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Thursday, August 16, 2007

Questions for the Anti-War, Anti-American Zealots

The following questions are posed to anyone wishing to defend the anti-war position.  The questions are asked so as to highlight the left’s committment to America’s defeat in Iraq. 

What has the your side done to victoriously end the war in Iraq? 

What has your side done to hasten our victory in Iraq?

Who deserves credit for any positive news or success in Iraq?

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What has the your side done to victoriously end the war in Iraq?

The only thing that will end American blood shed for Israel, is if mases of true Patriots march to Washington with rope and arms.

What has your side done to hasten our victory in Iraq?

There is no victory for America, only Israel.

Who deserves credit for any positive news or success in Iraq?

There will never be any positive news for Americans, until this worthless bloodshed for Israel is over and whats left of our brothers and sisters come home.

WETBACK on August 16, 2007 at 04:43 pm
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The only thing that will end American blood shed for Israel, is if mases of true Patriots march to Washington with rope and arms.

So the only way to end the war is to go to war with your own government?

There is no victory for America, only Israel.

America can’t win, but Israel can?

There will never be any positive news for Americans,

So no matter what is reported, it is bad news even if it is good news?

This is way to easy.  Everything that has been said about your side is proven true by your own words.

HG on August 16, 2007 at 04:53 pm

Wetback:

There is no victory for America, only Israel.

That sounds very anti-Semitic (Read that anti-Jewish) to me! Once I said your recommendations to quarantine and/or kill TS people was reminiscent of Nazi policies against social undesirables and now your Jewish prejudice makes me think my former remarks were not far off the mark.

There will never be any positive news for Americans, until this worthless bloodshed for Israel is over and whats left of our brothers and sisters come home.

Please understand I am not talking below for Say Anything or any of its faithful Lieutenants:

Worthless, having no value!

We brought down an evil, murderous dictator, that seems like a mighty useful thing to his potential victims, including the rape victims, the gassed Kurds and Iranians. We brought the Iraqi people freedom to choose their own constitution and government, that seems like a pretty useful thing to me. We built modern schools and hospitals and are helping rebuild their infrastructure and those seem like useful things to me. If we succeed we will have established a second democracy in the Middle East to bring hope to Muslims tired of the terrorism and that seems useful to me as well.

The only thing that will end American blood shed for Israel, is if mases of true Patriots march to Washington with rope and arms.

You are recommending armed insurrection, the violent overthrow of our legally instituted government and if this statement of yours was reported to the FBI, I suspect they might have a negative view of your sedition.

But, remember, according to the Say Anything Lieutenants, I am a paranoid, hate mongering moron and so my opinion has no real importance or value.


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on August 16, 2007 at 05:05 pm
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If your going to Quote me at least include the full text of my comment.

So the only way to end the war is to go to war with your own government?

You mean the government of Jewmerica, it’s not my government, my government is dead.

America can’t win, but Israel can?

What does America win? more bases in the middle east?

So no matter what is reported, it is bad news even if it is good news?

Good news for who?

WETBACK on August 16, 2007 at 05:06 pm
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That sounds very anti-Semitic (Read that anti-Jewish) to me! Once I said your recommendations to quarantine and/or kill TS people was reminiscent of Nazi policies against social undesirables and now your Jewish prejudice makes me think my former remarks were not far off the mark.

Your a genius what can I tell ya. your wrong but hey I’m not going to belittle you.

You are recommending armed insurrection, the violent overthrow of our legally instituted government and if this statement of yours was reported to the FBI, I suspect they might have a negative view of your sedition.

Your right Hate speech, look out. I’m guilty before I commit a crime. How dare me. Free speech shouldn’t allow me to make comments like that.

As for the other: Lets worry about America and F the rest of the world.

WETBACK on August 16, 2007 at 05:14 pm

Wetback: I did not call you a Nazi, that would be name calling and I would not deliberately do that, what I said was “your recommendations to quarantine and/or kill TS people was reminiscent of Nazi policies against social undesirables and now your Jewish prejudice makes me think my former remarks were not far off the mark.” You’ll notice I said your comments were suggestive of Nazi policies, not that you were one.

You are recommending armed insurrection, the violent overthrow of our legally instituted government and if this statement of yours was reported to the FBI, I suspect they might have a negative view of your sedition. You’re right [that is] Hate speech, look out. I’m guilty before I commit a crime. How dare me. Free speech shouldn’t allow me to make comments like that.

Please tell me when you were recommending that people take ropes (hanging) and arms (weapons) and march into Washington to end the Iraq War, isn’t that the same thing as calling for insurrection (rebellion against the government) and an act of sedition (inciting armed rebellion against the government,) versus simple Free Political Speech? If I am wrong, please explain the difference to me. Isn’t it Free Political Speech to speak against government policies, but when you encourage by your words others to take up arms and overthrow the government, is that still simple Free Political Speech?


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on August 16, 2007 at 05:46 pm
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This is my Quote:

The only thing that will end American blood shed for Israel, is if mases of true Patriots march to Washington with rope and arms

Did I recommend anything here?

The Declaration Of Independence

“ ...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness...”

What would you call this?

WETBACK on August 16, 2007 at 05:58 pm

Wetback: Let me change that then to say you seemed to be suggesting a course of action. Then I looked up recommendation and it means to suggest so we are back to square one. But, just for the sake of arguement, what if others act out on that suggestion, when do your remarks fall under the definitions for insurrection and sedition?

I love The Declaration of Independence, I also believe the Second Amendment is there precisely so we can defend oursleves against the tyranny of the government. But, despite the fact we have the right to overthrow such a government if needs be, it is insurrection and sedition until and unless you are succesful, no?


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on August 16, 2007 at 06:16 pm
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But, despite the fact we have the right to overthrow such a government if needs be, it is insurrection and sedition until and unless you are succesful, no?

so we are back to square one?

I don’t think I suggested anything, I believe I just made a comment. I’m kinda dumb but it to me it’s nothing more than an opinion. Do opinions always have to begin with “My opinion is?”

If I said This government is evil and should be overthrown. Is this calling for insurrection?

I think perhaps your scared of your own government.

WETBACK on August 16, 2007 at 06:31 pm

That sounds very anti-Semitic (Read that anti-Jewish) to me!—Neiman

Israel is a state with a populace of many ethnicities and religions. Opposing a state is different to opposing one of its component ethnicities or religions.

The Israeli state has committed many war-crimes, so to oppose this criminal entity is different to opposing the population (which have also been victims).


“All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.”
“Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.” —George Orwell

Anarchist Vegetarian on August 16, 2007 at 06:50 pm
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