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The welfare state of Israel has received hundreds of billions from the US taxpayer. Disgusting.
Time for them (Israelis) to be self sufficient, get off the tit,and Moshe Dann to be truthfull.

ellinas
yea. well put. how about Iraq? that’s an expensive ‘suckler’ too. and every other goddamned country in the whole world it seems.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Two Jew-haters heard from.  The difference is that the “Palestinians” are terrorists, and the Israelis aren’t.  The “Palestinians” strap bombs on children, and the Israelis don’t.  The Israelis have made the desert bloom, and the “Palestinians” are still living in shit.  Also, the Israelis are our allies, and the “Palestinians” are our enemies.  Get the difference?  The thrust of this article is that we are giving huge sums of money to depraved terrorists who are not even using it to improve their lives; they just spend it on more terror.  They should be cut off, immediately.  We get nothing in return for what we give them, unlike Israel.  Israel is not a “welfare state”, btw, ellinas; you lie.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

Palestinians are refugees for a reason.  When you openly support the destruction of your own government, you kinda lose the right to citizenship.  Comparing the treasonous Palestinians that fought against Israel to the Israeli citizens that they attacked and sided with Syria, Egypt, and others is a rather interesting position.

The Palestinian refugees were promised the assistance of their neighboring Islamic states if they rose up against Israel and every single dollar provided to the PA is accessible to the terrorist leaders that run the place.  Israel has tried reconciliation over and over and has given back large swaths of land to try to appease them.

Giving money to the PA is like giving money to Liberia when Charles Taylor was in charge.  How can you compare a democratic society that is our ally to the Islamic backed terror producing state of the Palestinians?  I mean, make a better argument than that…

I didn’t believe that an article about the current state of how the PA spends their money and how their neighbors treat “Palestinians” invites a “shut off money to Israel” argument.  The two are completely separate issues and the PA has done absolutely nothing to warrant continued aid, unless we consider killing Jews something worth paying for.

Palestinians are refugees for a reason.

Righto! Its because their country was usurped out of sympathy.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Two Jew-haters heard from.

Nice try.

The “Palestinians” strap bombs on children

Yea. Fake ones so they get caught and educated in prison.

The Israelis have made the desert bloom, and the “Palestinians” are still living in shit.

Who’s the hater? Give me billions of dollars from the US taxpayers and I can make a desert bloom too.

Also, the Israelis are our allies, and the “Palestinians” are our enemies.

The Palestinians are not our enemies. Thanks for exhibiting your ‘geniousity’ though.

We get nothing in return for what we give them, unlike Israel.

Right. Israel generously provides us with spies to populate the Pentagon. Well worth the investment.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

A mass immigration happened.  This does not usurp the rights of Palestinians when the Brits and the world governments allowed a mass immigration.  Admittedly, it had to suck having all these Jews show up, but Palestinians were not denied suffrage nor where they otherwise driven out by force.

I guess they had it as bad as the folks in Rawanda or Darfur. 

http://domino.un.org/unispal.nsf/0/7f0af2bd897689b785256c330061d253?OpenDocument

Citizenship. Palestinian citizens residing in Palestine outside the City of Jerusalem, as well as Arabs and Jews who, not holding Palestinian citizenship, reside in Palestine outside the City of Jerusalem shall, upon the recognition of independence, become citizens of the State in which they are resident and enjoy full civil and political rights. Persons over the age of eighteen years may opt, within one year from the date of recognition of independence of the State in which they reside, for citizenship of the other State, providing that no Arab residing in the area of the proposed Arab State shall have the right to opt for citizenship in the proposed Jewish State and no Jew residing in the proposed Jewish State shall have the right to opt for citizenship in the proposed Arab State. The exercise of this right of option will be taken to include the wives and children under eighteen years of age of persons so opting.

Hmmm.  Usurped.  Perhaps a reading of the UN Documents that created Israel might enlighten us all.

Justin

it had to suck having all these Jews show up

Watchout! There are lots of trigger happy antisemitism police around these parts!

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

but Palestinians were not denied suffrage

Oh, that’s fine then. Nevermind. It was totally just!

