad, is it cool to love your country…
Patriotism and Love of Country used to be something important, now people think more along the lines of, its just a place where I work and have a home, just like any where else. Nothing special.
Personally i think Americans are to sheltered, they say they are informed, and yet they act like the priveldges and rights they have are common place - nothing special.
You never know what you have....till it’s gone.
They may have come to run from the meanies, but they ended up exploiting the riches of this nation and taking advantage of the generosity of their native hosts.
Bullshit! We developed the natural resources here that the existing Stone Age culture was unable to. You lie again.
He is. Anyone with Native American blood of the America’s is more American than anyone who does not. Who could argue that, except a political hack who is emotional rather than logical?
And I might agree, had you proof.
It is you who have no proof of your own statement. You made a statement about this guy, and about all the commenters here, with absolutely no knowledge about either subject.
Even if your premise were true(and it is not), you have absolutely no idea of the bloodlines of anyone else on this blog, and so it is you who are the lying hack.
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This can only happen in America, because America is so great, we pride ourselves in the victories of those we ordinarily would want to kick out of our country.
But, because we are so generous, our country allowed this guy to bring America pride with his personal achievement!
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He is. Anyone with Native American blood of the America’s is more American than anyone who does not. Who could argue that, except a political hack who is emotional rather than logical?
Spoken like a true, emotional, political hack!
BTW, Han-job, I’m a Native American, having been born in this country. All my children are “native Americans”. If you are referring to “aboriginal Americans”, they are no more “native” than I am.
Your argument is specious, as are most of your arguments, logic-impaired troll!
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Bullshit! We developed the natural resources here that the existing Stone Age culture was unable to. You lie again.
Yeah, we put the minerals in the ground. We taught the natives how to plant corn. We showed them how to survive through winter and of course we built our rivers and made all the land viable to sustain life! Without Europeans this would be a desert!
Even if your premise were true(and it is not), you have absolutely no idea of the bloodlines of anyone else on this blog, and so it is you who are the lying hack.
Ok, then he is more American than anyone who does not have Native American blood. That was easy to clear up.
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Ok, then he is more American than anyone who does not have Native American blood.
Everybody who was born here is an American, even the babies of invaders; can’t you read? Everybody who now lives in the Americas originally came from somewhere else. There was no indigenous population.
BTW, God put the minerals here, moron.
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Everybody who was born here is an American, even the babies of invaders; can’t you read?
Well, you mean according to the constitutions interpretations, right? I mean, you wrote it!
Everybody who now lives in the Americas originally came from somewhere else. There was no indigenous population.
Oh, ok. You might want to tell that to the professors at UCBerkeley and Wikipedia, they have a different opinion.
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/IndigenousVid.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas
BTW, God put the minerals here, moron.
And the Europeans came and exploited them and took them away from the Native Americans who they isolated on reservations and who were here before them.
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BTW, Han-job, I’m a Native American, having been born in this country.
What part, central, southern or northern American?
All my children are “native Americans”. If you are referring to “aboriginal Americans”, they are no more “native” than I am.
So then anyone born in Central America is an American Native? So then why the issue of illegal immigration if everyone born in the America’s is an American native?
Your argument is specious, as are most of your arguments, logic-impaired troll!
You don’t like it that you are the real immigrant, do you?
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Hannitized makes a point. Maybe someday, he’ll make some sense!
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
PP,
What is the politics that you are pretending to ignore here? And what is it that could only happen in America?
Can any other citizen win a gold medal for their country, yes or no?
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You don’t like it that you are the real immigrant, do you?
You really don’t treat words as if they had actual meaning, do you?
Did you ever stop to think, and forget to start again? Sure sounds like it!
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Hannitized: If I had wanted to politicize this post, I would have begun with “Son of Illegal Immigrants, etc.”
When you have the time and/or the inclination, call the Mexican consulate in Hawaii and ask them if the son of illegal immigrants would be allowed on the Mexican Olympic Team, or allowed to train, allowed to attend school or even allowed to remain in their country.
For that matter, ask yourself why Barack Obama would say that his story - and he is right! - could have happened in no other country but America.
Hannitized, I can’t speak for you or what motivated you to insult my integrity or my motives on this post and thread, but I think it is pointless to have further discourse with you on this or any other subject in the future.
While I will not stoop to the kind of things which are routinely said about you and to you by others on this thread, I clearly have a better idea now why they do so.
