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Evangelical Christians

Bunch of crazies. The whole lot of them.

That’s funny; this is the first I’ve heard about the two Buddhists in office. Congratulations Hank Johnson and Mazie Hirono!

Why do they deserve congratulations?  Religion shouldn’t matter for public office.

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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Why do they deserve congratulations?

Because they got elected to Congress.

I’ll congratulate you when you win as well.

Right, Davey.  That’s why you said it.  Just because they got elected to Congress, not because they got elected and they’re Buddhist or whatever.

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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Rob’s recently listened-to songs:

I think it’s great that members of a minority religion could get elected to Congress. I hope it shows that voters are not providing as much emphasis on religion as they have in the past (if they’re willing to vote for someone who belongs to a different one).

I have no idea why you’re so upset, either. Is it just because they’re Democrats?

I’m just acting like you do.  Pick some inane line of argument and then take it to the extreme.

The Constitution states that there shall be no religious test for federal office.  I wouldn’t care if these guys worshiped Satan as long as they were financially responsible and honest leaders.

Because to me, religion doesn’t matter.  Apparently it does to you.

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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Rob’s recently listened-to songs:

Because to me, religion doesn’t matter.

Nor to me, but it does to a lot of voters. I think the election of these two Buddhists is a positive development--a first step to getting an atheist in office (which is what you are, nominally). Religion itself doesn’t bother me; the decisions people make as a result of religious faith is the problem. If we could downgrade the importance of religion in terms of public office, that’d be a good thing.

If we could downgrade the importance of religion in terms of public office, that’d be a good thing.

Which is totally in conflict to you getting all misty-eyed about a couple of Buddhists getting into office.

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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Rob’s recently listened-to songs:

Perhaps, if you hadn’t read any of my other posts in this thread. Since you have, I’m confused as to why you’re acting as though you haven’t.

I have read every single one of your posts in this thread.

You can’t say that religion doesn’t matter, and then say that you’re happy two people got into Congress while being Buddhist.

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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Rob’s recently listened-to songs:

I don’t know what you want, Rob. I’m not going to repost everything I’ve already written.

Rob: Dave’s still in denial that atheism is a religion.

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If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Religion is abolished in Mother Russia’s grand plan!

We are winning!

America the weak!

I’m still scratching my head over the following fact:

Of the 43 Jewish members of Congress, there is only one Jewish Republican in the House and two in the Senate.

not on the fact Jews prefer the Dem party, but on how lopsided the numbers are i.e. the margin..

Anon: I’ve never understood why Jews would support the Democrats at all. What are the big issues on which the majority of Jews and Democrats agree?

For starters, Democrats aren’t the party of wackjob evangelical christians.

"wackjob evangelical christians”? 

Chad,

You mean the ones Jefferson called the greatest friends of liberty?

For starters, Democrats aren’t the party of wackjob evangelical christians.

I’d suggest that Democrats aren’t the party of any sort of Christians at all.

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“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One,

A couple of years ago I had the privilege of attending a press conference at Fuller Theological Seminary in CA.  The purpose of which was to define New Evangelicalism for the MSM.  I was shocked at the liberalism that was clearly on display.  To some in this NE camp, Jesus was nothing more than a modern day democrat.  It was very bizarre to say the least.

HG,

Yours is by no means the only such experience.

Writer Matt May, whose blog is here and whose excellent work has appeared in the American Spectator and the American Thinker, offered this short report on a late October conference he attended at Emory University’s Candler School of Theology (Methodist) here in Atlanta.  Note the slogan in the upper right corner of the Website, “Reforming the Church’s Social and Political Witness.”

And here I thought that churches (tax-exempt) mixing religion and politics was ALWAYS constitutionally impermissible.  Silly me!  Those sorts of strictures apply only to conservatives… not liberals.  It is truly amazing the vast array of rationalizations available to liberals once they forswear the sorts of principles that guide the thoughts and behavior of normal Americans.

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“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Anon: I’ve never understood why Jews would support the Democrats at all. What are the big issues on which the majority of Jews and Democrats agree?

Jews generally live in the big cities of the Northeast (i.e. NYC, Boston, Philly, Baltimore ..very liberal on social issues.  As well as other famously bastion of liberalism (e.g. Miami, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago).

..wikipedia is my friend. ...

It’s more drastic than I thought.

Jews seem to be MORE reliably for the Democrats than even the African-American vote:

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edit] Politics and Civil Rights
The German Jews were primarily Republicans. However the Yiddish speakers were either Socialists (especially if they were connected with the garment industry), or nonpolitical until the 1930s. Polls showed Jews gave 90% support to Democrats Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry S. Truman in the elections of 1940, 1944 and 1948. They gave about a third of their vote to Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1952 and 1956. In 1960 Jews voted 83% for Catholic Democrat John F. Kennedy. In 1964, when the Republicans nominated arch-conservative Barry Goldwater, of Jewish descent, 90% of Jews voted for his opponent. [1] Since 1968 Jews have voted about 70%-80% Democratic, surging to 87% for Democratic House candidates in 2006.[2] After the 2006 elections there were 13 Jews in the Senate (up from 11) and 30 in the House (up from 24).[3]

Jews were leaders of movements for civil rights for all Americans, including themselves and African Americans. Seymour Siegel argues the historic struggle against prejudice faced by Jewish people led to a natural sympathy for any people confronting discrimination. This further led Jews to dialogue about the relationship they had with African Americans. Joachim Prinz, president of the American Jewish Congress, stated the following at the March on Washington on 28 August 1963: “As Jews we bring to this great demonstration, in which thousands of us proudly participate, a twofold experience--one of the spirit and one of our history” [4] Yet there was dissension within Judaism about this civil rights involvement. Rabbi Bernard Wienberger exemplified this point of view, warning that “northern liberal Jews” put at risk southern Jews who faced hostility from white southerners because of their northern counterparts. Jewish responses to the civil rights movement and black relations lean toward acceptance and activism against prejudice, demonstrating the important role that this community played in race relations during the 1960s. [5]

so, ..what’s more Democratic than the black vote? ..the jewish vote.