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Justin
Imagine Native American religion catches on in Asia and many people become devout followers. Then China decides they are worthy of extermination and sets about exterminating them. Then Europe and Russia occupy China and save the religiously ‘Native American’ people. Then everyone decides its fine if they move in and kick us all out since its their religious homeland. You think that’s fine? Furthermore, I don’t want to hear a bunch of people shitting on the UN until its time to stick up for the creation of Israel. Then all the sudden their word is the ultimate truth? STFU.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Give me billions of dollars from the US
taxpayers and I can make a desert bloom too.

If you had read the article, you would see that the “Palestinians” have been given billions of dollars, and they are still living in shit.  Do you even know how to think?
BTW, most of what we have given Israel is in the form of military aid, to help them defend themselves from the Islamic haters who surround them.  Duh.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

Sparkie: There never was a nation of “Palestine”.  At the time of the founding of the State of Israel, the area belonged to Jordan(which was a protectorate of Great Britain), and was called Transjordan.  Jordan could have absorbed the relatively few refugees(at the time), but refused to take them.  Thus all the anger, war and bloodshed that has ensued are really the desire of the Islamists to have a “cause” with which to rally their ignorant populations.  In your Jewhatred, you should blame the British and the UN, but you can’t seem to think that clearly.  No surprise.  Your combination of arrogance, anger and ignorance continues to produce sound and fury, signifying nothing.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

An estimated half million people 60 years ago, that number is now over four million and increasing daily.

Hence, why I always laugh when some fool claims that the Palestinians are a victim of “genocide”. Genocide would not result in one’s population increasing eight-fold.

Most Arab nations hate the Palestinians. They just use them as tools against Israel.

There is no such thing as a indigenous Palestinian race or group. There was never a time when there was not an Israeli presence in Israel, it has been their land for roughly 4,000 years, and no Arab or anyone called a Palestinian has any claim to that land whatsoever. The people living in that land before the Jews were mostly from Greece and Asia Minor, but migratory and they had no connection, ethnic, linguistic or historical with Arabia or Arabs.

The Emperor Hadrian wanted to blot out the name of the Roman “Provincia Judaea” and so renamed it “Provincia Syria Palaestina” (Philistinia), the Latin version of the Greek name and the first use of the name as an administrative unit. The name “Provincia Syria Palaestina” was later shortened to Palaestina, from which the modern, anglicized “Palestine” is derived.

The name “Falastin” that Arabs today use for “Palestine” is not an Arabic name. It is the Arab pronunciation of the Roman “Palaestina”. As Robert108 wisely said, the people calling themselves Palestinians today are Arab Jordanians by origin.

So before people try and blame the Jews for what is happening in the Holy Land, two things must be considered. 1. This attempt at claiming Israel for a non-existent Palestinian people, is simlpy an excuse for them to annihilate the Jews. I must add there is no evidence that Mohammed was ever in Isarel and the Dome of The Rock (al-Aqsa Mosque)was constructed atop the Jewish Temple as an insult to Elohim and the Jews. The Arabs/Muslims have no rightful claim to one square inch of Israel. 2. Jerusalem in Holy Scripture is the earthly throne of God (Elohim) and as such, the Muslims rejecting the Judeo-Christian God are intent in wiping out any contender to Allah’s religious authority over the entire world.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

There is no such thing as a indigenous Palestinian race or group.

Oh, right. And all the Romanians and Russians that populate Israel now really had a birthright to the place.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Oh, right. And all the Romanians and Russians that populate Israel now really had a birthright to the place.

Let’s see now… I posted the UN Resolution granting the creation of Israel, so yeah, they kinda do.

There are lots of situations where there are multiple claims to a certain area.  Kashmir is an even better example.  Hell, Saddam claimed that Iraq had title to Kuwait.  Iraq, Pakistan, India, and the Palestinians have all been involved in wars over disputed land up to and including a nuclear arms race over Kashmir. 

What is your plan there Sparkie.  I don’t want to hear who owns it because the UN was pretty specific about that.  You obviously have issues with it, so there are three choices in my estimation:

<ul>
<li>Have the UN revoke the resolution and throw the Jews out.
<li>Have the Jews in Israel voluntarily say “Our bad” and give it back to the Palestinians that themselves did not really own it--or better yet, have the Brits take it back over and do what they want with it.
<li>Let the Arabs push them into the sea.
</ul>

I guess a massive genocide where we build gas chambers and ovens works too, but with global warming, we would probably have to buy carbon offsets for all the crematoriums.

