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There is only one race - the human race!

There is only one skin color - Flesh! Different tones, shades and hues to be sure, but we are all, one skin color.

Dirrerent cultural understandings? You bet! I get around my black grandson or other black men and quickly I am lost as to their language and references.

I don’t like bad black people or bad white people!

Everyone should have the same chance to succeed or fall on their butts. If we fall on our butts, rather than our first instincts being the national tit, we need to suck it up and go after the brass ring again.

I have a late half-brother and a living half-sister that are Americam Indian. Besides my grandson there are too many blacks in my family to count. Got a few Hispanics and Asians too. My late parents were Christian ministers that taught us all from babies not to judge other people, we lived for a time where my middle brother and I were the only two white kinds in our school in Richmond, California.

My point to all this, I never had any choice, I was raised to believe the way I do; but I suspect it was and is a lot harder for those raised differently and I don’t judge or hate them either. That includes the late Senator Helms, he had his good and bad points and I’m leaving the sorting out to the Lord.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Thank you, watashiwa.  You are what I call an adult who can think thru ideas and decide with an open mind the best points.  Neiman has just added a few pieces of information that should add credibility to many points he has made.  This is why I come here--for The Truth.  There are a few who are unable to think like adults, but I have decided to ignore them, because there are too many others like watashiwa who I have come to respect and see reciprocation.

Happy 4th of July!

Communism is evil

You cannot engage in any debate with a thin skin. When you come to the table, you better be wearing your full armor or stay home.

Take your own advice, w!

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

You cannot engage in any debate with a thin skin. When you come to the table, you better be wearing your full armor or stay home.
robert108 on July 4, 2008 at 05:54 pm

Take W’s advice, uncle Robert.

Watashiwa:

You cannot engage in any debate with a thin skin.

I think everyone at SAB already understands and agrees with the truth of your statement. Indeed, we have all been called every name in the book and applied the same vulgarities to others.

However, there is a vast difference between calling someone a name and accusing them of criminal behavior - particularly a crime as ugly as child pornography. 

Had you called me a xenophobe, a racist, an asshole or any other label you might have chosen, you would have been on safe - albeit incorrect - ground. 

But as so many others have already pointed out, what you did was wrong. And it has nothing to do with thin or thick skin.

I will say no more on this subject.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“Glory is not a conceit. It is not a decoration for valor. Glory belongs to the act of being constant to something greater than yourself, to a cause, to your principles, to the people on whom you rely, and who rely on you in return.”
Senator John McCain, Faith of Our fathers

e hypocrite:  Making false accusations isn’t “debate”.
I call you on your lies and personal attacks, and you squeal like a pig.  Take that advice yourself.
Here’s some more advice for you and the rest of your leftie lying troll buddiess:

Save the planet; kill yourself.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

Several months ago I posted my feelings on Affirmative Action and you blokes took me to task for that. Maybe you conservatives really are the closed minded people many Americans think you are.

Oh, boo-hoo! Someone called you out and now you’re lashing out.

So-called “affirmative action” is simply a form of skin color racism.  If racism is wrong, so-called “affirmative action” is wrong.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

Here’s some more advice for you and the rest of your leftie lying troll buddiess:
Save the planet; kill yourself.
robert108 on July 4, 2008 at 06:38 pm

Uncle Robert. Why so much hatred?

Uncle Robert. Why so much hatred?

You’re projecting, as usual; it’s disgust.

You only wish you were a relative of mine.  Your conceit is obscene.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

So, now The Pervert throws itself prostrate upon the ground, the poor injured party who only wanted a quiet, reasonable debate. What a load of crap.

Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

I can’t for the life of me figure out why someone who is left leaning would come to this site. I think it is great a conservative leaning blog.