"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”
The times, they are a-changin’...
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PP,
It doesn’t matter what the point is, you will ignore it.
Any American as arrogant as PP, that would suggest this Olympic medal winner has politics surrounding him is off the mark if they believe that this could only happen in the country that his bloodline originated from.
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When you have the time and/or the inclination, call the Mexican consulate in Hawaii and ask them if the son of illegal immigrants would be allowed on the Mexican Olympic Team, or allowed to train, allowed to attend school or even allowed to remain in their country.
That is a silly question. Your question should be, does a Mexican citizen have a right to play in the Mexican Olympic team. Anyone born in Mexico is a Mexican National!!!
This is exactly what you don’t understand. This kid is an US Citizen!!
NATIONALITY:
According to Article 30 of the Mexican Constitution, “Mexican nationality is acquired by birth or by naturalization.”
MEXICANS BY BIRTH ARE:
· “Those that are born in the territory of the Republic, whatever the nationality of their parents.”
· “Those born outside Mexican territory of one or both parents that were born in Mexico. “
· “Anyone born outside of Mexico of one or both parents that are naturalized Mexicans”
· “Those born on board Mexican ships or aircraft.”
This means that anyone born in Mexico has Mexican nationality by the simple act of being born in Mexican territory. Anyone who has one or both parents born in Mexico is a Mexican national. There is a simple procedure for verifying this nationality. Anyone born in the U.S. that has at least one Mexican parent has dual nationality in Mexico.
According to Art. 37 of the Constitution, a Mexican cannot lose his nationality. This is part of the reforms of 1998 that permit dual nationality. Anyone that renounced his Mexican nationality to acquire another nationality can recover it, because he no longer can lose it.
http://www.mexicanlaws.com/newsletter_june_2006.htm
If I had wanted to politicize this post, I would have begun with “Son of Illegal Immigrants, etc.”
You might not have wanted, but you did.
I don’t care if you choose to ignore it PP. I gave you plenty of chances to answer a question straight on. You ignored them. You did the same thing on your arrogant remarks about “minorities in the military would likely vote for Obama because he is a minority”. You likewise gave no answers to the direct questions you were asked.
If you want to know what a non-politicized story of this victory looks like, you need only click the link below.
http://www.wlwt.com/sports/17229402/detail.html?rss=cin&psp=news
I had no idea he was the son of “illegal immigrants” until this posting came up and I had to google what the controversy might be. Otherwise, there was no reason for you to title this post as you had.
Again, I don’t care if you choose to remain ignorant of your choice of words and what the represent. You have been given a gift to explore your thoughts and the reasons why you may think the way you do. But you are hiding like a coward. Note, that is “like” a coward.
I personally think you are tough enough to explore your own thouhts, but you have been lacking in this regard lately.
And secondly, I don’t care what a bunch of mid-western hacks think of me. They are idiots PP.
You only need answer two questions:
Why could this only happen in America?
What is the politics that you are pretending to ignore?
Hannitized, I can’t speak for you or what motivated you to insult my integrity or my motives on this post and thread, but I think it is pointless to have further discourse with you on this or any other subject in the future.
Lame! So you insult a US Citizen with your ignorance and arrogance and you don’t know why and when someone questions you on it, you accuse them of being something not worthy of responding.
You would have lost this debate, had you chose to rise to the challenge you presented.
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PP,
It doesn’t matter what the point is, you will ignore it.
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Mexico’s Constitution on immigrants and illegal immigrants:
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/literatus/vpost?id=1055436
"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”
The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan
Only in America could this happen.
It could happen in Mexico too. And not only could it happen in Mexico, but you wouldn’t have Mexican citizens complaining about the “interpretations” of the Mexcian laws about anyone’s citizenship rights if their parents were from another country, legally or not.
If you weren’t so arrogant about that, and willing to discuss it, you could have learned something.
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And not only could it happen in Mexico, but
you wouldn’t have Mexican citizens complaining about the
“interpretations” of the Mexcian laws about anyone’s citizenship rights if their parents were from another country, legally or not.
Even though you persist in your narcisstic off-topic bullshit, you are wrong. Mexico has much more stringent immigration standards than the US, and they enforce them to the letter. They have a big problem with invasion across their Southern border, and are very draconian about it. You lie again.
"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.
And the Europeans came and exploited them and took them away from the Native Americans who they isolated on reservations and who were here before them.