I didn’t mean it as antisemetic above and just realized that it kinda came off that way when I said “it had to suck having all these Jews show up”.  Didn’t mean it in an antisemetic way, but rather in the fact that the Arabs have spent the last 1200 years trying to get rid of them and now, they move back into their neighborhood.

Justin/Neiman/Lik/R2016

I posted the UN Resolution granting the creation of Israel, so yeah, they kinda do.

Like I said before, I don’t buy this bullcrap where you guys shit on the UN until its time to prove Israel’s legitimacy. I don’t buy it for a second. So sorry. Israel is not at all analogous to Kashmir so again I will have to say STFU. India and Pakistan fight over uninhabitable wastelands high in the Himalayas. What is my plan with regards to Israel? I don’t know, I just don’t want to hear everyone shitting on Palestine. You bet your ass if I was a Palestinian I would be out there shooting as many Israelis as I could. What should they do, just give up and let whoever wants to resettle them wherever they want to? You guys are fucking bigots against Muslims and it affects your ability to think clearly about anything involving Muslims. Its like Hitler, who was fucked up about a few skeezy Jews and took it out on the entire population. No different.

There is no such thing as a indigenous Palestinian race or group.

Neiman. I trust you read my thought experiment about China killing all the religiously Native American Asians. There is no such thing as a indigenous American race or group. So what? Your point? If you got pushed out of this country because of some mass migration wouldn’t you be pissed as a motherfucker and be tempted to fight to get back your homeland? I would. If you’re not, you’re a pushover. Also build into the equation very religious areas in the US that are part of your religion.

Most Arab nations hate the Palestinians.

No different than all you guys here at SA.

I guess a massive genocide where we build gas chambers and ovens works too, but with global warming, we would probably have to buy carbon offsets for all the crematoriums.

Now you are being a fucking dick. Period. I do not want to just kill all the jews ok Justin? I should never have to type that, but thanks to little fucknuts like you who resort to bullshit like that I have to. I have spent plenty of time studying the holocaust and its lasting cultural and psychological effects. I do not deny it or think it was just or necessary or even remotely OK. Capiche? To imply that I do is just fucked up. I’m not surprised though, that’s how people WHO DON’T HAVE SHIT ALWAYS ARGUE. r108 is a PERFECT EXAMPLE.

or better yet, have the Brits take it back over and do what they want with it.

I like this suggestion. Not because its plausible or anything, rather because it lays bare the fact that this entire experiment is bullshit current day colonialism. Its like the Dutch taking over Africa or the Brits taking over India. No different. And you guys expect all the Palestinians to just lay down their guns and give up their will and ability to self determine to Israel. Again, would you fight back if a bunch of foreigners came in here, starting pushing us all around, printed ID numbers on the one pair of clothes you owned, violently abducting you weekly to interrogate you, et cetera et cetera et cetera. I would fight back. Not so much for my country, but for myself, my family, for my former life which has been ruined (however shitty it was), for my house back and my land. Go to Miami and ask the Cubans how they feel about having to flee and give up their property on the beach, their jobs, their lives. I suspect most of you are sympathetic to that… your only problems with Palestine obviously lay in a fundamental bigotry and hatred for Muslims. Its sad. With respect to that type of hatred:

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

I suspect most of you are sympathetic to that… your only problems with Palestine obviously lay in a fundamental bigotry and hatred for Muslims.

Islam and the Palestinians call for my death. It’s not irrational to dislike and be against such a view.

As for hatred - I don’t have the energy. So please, stop talking out of your ass.

But what’s not to like about a culture that reveres death? The day I support the Palestinians is the day I become demonic.

Lik
You are wrong. Osama does, but most Muslims do not.

I can just as easily say that about Christians or Jews because their holy books contain endorsements of ethnic cleansing and some of them are killers. BFD.

Bigot.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

In fact, Lik, I just got a letter from one of my buddies in Iraq yeaterday who has done two tours in Afghanistan and one in Iraq, and I can say that he has firsthand experience and everything he says goes against your lies.
The old testament calls for your death. Big deal.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Bigot.

One infidel crying bigot to another infidel over his dislike of a religion that would kill them both.

What a weird world I live in.