Check out:
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Goon’s World

Nah! I am assuming that you are much older then me.
Just an affectionate and respectfull title before your name. If I were to call you Sir or Mr that IMO would put a distance between us. Since you and I have been debating for such a long time now I have come to know you as well as my uncle.
I don’t hate you, and I certainly don’t wish you dead. You don’t disgust me. I am amazed as to how such a good and inteligent debater can be so wrong about so many things.

I can’t for the life of me figure out why someone who is left leaning would come to this site. I think it is great a conservative leaning blog.
goon on July 4, 2008 at 06:27 pm

To give and receive intellectual stimulation!
Hell goon. You can’t have a good debate without opposing views.

After my posting of Lift Every Voice and Sing, Graves smugly stated there is only one National Anthem.

Is this a “smug statement”?

“We only have one national anthem,”

Perhaps a little context is in order: Just two days before your post, a singer substituted “Lift Evry Voice and Sing” when she was supposed to sing the National Anthem.  She seemed very smug about the reason she made, what she called “a switcheroonie”.

Perhaps the post you thought “would enlighten” was perceived as a veiled apologia for Ms. Switcheroonie?

Trolls. It’s what’s for breakfast!
And then I eat their lunch.

OMG! It just hit me! The enormity of Rodney Graves and Barack Obama saying almost exactly the same thing! Yikes!

Trolls. It’s what’s for breakfast!
And then I eat their lunch.

To give and receive intellectual stimulation!
Hell goon. You can’t have a good debate without opposing views.

Actually I am not in the habit of quoting rodents, but this is quite true.  I’ve visited a few fora which maintained ideological purity and I have to say, they seemed pretty stagnant.

In one sense I get the impression that the Leftists only come here and say outrageous bullshit because it’s all an effort to make Conservative’s heads explode.

Then again, it may well be that they are really like Mr. Garrison’s Mr. Slave and are really here to get verbally abused because they have been so very very badddd.

...for great justice

You can’t have a good debate without opposing views.

You can’t have any sort of debate when one side can only present personal attacks.  I guess you don’t know what “debate” means, either.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

Just an affectionate and respectfull title before your name.

You lie again.  You are the epitome of disrespect.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

You lie again.  You are the epitome of disrespect.
If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.
robert108 on July 4, 2008 at 07:20 pm

Uncle Robert. No I don’t lie. Accept the compliment. Don’t be a sourpuss. You may not get another compliment for a long time.
As far as the personal attacks go, you are overstating the issue. Stop calling people names. Maybe then people will reciprocate.
Try this for a change. Instead of calling people you debate with liers say: IMO you are mistaken. Or you are mistaken because.....
Now uncle Robert have a good night.

Stop calling people names. Maybe then people will reciprocate.

Bullshit!  You started with namecalling and personal attack, and that makes you a hypocrite.  Why don’t you set the example of what you say you want?  You amplified Ken’s multiple lying personal attacks on me, and so any bullshit from you about anything I say is nonsense.  Clean up your own act.
When you lie; I expose it, and when you continue to lie to defend your previous lies, that makes you a liar.  Stop lying, and I will have no reason to call you a liar.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

BTW, I don’t call everyone who disagrees with me a liar.  That’s simply another lie from you.  I first start with exposing the false information they have given; if they persist in their ignorance, and continue to pile one falsehood on top of another, then I call them what they are. The first false statment could be ignorance, but succeeding ones, in the face of facts and logic to the contrary, show the intent to deceive.
In your case, you have been lying for a very long time, so I rarely waste time going over any substantive arguments again and again.  You willfully ignore the truth.  I don’t believe your “compliment”, either.  It’s just more deceit from you.
You lost all credibility with me a long time ago, and have done nothing to re-establish it.  In fact, you continue in your same dishonesty in comment after comment.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

w[h]atashi[t]wa[d] whines:

After my posting of Lift Every Voice and Sing, Graves smugly stated there is only one National Anthem. I do not feel anything to the contrary.

What say we review and add the missing context.

Lift Ev’ry Voice and Sing is in the news, and thus in the public eye, because of this:

‘Black national anthem’ stirs controversy for city

DENVER - Mayor John Hickenlooper’s annual State of the City address may get more attention for what wasn’t included than what was.