The so-called “native Americans” didn’t believe in ownership of the land, so you lie again. They isolated themselves by refusing to join the melting pot. In any other country, they would all have been dead, instead of becoming essentially wards of the State.
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Amendment XIV
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Where was this great representative of America born?
Excuse me, you were saying?
What did one Native say to the other Native when he saw the first tall ship?
Oceans no longer protect us.
Excuse me, you were saying?
...and subject to the jurisdiction thereof…
Someone who is invading our country is not “subject” to its jurisdiction. This is the interpretation that should be changed to stop this debacle.
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Henry Cejudo, in his own words:
“I’m living the American dream right now, man,” Cejudo said, wrapped in an American flag moments after his win.
“The United States is the land of opportunity. It’s the best country in the world and I’m just glad to represent it.”
http://www.latimes.com/la-spw-olywrestling20-2008aug20,0,7484793.story
For readers of this thread: If you read my original post and all of my subsequent comments, then you know I was paying homage - free of any political slant - to a remarkable kid whose achievement should make every American proud; as proud as he is to be an American living the Americn dream. My own father, a Cuban immigrant to this country in 1928, would have agreed with young Cejudo emphatically.
Likewise, you will have noticed that no where did I claim or imply that Henry Cejudo was not a United States Citizen, or that he did not deserve to be one.
If any reader believes that any other nation’s olympic team consists of as many whites, blacks, hispanics, asians, males and females - and none barred by any religious or political barrier - as that of the United States, feel free to post that information.
I do not now, and never have, subscribed to the notion that the United States has anything to be ashamed of in it’s history of admission of immigrants. No other nation on Earth has welcomed so many diverse peoples as we have.
Likewise, any native American who has the skill and the will to succeed in this nation, has done so or will do so.
Tragically, what we have seeen revealed on this thread is the worst of liberal-mindsets: White, european America is steeped in guilt and shame and must never be allowed to take pride or satisfaction in any accomplishment, without being reminded of some imagined sin against humanity.
"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”
The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan
This American hero did not invade anything.
He was born here.
He is an American.
Why do you hate Americans, 108?
Excuse me, you were saying?
pp: Don’t you know that the lefties hate America, so that any favorable mention of the benefits of being an American brings forth their boiling hate? You have been given an object lesson in the intensity of that hate by the leftie commenters on this thread. Anyone for “bipartisanship”?
"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.
Likewise, you will have noticed that no where did I claim or imply that Henry Cejudo was not a United States Citizen, or that he did not deserve to be one.
Nobody accused you of saying such things PP. Don’t be so sensitive.
Tragically, what we have seeen revealed on this thread is the worst of liberal-mindsets: White, european America is steeped in guilt and shame and must never be allowed to take pride or satisfaction in any accomplishment, without being reminded of some imagined sin against humanity.
Now note the difference between you and I PP. While you have clearly mischaracterized my point, I am not offended by your ability to miss a clear and concise argument. Instead, I will defend my position and articulate it for the sake of debate. That what this is all about friend!!
My question is simple. What did you mean when you said “Only in America can this happen? Why is it that only in America, Americans can win gold medals for their country and countrymen?
It is really a very simple question, but difficult to answer apparently.
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Even though you persist in your narcisstic off-topic bullshit,
????????
Don’t use words you don’t know the definition of Robert. Who do you think you are, Proof?
Mexico has much more stringent immigration standards than the US, and they enforce them to the letter. They have a big problem with invasion across their Southern border, and are very draconian about it. You lie again.
Uhh??? Do you eat paint chips? Or is this more of that magnificent reading comprehension skill you keep bragging about, that is on display here?
I never argued that the Mexican government is lenient on illegal immigration. I said they are very fair about giving citizenship to people who are born on Mexican soil, or planes, or boats. The bottom line is.....you lie again.
Did you miss this the first time Robert?
MEXICANS BY BIRTH ARE:
· “Those that are born in the territory of the Republic, whatever the nationality of their parents.”
NATIONALITY:
According to Article 30 of the Mexican Constitution, “Mexican nationality is acquired by birth or by naturalization.”
MEXICANS BY BIRTH ARE:
· “Those that are born in the territory of the Republic, whatever the nationality of their parents.”
· “Those born outside Mexican territory of one or both parents that were born in Mexico. “
· “Anyone born outside of Mexico of one or both parents that are naturalized Mexicans”
· “Those born on board Mexican ships or aircraft.”