In fact, Lik, I just got a letter from one of my buddies in Iraq yeaterday who has done two tours in Afghanistan and one in Iraq, and I can say that he has firsthand experience and everything he says goes against your lies.

I’ll raise you two soldiers to your one.

Shut up.

Lik
The old testament calls for your death. Big deal.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

The old testament calls for your death.

So? My concern isn’t so much what religious book says what. Rather, my concern lies with the actions of the religious and the justifications they are using. As it stands today, there are plenty of people from the Islamic faith whose entire raison d’être is to spread their religion by any means necessary. I concern myself with those people and their actions.

When you can point to hundreds of millions of people from the Christian faith who are calling for my death and actively working for my death while using the Christian texts/teachings as their justification, then you have a case. Until then, you can take your “big deal” pronouncements and stuff it where the sun don’t shine.

My point, Lik, is this: All religious texts are intolerant except for maybe a couple Hindu texts and a couple Buddhist ones. So what? Some Zionists and some Christians fit the description above, albeit a minority, but to think that all of Islam is against you is fallacious. Period. There are many progressive and moderate Muslims… even in places like Iran. I would wager those types are higher, per capita, in Iran, than many other Muslim states. Furthermore, if you think you can go out and kill all the Muslims or subjugate them or whatever… you’re wrong and your only going to make the problems you outline worse.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

What should they do, just give up and let whoever wants to resettle them wherever they want to?

What they should do is to get to work, stop the terrorism and stop blowing up their own children, and build a modern nation with what they have been given.  The whole world would pitch in to help them, if they took even the smallest steps toward being a functioning country(for the first time in history, I might add).

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

r108
Why should we expect them to be pushovers if we aren’t willing to be pushovers? I don’t follow.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie: I don’t understand any of the assumptions contained in your question.  I quite clearly stated that if the “Palestinians” gave up their tired old victim status, went to work and built a modern nation, the whole world would pitch in to help.  You can only pose as a victim for so long(60 years); eventually, it’s time to just get to work and accomplish something for yourself.  What part of that didn’t you understand?  What they have been doing hasn’t gotten any sort of good results for them, so maybe they could try behaving like civilized people for a change.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

What is my plan with regards to Israel? I don’t know, I just don’t want to hear everyone shitting on Palestine. You bet your ass if I was a Palestinian I would be out there shooting as many Israelis as I could. What should they do, just give up and let whoever wants to resettle them wherever they want to? You guys are fucking bigots against Muslims and it affects your ability to think clearly about anything involving Muslims. Its like Hitler, who was fucked up about a few skeezy Jews and took it out on the entire population. No different.

Wait, first you say this, then you compare me making basically the same remark about the Palestinians and Iranians and, well, pretty much all Muslims consistently saying they will not recognize the Israeli state and want to push it into the sea and say:

Now you are being a fucking dick. Period. I do not want to just kill all the jews ok Justin? I should never have to type that, but thanks to little fucknuts like you who resort to bullshit like that I have to.

First, this is not my or your solution solution, but rather the Iranian or Palestinian solution proposed by Hamas or Hezbollah.  They don’t want the land back, they want the Jews destroyed.  When the fucking President of Iran is a Holocaust denier, you gotta say that this is what he is proposing, though not quite as environmentally unfriendly.

You still have failed to propose a solution.  The solution is simple and Robert hits on it:

1.  Stop firing rockets from Gaza and Lebanon into Israeli cities.
2.  Stop blowing up grandmothers and kids on buses and in cafes.
3.  Put a non-Hamas leadership in place.
4.  Stop letting Iran fund Hamas and Hezbollah trying to destroy Israel--we already stopped Saddam.
5.  Stop Islamic Charities from transferring money to the families of suicide bombers.
6.  Acknowledge the right of Israel to exist and come back the tables to negotiate how that is going to happen.

I am not naive enough to think that “ALL MUSLIMS” want to kill the Jews.  I am smart enough to realize that Saddam and currently Iran are finding rocket attacks with the intent to destroy Israel and push them into the sea.  And all of this is done for a reason.  It isn’t Islam or Muslims, but it is their leaderships and charities that are supporting the destruction of Israel and moreso, the destruction of Jews.

They don’t want the land back

Wrong. They want that friggin rock where Muhammud ascended. It also happens to be the site of some former jewish temple and also the predicted place of Jesus’s return.