At the start of the event Tuesday morning, City Council President Michael Hancock introduced singer Rene Marie to perform the national anthem.

Instead, she performed the song “Lift Ev’ry Voice and Sing,” which is also known as the “black national anthem.”

When she finished, the audience responded with mild applause. The national anthem was never performed.

...

“When I decided to sing my version, what was going on in my head was: ‘I want to express how I feel about living in the United States, as a black woman, as a black person,’” said Marie.

...

City Councilman Charlie Brown took to talk radio Tuesday afternoon to criticize the absence of the national anthem at the State of the City proceedings.

“There is no substitute for the national anthem, period,” Brown said. “And that’s what really bothered me. You know when we fly the flag, the American flag, it’s always the highest flag, as it should be. And that didn’t come across today, that didn’t happen today.”

Which was covered by pparets in his Denver Gets New National Anthem post (which I attempted to link to, but which link failed due to an issue with Rob’s search engine).

She was there to sing the National Anthem.  I don’t care what she chose to sing instead of the National Anthem.  Nor do I care about the history of the piece she chose to sing in place of the National Anthem.

I care very much that she deemed that substitution appropriate, and that others defend that substitution.

One Nation.

One People (those who self identify as ”Americans”.

One Constitution.

One National Anthem.

.

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Proof pointed out:

Is this a “smug statement”?
“We only have one national anthem...”
-Barack Obama to the Rocky Mountain News Thursday.

Which I was unaware of until I read it here.

Proof then added (in a subsequent comment):

OMG! It just hit me! The enormity of Rodney Graves and Barack Obama saying almost exactly the same thing! Yikes!

Even a machine politician from Chicago gets that which eludes w[h]atashi[t]wa[d].

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Several months ago I posted my feelings on Affirmative Action and you blokes took me to task for that. Maybe you conservatives really are the closed minded people many Americans think you are.

So...we’re close-minded because we disagree with you on affirmative action?

Which one of us is close minded again?

Oh, and by the way, I’m not sure I’m willing to listen to lectures about the nature of discourse on this site from someone who just finished up accusing, without any factual basis, a fellow commenter of liking kiddie porn.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Rob’s recently listened-to songs:

Rob, I responded to Watashiwa’s self-serving, hypocritical post near the beginning of this thread. I am grateful that you - and many others - called him on his libelous and outrageous accusation.

2hotel9’s post is right on target!

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“Glory is not a conceit. It is not a decoration for valor. Glory belongs to the act of being constant to something greater than yourself, to a cause, to your principles, to the people on whom you rely, and who rely on you in return.”
Senator John McCain, Faith of Our fathers

pparets

Watashiwa’s self-serving, hypocritical post

perhaps you should use epithets on others that are not apt descriptions of your own behavior.

In what way, gas-mask?

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“Glory is not a conceit. It is not a decoration for valor. Glory belongs to the act of being constant to something greater than yourself, to a cause, to your principles, to the people on whom you rely, and who rely on you in return.”
Senator John McCain, Faith of Our fathers

BTW, I don’t call everyonewho......... ........fact, you continue in your same dishonesty in comment after comment.
robert108 on July 4, 2008 at 09:20 pm

The fact that I view and interpret things differently that the way you do does not mean I am lying. I am not out to deceive you or anyone else.That is what and how I see things.
I offered an olive branch. You did not accept it. Fine by me. The loss is yours. As I pointed out earlier: “. I am amazed as to how such a good and inteligent debater can be so wrong about so many things.”
Well I was neither wrong nor mistaken judging from your answer. Why are you so paranoid?
For the last time: Loosen up and enjoy life.

Why are you so paranoid?