This means that anyone born in Mexico has Mexican nationality by the simple act of being born in Mexican territory. Anyone who has one or both parents born in Mexico is a Mexican national. There is a simple procedure for verifying this nationality. Anyone born in the U.S. that has at least one Mexican parent has dual nationality in Mexico.
According to Art. 37 of the Constitution, a Mexican cannot lose his nationality. This is part of the reforms of 1998 that permit dual nationality. Anyone that renounced his Mexican nationality to acquire another nationality can recover it, because he no longer can lose it.
Despite PP’s attempt to trash the Mexican constitution with some crazy websites interpretations. The laws granting citizenship are very open.
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Here you go PP! Instead of trashing the Mexican constitution by linking some crazy website that gives us its interpretations. Why don’t you read it for yourself.
See Article 30.
You are welcome. Welcome to real debate my friend.
http://historicaltextarchive.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=93
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“I’m living the American dream right now, man,” Cejudo said, wrapped in an American flag moments after his win.
“The United States is the land of opportunity. It’s the best country in the world and I’m just glad to represent it.”
Those are great quotes by a victorious American Olympic winner!! That is what victorious American olympic winners say PP.
So why can a US Citizen who wins the Gold Medal.....only happen in America?
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Oceans no longer protect us.
They already knew that, having invaded this continent in the first place.
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nar·cis·sism Listen to the pronunciation of narcissism
Pronunciation:
\ˈnär-sə-ˌsi-zəm\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
German Narzissismus, from Narziss Narcissus, from Latin Narcissus
Date:
18221 : egoism, egocentrism
2 : love of or sexual desire for one’s own body
— nar·cis·sist Listen to the pronunciation of narcissist \ˈnär-sə-sist\ noun or adjective
— nar·cis·sis·tic Listen to the pronunciation of narcissistic \ˌnär-sə-ˈsis-tik\ adjective
The first one describes your commenting style exactly; as for the second, I don’t know and I don’t care.
“Off-topic” means that you have brought the topic around to yourself and your hate for America, once again.
The topic of this thread was a celebration of American achievement, and you have tried to shit all over it with your turds of narcissistic hate.
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Ok, and so what is it about my statement that relates to me and my ego?
And not only could it happen in Mexico, but you wouldn’t have Mexican citizens complaining about the “interpretations” of the Mexcian laws about anyone’s citizenship rights if their parents were from another country, legally or not.Even though you persist in your narcisstic off-topic bullshit, you are wrong.
What does Mexican laws have to do with me? And why do you hate invaders Robert?
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and so the politics destroy the moment.... thanks for poisoning the thread, Lestat.
Letstat, like most liberals depises his own country, and gets all shitty anytime anybody says something nice about it.
This is just more predictable bile shit from Lestat, who I thank for reminding us why Democrats can’t be trusted. If you hate your country, why should you be allowed to lead it?
Sanity:
Why is it such a crime or have to be politically motivated to be proud and love your country?
Simple enough.
Hannitized and Lestat hate and despise their own country, so any praise for it is necessarily political.
And why do you hate invaders Robert?
I don’t hate them, so you lie again. I want to keep them out of my country, and remove the ones who are already here, along with their children. Why do you want our country invaded, H?
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That ship has sailed, troll!
HumptyDumptytized: You do not use words in the same way that sane people use words. You make up your own meanings and then bloviate because everyone else is wrong!
You may not be clinically insane, Han-job, but your arguments are. Seek professional help. Quickly.
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
You make up your own meanings and then bloviate because everyone else is wrong!
Yes, I see...i use words in the way the dictionary uses them and I am wrong. Got it.
Tell me again why providing Mexican law makes me a narcissist? Heh!
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I want to keep them out of my country, and remove the ones who are already here, along with their children.
So you want this olympic gold medalist removed from our country! Thanks for finally admitting it. Lestat was right and you were a liar.
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Hannitized and Lestat hate and despise their own country, so any praise for it is necessarily political.
Hey Carrick, can you explain to me why only in America a citizen can win a gold medal for their country??
Don’t worry, I don’t expect that you will be courageous enough to answer.
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If any reader believes that any other nation’s olympic team consists of as many whites, blacks, hispanics, asians, males and females - and none barred by any religious or political barrier - as that of the United States, feel free to post that information.
So you are finally pointing to the fact that your post was about race, even though you pretend this is just about being American. Your phrase despite the politics was your tangential way of hinting at the race issue as well as the fact that his parents are illegal immigrants.