Furthermore, most of the issues with Iran’s influence in there now… have to do with the removal of Saddam… turns out he was a great buffer between Iran and the greater ME.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

BTW, the reason the leadership of the Islamic world hates the US and Israel is more pragmatic than religious.  They are nasty dictatorship and having an external enemy leads one to focus less on the internal leadership.

Al Zaqawi was from Jordan and spent several years trying to destory the Jordanian government before he went to Iraq.  It is much easier on the Jordanians, Syrians, Iranians, etc., to have the folks chanting “death to Israel” or “death to America” than it is to have them targetting the leadership.  Just ask Musharrif.

If you want to make it about Muslims and religion, you are wrong.  These are state sponsors of the destruction of Israel and are using the propganda machine like Al Jazeera to influence the individuals.  The Mosques have local influence, but the State Sponsored media is why the hatred grows.

I am not naive enough to think that “ALL MUSLIMS” want to kill the Jews.

A minority around here. COngratulations on your informed position.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Wrong. They want that friggin rock where Muhammud ascended. It also happens to be the site of some former jewish temple and also the predicted place of Jesus’s return.

So give them the temple mount back and keep the Palestinians in camps.  Is that what you are saying they want?

They do want that rock.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

So do the Jews.  It was the Jewish holy temple far before Mohammed came around.  They have claim to it in my mind.  I don’t see how you can argue about how the Jews took over Palestine and yet at the same time argue that the biggest problem is that the Muslims want land that is the holiest on earth to Christians and Jews that was theres 800 years before Mohammed.

If they are pissed about it, that is a real bitch.  But I can’t see how their original taking of Jerusalem by force somehow gives them title to something that is clearly Jewish property.

dude, did I say “theres”?  WTF.  English 101. 

I went to Arizona State, so cut me some slack on the whole literacy thing…

Justin

somehow gives them title to something that is clearly Jewish property

that just begs the question. go back another 500 years. and another 500. the idea of ‘indigenous’ is silly. its undefinable. and, as i pointed out, subtley above, what’s up with the russains and eastern block jews? they weren’t there back then - right to what?

Ariz State - One of my friends is a consequentialist ethics (Philosophy) professor at Arizona State. Smart guy.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie: First, the people coming to Israel from Russia, Poland and other places are JEWS! For Jews, ever since the diaspora, which refers to: 1. The dispersion of the Jews from Palestine following the Babylonians’ conquest of the Judean Kingdom in the 6th century bc and again following the Romans’ destruction of the Second Temple in ad 7; and 2. The Jewish communities living outside either the present-day state of Israel or the ancient biblical kingdom of Israel, pray almost daily, “Next Year Jerusalem, the Holy City.” These Jews are, as God told us would happen near the end of days, would return from all over the world to the Holy Land.

Next: There are no indigenous, racial or ethic Palestinian people, and neither they or any other Arabs have any historical claim to Israel. None! Yet, despite all of this, it is the truth that with few exceptions Muslims/Arabs hate all Jews, the Palestinian militant groups, most Islamic militant groups and most orthodox Muslims are absolutely committed to the death of every Jew on earth, their total annihilation as a people and total control of all of Israel and the Middle East.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Should we give Texas, Arizona and California back to Mexico?  I mean they were their before we were.

To state that the Palestinians have no claim to that land is simply not true.  They were there.  The claim might not be as ancient as the Jews, but it is no less valid.  How long in history must we go back to determine who owns land?

The Israel is ever going to live in peace both the Jews and the Palestinians are going to have to learn to share.

What Hawk said.

Neiman
Its complex as ‘Jews’ are both a religious group and an ethnic group. Some that are religiously Jewish are not ethnically Jewish (maybe slavs for example). Some that are ethnically Jewish are not religiously Jewish (maybe atheists or buddhists for example). See?

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Hawk: 1. There is no such thing as an indigenous, racial or ethnic Palestinian people. 2. While Jordanian Arabs moved into a place falsely called Palestine and claimed to be Palestinians - there was never a time when Jews did not live there and made claim to that land. So their historical claim to Israel was never broken. 3. These people didn’t even call themselves Palestinians until after the United Nations recognized Israel. 4. Arabs and Muslims dominate the Middle East, the Palestinians are Jordanians and they are dedicated to the destruction of Israel.