I’m not; you lie again.  Your “olive branch” contained no apologies for your many lying personal attacks on me, and so was pure bullshit.  You have no value to me whatsoever, so I am experiencing no “loss” here.  In fact, I would be quite happy if you never tried to address me again.  That would be a gain for me.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

Why are you so paranoid?
I’m not; you lie again.

I would be quite happy if you never tried to address me again.  That would be a gain for me.
robert108 on July 5, 2008 at 11:16 am

Uncle Robert. I interpreted your innability to accept an olive branch as paranoia. And what did you do? You said I am lying again, as though I have an ulterior motive.

As far as not addressing you again, that is wishfull thinking in your part. I will not allow you to go unchallenged. Far too many times you are mistaken. Far too many times you twist and stretch the truth to suit your point of view. Monogamy comes to mind as it is the most recent example.

I interpreted your innability to accept an olive branch as paranoia.

One: you are supremely unqualified to “interpret” for me; Two: If you had done the right thing, and had apologized for your many lying personal attacks on me, it would have been a real “olive branch”.  Since you didn’t; I recognized your lie for what it was.

I will not allow you to go unchallenged.

Another lie from you; it is I who constantly refutes your lies, ignorant and misleading statements.

You said I am lying again, as though I have an ulterior motive.

Of course you do.

Monogamy comes to mind as it is the most recent example.

Absolutely.  You made two glaring mistakes and I busted you for them.  Since then, you have compounded your original ignorance with numerous lies and personal attacks.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

You said: One: you are supremely unqualified to “interpret” for me;
robert108 on July 5, 2008 at 11:06 am

Now notice how you twist things.
What I said was: “Uncle Robert. I interpreted your innability to accept an olive branch as paranoia.”

It is obvious that no attempt was made by me to interpret anything for you.

Did you lie or what?

Did you lie or what?

No. You used the verb “interpreted”, and now you lie to cover your ignorant mistake.  I have no “inability” to accept a sincere apology from you for your many lies and personal attacks; you have yet to do that.  Your so-called “olive branch” was a lie; you offered only a meaningless, empty gesture.
Here’s how it works: repentance, atonement, forgiveness.
You have yet to repent your lying and personal attacking ways.
You continue to lie about my being your “uncle”.  Your intent is to lie and smear, and your every comment proves that.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

Actually the lefties keep us all sharp.  I welcome them, even if they do get a bit tiring now and then.

Regarding affirmative action, how is that not institutionalized racism?

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

You are splitting hairs uncle Robert. You are doing something you are supremely qualified to do.
Fine by me. Your loss.

Your loss.

You lie again; I have already told you your silence toward me would be a definite gain.  Your bullshit “olive branch” is meaningless without a full repentance from you for your many lies and personal attacks, and that’s just to me.  You owe almost every other non-troll commenter here a full apology for your crap.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

r108,

Spit upon or smack overcompensating elinas the shy and move on.

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Hello beloved Rodney!

Your loss.

You lie again; I have already told you your silence toward me would be a definite gain.  Your bullshit “olive branch” is meaningless without a full repentance from you for your many lies and personal attacks, and that’s just to me. You owe almost every other non-troll commenter here a full apology for your crap.
robert108 on July 5, 2008 at 05:50 pm

Apology? For what. For your having a fight with almost everyone here? For your continued mischaracterisation of peoples statements and opinions? For what. I owe you no apology. The olive branch was just a gesture for a more civilised discourse.
And yes your loss. That is my conclusion of this exchange. Yet true to form, you called it a lie.
What a shame.

The olive branch was just a gesture for a more
civilised discourse.

A meaningless gesture, since you don’t ever engage in civilized discourse.  You just troll.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

So...we’re close-minded because we disagree with you on affirmative action?

Which one of us is close minded again?

This is the same mind set that calls us righties illinformed if we are not drinking the Obama koolaid.

If we question Obama it is ill concieved and if we don’t like Obama or his leftist/Marist view we are some how a racist.

Check out:
Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World

That last comment wasn’t just directed at W, but other Liberals of the same ilk as well.

Check out:
Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World