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Sparkie,
I would agree with Spinoza but in another way,

anyone who makes theology the servant of reason and philosophy will be obliged to accept as divinely inspired the prejudices of the common people of antiquity and let his mind be taken over and clouded by them.

That includes Spinoza.

Sorry Sparkie, Reason and Philosophy are the enemy of faith.  The basis for me to approach all of life is that first Faith in God who is unchanging then in men’s reason and philosophy which change with the wind.

That is the reality I and many of my faith hold as true.  Not the philosophy and reason of some long dead men but the truth of a true and living God.

If of course you don’t believe in that true and living God then all you have left is the pitiful slippery slope of men’s reason and philosophy.

Therein lies the difference between faith and men’s reason.

I’ll take Jesus thank you.

the AVATAR
Old Tigers are more dangerous when they believe this could be their last hunt.

From , “The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen”
Old tigers, sensing the end,
they’re at their most fierce. 
And they go down fighting.

Sorry Sparkie, Reason and Philosophy are the enemy of faith.

In other words, there is no reasoning of God.

I wouldn’t have put it that way myself, but if you insist.

If of course you don’t believe in that true and living God then all you have left is the pitiful slippery slope of men’s reason and philosophy.

That’s very circular.

“That true and living God” was reasoned up by man and carried on down by man. Science (uh oh!) is finding that spirituality and even the concept of God might be a physical part of our brains. It all may be an evolution of sorts involving our brains.

But you deny evolution as well. You discount the possibility that evolution just may be the hand of God. You are limiting your vision.

When you take reason out of the equation, you deny the possibilities and you also deny that capability that God gave you.

I’ll take Jesus thank you.

You act as if this is an either/or proposition.

It’s not.

lIQ

In other words, there is no reasoning of God.

I wouldn’t have put it that way myself, but if you insist.

It depends on who your God is.  If he is the infinite creator of all things by the power of his word, everlasting, before there was anything there was God and after everything is gone again in the big crunch there will still be God, if he’s the God that conquered all death, if he is the God that lives in the hearts of men yet says to them, my thoughts are higher than your thougts, my ways are higher than your ways, higher than the heavens are from the earth (which according to recent measures are billions of light years high above us).

If the only god you have is one you can reason you don’t have God.  You have a false religion, an idol.

So, Jesus is an either or.  Either He is God in Flesh or he is an imposter and you should reject him.

The arrogance of people who think by their petty reason and philosophy can even a fragment of understanding acheive in the true knowledge of God is compleltely inane.  God is knowable only in spirit and is revealed only in spirit.  All the understandig in the world of who he is other than by the spirit is foolishness in a profoundly foolish way.

The god of man’s construct is no god. The God of all the ages is God.  Jesus is his name.

That’s the reality, anything else is reason and philosophy.

the AVATAR
Old Tigers are more dangerous when they believe this could be their last hunt.

From , “The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen”
Old tigers, sensing the end,
they’re at their most fierce. 
And they go down fighting.

Either Jesus is God and no man can dare give Him mere human counsel, or He is a liar or a lunatic, no other conclusions are possible. If He is one of the latter two, He is not a good man, a great philosopher, and He is not God and Christianity is a lie. If the former is true those that do not bow down to Him and obey Him as regards Salvation are lost.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Gene - If he is the infinite creator of all things by the power of his word, everlasting...

You’re reasoning the existence of God here. Granted, that reasoning leads you to faith, but it’s still reason.

Much of the believer’s gospel is reasoning for God, about God, our purpose (as according to various religions and denominations of course), and etcetera.

I’m going to go ahead and say that reasoning is your biggest tool in spreading the Christian gospel.

The arrogance of people who think by their petty reason and philosophy can even a fragment of understanding acheive in the true knowledge of God is compleltely inane.

Well, yeah. The concepts we are discussing make that kind of obvious (at least I think it does). If one grants the God concept for the sake of argument, it’s a silly position to take that one could even approach the God level of understanding. Even a non-believer would be remiss in saying that they could understand the true knowledge of God. Arrogant is right.

The God of all the ages is God.  Jesus is his name.

The concept of God has existed in almost all cultures, even far-flung unconnected ones. You could claim that this is the “God of all the ages”. This might be evidence in favor of God’s existence.

The concept of Jesus, on the contrary, is only known because it has been passed on down by man.

You know how much of a lying son-of-a-bitch that man creature is. Or should know, in any regard.

Reason that one out.

All the understandig in the world of who he is other than by the spirit is foolishness in a profoundly foolish way.

Ahhh! That’s too much preachin’ right there!

It’s all good though, Gene. I enjoy our talks on this subject. You make me think and you rack my brain. No lie, either. I often take five mile walks (best time to think) and I’ll sometimes be going over some of these kinds of conversations that we’ve had. I am much obliged for that.