As to giving back California, Texas and Arizona to the Mexicans; they can have California for all I care, they refuse to be part of our culture or use our langauge and they are the domiante race here now, then there is San Francisco and Hollywood that are not worth a damn, so yeah - give it back!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Should we give Texas, Arizona and California back to Mexico?  I mean they were their before we were.

Go to the Home Depot.  We already have…

Justin… I wanted to go to ASU so bad! BUT my granddad made me go back to Oklahoma. I did go to high school in paradise valley though… Sorry if I changed the subject.

Its complex as ‘Jews’ are both a religious group and an ethnic group.

All the more reason to choose the sensible alternative of letting the Jews define for themselves who is, and who is not, Jewish.  I recall a rather substantial and expensive effort by Israel to rescue a large number of Ethiopian and Sudanese Jews and bring them to Israel several years ago.  Apparently both Sephardim and Ashkenzim are welcome in Israel, and that ought to be their choice.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

And saying Mexico is short sighted.  Give it to the Native tribes that were here before the Spanish colonization.  Mexico is run by the Spanish not the indigenous people.

What you imply is that colonists cannot ever own title to anything because somewhere, someone else owned it before them.  Give things back to Ugh or to Adam or Noah (if you don’t believe in Reality--I mean Evolution...).  For that matter, give it back to the Monkeys if you do.

Israel was not colonized by “Palestinians”, they don’t as a race or people exist.  They are Arabs that settled in Israel and some very much do have title to a portion of it.  But we are not talking about farm land or a house.  We are talking about a holy site which transcends simple colonial title.  Religious shrines should hold at least some special significance above simple property rights, but not the extent that other uses are completely excluded.  The Muslims destroyed any reminance of the Temple and built a Mosque atop it when they pushed the Jews and Christians out.  The Muslims and Jews should have rights to visit their holy places, but as of right now, the Jews don’t. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Aqsa_Mosque

Al-Aqsa Mosque (The Farthest Mosque) commonly refers to the southern congregational mosque that is part of the complex of religious buildings in Jerusalem known as Al-Haram al-Qudsi al-Sharif (the Noble Sanctuary) to Arabs and Muslims, although the whole area of the Noble Sanctuary is considered Al-Aqsa Mosque according to Islamic law. It is known as Har ha-Bayit (the Temple Mount) to Jews and Christians. It is located in East Jerusalem, a disputed territory governed as part of Israel since its annexation in 1967 but claimed by the Palestinian Authority as part of a future State of Palestine. The largest and most ancient[citation needed] mosque in Palestine, its congregation building can accommodate about 5,000 people worshipping inside it, while the whole Al-Aqsa Mosque compound area may accommodate hundreds of thousands. The government of Israel has granted a Muslim Council, Waqf, full administration of the site. Since the beginning of the Al-Aqsa Intifada in 2000, non-Muslims are barred from entering the site.

You mean the temple that the Jews have been barred from entering for the last 7 years that the Muslims want back?  That one?  Go back 1000 years--you mean to 1000 BC?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_in_Jerusalem

The First Temple was built by King Solomon in the 10th century BCE. It was the center of ancient Judaism and has remained a focal point for Jewish services over the millennia. The Temple replaced the Tabernacle of Moses and the Tabernacles at Shiloh, Nov, and Givon as the central focus of Jewish faith. This First Temple was destroyed by the Babylonians in 586 BCE, and was rebuilt seventy years later, c. 515 BCE. Centuries later, it was renovated by Herod in about 20 BCE, and this Second Temple was subsequently destroyed by the Romans in 70 CE. All of the outer walls still stand, although the Temple itself has long since been destroyed, and for many years it was believed that the western wall of the complex was the only wall standing.

Go Devils…

Great school and great place to go to school.  Now the second largest university in the country. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_United_States_universities_by_enrollment

1.  51,818: The Ohio State University - Columbus, OH
2.  51,234: Arizona State University (Tempe Campus) - Tempe, AZ
3.  50,912: University of Florida - Gainesville, FL
5.  49,738: The University of Texas - Austin, TX

That is why ASU is consistently mentioned as a contender for Football and Basketball national titles every year, just like Florida, Texas and Ohio State.

It is a fun place to play!