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Tuesday, July 29, 2008

Say No to GMOs

In 1980 the supreme court legalized the patenting of manmade organic lifeforms.

How does the ‘natural use’ crowd feel about that?

I am against GMOs - have been for a long time. Its the conservative position, no? I encourage you to join me.

Those thick skinned apples might ship well, but they are an abomination on nature.

Comments

sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle,

Men have been cross breading plants and animals longer than they have been keeping written records.  Only the tools have changed.


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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on July 29, 2008 at 10:56 pm

Civilization began when man genetically altered grasses into wheat and rice. Only the method differed.


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pparets on July 30, 2008 at 06:24 am

Civilization began when man genetically altered grasses into wheat and rice. Only the method differed.

IT BEGAN IN AFRICA!

Did they patent it and sue farmers?

Also, crossbreeding and plant husbandry is different than GMOs.


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on July 30, 2008 at 06:29 am

sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle,

Men have been cross breading plants and animals longer than they have been keeping written records.  Only the tools have changed.


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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on July 30, 2008 at 06:33 am

Did they patent it and sue farmers?


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on July 30, 2008 at 07:54 am

Were there intellectual property laws in place which would have allowed the producers of certain cross breeds to sue those who either re-created the cross or used it without the originators permission?


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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on July 30, 2008 at 08:00 am

Now we can crossbreed
plants with animals.

I look forward to sesame, basil chickens
and planting their bones in a pot of
soil so I never run out.

WOOF on July 30, 2008 at 09:03 am

Now they’re saying GMOs will be the trick to the whole ethanol thing. BS.

In Vermont no one can put the ‘Real Vermont’ label on their products if they are GMO. THat ain’t real. I lobbied for and am proud of that.


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on July 30, 2008 at 09:32 am

sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle,

I encourage you to just say no to all Genetically Modified Foods, Medicines, and other products.


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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on July 30, 2008 at 10:44 am

Patented hybridized plants appear on the market all of the time, and the patent process is what allows people to invest heavily in the development of these new hybrids, knowing that the fruits of their labor will more than compensate their original investment.

Hybrids bred for a specific trait are genetically engineered every bit as much as what you call GMOs.  The distinction is they don’t have fly DNA in them for example:

My point is genetic manipulation is a separate issue from the new host of problems associated with combing DNA from otherwise incompatible sources.

This illustrates why one needs some scientific literacy if they are going to be talking about these kinds of issues in a coherent fashion.  That is a common problem in the so-called philosophy of science community as well, IMHO.

Carrick on July 30, 2008 at 10:57 am
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I can’t join this crusade.
That would mean the end of many colors of flowers available at WalMart

RebTex on July 30, 2008 at 01:00 pm

Coal dyes come from genetic modifications, RebTex?  :^)

Actually, most of your thick skinned apples and weirdly colored flowers are still the product of basic hybridization, not GMO.  They’ve been around since the 1950s and longer.

And for reference, a classical liberal/conservative way of approaching this is to say that the government’s role in GMO technology is to simply protect property rights until it becomes clear that someone’s rights are being violated.

Oh, and for what it’s worth, the only GMO foodstuff I’m aware of is corn, which is used for animal feed and fuel hooch, not people food.

Bike Bubba on July 31, 2008 at 11:17 am
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