Every honest person knows this PP. I don’t know why you just don’t learn how to be open minded enough to respond to the responses that you encouraged, accidentally or intentionally. Show some personal responsibility.
Combating Republican dirty tricks since 2002!
Example: Republican Dirty Trick
In spite of the trivializing of Henry Cujedo’s remarkable victory in Beijing by those who want to see a political agenda in every post at SAB, I hope that thoughful Americans who read this post realize what a wonderful, uniquely American story this is.
This kid is a proud American to the core. Savor the moment and his victory!
"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”
The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan
Hey Carrick, can you explain to me why only in America a citizen can win a gold medal for their country??
Straw man question. Nobody besides you is even bringing that up…
Carrick,
You didn’t read PP’s post. May I remind you of this (see the bottom of his post):
Only in America could this happen.
So since this great victory was won by a US citizen, I see no point in bringing it up. You put on top of that how great it is to be an American, “without the politics” and you have got yourself one questionable post.
I don’t doubt PP’s true intentions for a moment. I believe he really thinks this is a great thing and he truly want’s to give this guy credit.
The problem is that he did politicize it whether he wanted to or not. I have provided a link of a true story that touches on this success that leaves out all the bullshit.
Cujedo didn’t talk about being a minority, PP did. He hinted about it with his words and then he emphasized it when questioned.
My question is simple. Why can’t this just be about an US citizen winning a Gold medal for our country!! Our country is great. He is living the American dream, because he is an American, not some second class citizen or “minority”.
Why bring that up?
Combating Republican dirty tricks since 2002!
Example: Republican Dirty Trick
What makes America great is many things. Americans aren’t from one ethnic background. They are Irish, Welch, English, Scottish, Mexican, Spanish, Native American, African, Pakistani, Afghanistan, Brazilian, Hawaiian, ect. ect. ect.
This post is suggesting that America is great because it gives all these immigrants a chance at greatness. America is great because of the immigrants. Everyone is an immigrant in this country.
To point out one immigrant (Mexcian) over another (Irish) is pointless and quite frankly, sort of insulting. It might not have been meant to be insulting, but it is.
Cujedo is proud to be an American because of our system and our way of life. His success is a result of the opportunity this country brings. But he is no different than any other Olympian from America. Is he?
Combating Republican dirty tricks since 2002!
Example: Republican Dirty Trick
It might not have been meant to be insulting, but it is.
Only if you choose to be insulted, narcissist!
"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.
Why can’t this just be about an US citizen winning
a Gold medal for our country!!
It is; you just interjected your own narcissistic bullshit, as usual.
"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.
You make up your own meanings and then bloviate because everyone else is wrong!Yes, I see...i (sic)use words in the way the dictionary uses them and I am wrong. Got it.
Clueless troll: You said:
You don’t like it that you are the real immigrant, do you?
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
im·mi·grant /ˈɪmɪgrənt/ Pronunciation Key - [im-i-gruhnt] Pronunciation Key -
–noun
1. a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence.
Which country, pray tell, did I “migrate” from, lying, clueless braindead troll?
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Robert,
Were you insulted when Obama said “his Grandmother was a typical white person”? Narcissist!
Combating Republican dirty tricks since 2002!
Example: Republican Dirty Trick
I didn’t see a minority winning this Gold Medal, I saw an American. Only when it was brought up that there was “politics” to ignore and that “this could only happen in America” did I realize that there was some sort of controversy.
I saw an American, PP saw a minority, probably one whose parents were illegal immigrants.
This is the fundamental difference between Dems and Republicans. Republicans think immigrants benefit from this great country, while Democrats know the country benefits from immigrants as immigrants benefit from our country. America is a country of immigrants.
Combating Republican dirty tricks since 2002!
Example: Republican Dirty Trick
So you want this olympic gold medalist removed from our country!
No, moron! I didn’t want the invaders here in the first place; can’t you read? He could be a Mexican Olympic champion, then. That would give you another chance to indulge in your narcissistic hate for America.
"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.
Were you insulted when Obama said “his Grandmother was a typical white person”?
No; I was glad that he revealed is racist hatred for “white people”. What is your narcissistic agenda now? It’s not all about you and your “feelings”.
"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.
Why is it seemingly OK for a minority to typify whites but not for a white to typify the minority?
Without an honest exchange of ideas, how can a mind grow?