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So, Obama gets the presumption of innocence, but Mark Foley doesn’t…

If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

I think it’s more like written transcripts are considered more reliable than con artists.

"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced if the nation doesn’t want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
Cicero, 55 BC

So, Mark Foley is now an unindicted “con artist”, as well?  You sidestepped the presumption of innocence issue, I see, by an unsupported smear.
When you watch Obama bowl like a girl, you have to wonder…

If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

r108
pedophile apologist extra-ordinaire! back to bill clinton’s blowjob…

So, Mark Foley is now an unindicted “con artist”, as well?

No, Larry Sinclair is...try to stay with the tour.

"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced if the nation doesn’t want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
Cicero, 55 BC

Mike: None of your distraction changes the double standard here.  Mark Foley was smeared on the basis of unproven accusations; Obama went free from similar accusations because, unlike Foley, he was given the presumption of innocence by the MSM, instead of the presumption of guilt applied to Foley by the MSM.
Try to stay with the facts, please.

If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

Sparkie: How many way can you be wrong?  Mark Foley, even if anything had been proven, was never accused of being a pedophile, besides the morons in the MSM; he was accused of being overly friendly with adolescent boys, not pre-adolescent boys, which would actually be pedophilia.  Words do have meanings, you know.
Foley was never even indicted, he was just smeared for partisan political purposes by the Dem liars.
Clinton, on the other hand, actually did what he was accused of doing.  Big difference.  It’s a matter of history; you can look it up.

If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

r108...It’s not my fault that you don’t understand the differences in the two cases. Perhaps you should review the stories and get the facts straight in your mind before you talk about double standards.

At any rate, the account of the Sinclair press conference is funny and that is why I posted it.

"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced if the nation doesn’t want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
Cicero, 55 BC

Mike: More snotty dismissiveness from you.  Had Obama been a Republican, I’m guessing the MSM would have done a 24/7 smear job on the accusation.  Because he’s “the Messiah"(and a Dem), he gets the benefit of the “innocent until proven guilty” treatment, even to the extent that his accuser is smeared, instead.  Not so for Republicans so accused.  If you have a drop of honesty, you will admit the truth of this.
Clinton’s people smeared Monica and the rest of the women he diddled, even though everything they said turned out to be true.  Like I said: A clear double standard.  Too bad you are unable to admit the obvious truth here.

If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

It wouldn’t surprise me if Obama was a Brotha on the Down Low, that is, a covert bisexual. 

Whenever the figures or even the existence of the AIDs epidemic that is affecting the Black community is brought up, it is denigrated as alarmist and even as hate speech. 

Yet, US prison populations are disproportionately Black and Blacks tend to be disproportionately infected with HIV/AIDs, whether the causative conduct is tattoing, MSM (men having sex with men) or homosexual rape, those men thereafter are released and reenter the community, introducing the virus to those they have sex with.

Interestingly enough, black females constitute a large proportion of the newly-infected.  Where, or more to the point, from whom, are they getting the virus?

Sharing needles, blood transfusions are vectors, but
not so much oral but unprotected receptive anal sex seemed to be the leading transmission factor.

Still, I would like to hear more objective proof of those allegations before accepting them as true. 

By the same token, I don’t think they should be suppressed in the manner Clinton administration repeatedly suppressed embarrassing-but-true allegations (Berger Memos, Hillary’s out-of-date Whitewater Discovery, the missing Vince Foster files, thousands of WhoDB e-mails, and so on and so on.... )

...for great justice

Of course I’m dismissing your “comment”...it’s either that or ignore it. It’s usually best to use the second tactic with trolls but the more persistent ones deserve some sort of feedback once in a while.

Now quit hijacking my thread and go grumble about some other lefty plot and/or abomination.

"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced if the nation doesn’t want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
Cicero, 55 BC

Now quit hijacking my thread…

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Pure hypocrisy from you, Mike.  My point is a valid one, even if you are in denial about this obvious example of MSM bias.

If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Pure hypocrisy from you, Mike.

I have noticed that this tactic is one of your favourites in your bag of tricks. You have complained countless times about hijacks and yet when called yourself you’ll play the hypocrisy card. I don’t care about hijacks myself so long as they lay reasonably close to the topic at hand and the current example surely meets that test. You’re not as flexible in this regard which is certainly your right...not important but interesting nonetheless.

The difference between the two cases is that Foley admitted to inappropriate behaviour thus affirming the evidence available while Obama denies ever meeting Sinclair. I believe you’re complaining about allegations of physically sexual impropriety involving minors made against Foley which he has consistently denied, have never been the subject of legal proceedings and have never been specifically made in the MSM so far as I know.

Different cases entirely and irrelevant to my post which highlights an amusing press conference, Sinclair’s arrest and a lawyer’s explanation that he favours a kilt because it provides ample space for his prodigious member. You’re welcome to claim this as an example of media bias if you wish but I doubt even you can do it with a straight face.

"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced if the nation doesn’t want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
Cicero, 55 BC

Mike: Unlike you, I have no “bag of tricks”; I just call them like I see them.
Sorry I got you so grumpy.

If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

BTW, Mike, I see a probable smear attempt on Obama, and how the MSM deals with it by smearing the accuser.  Then I recall that when a Republican was smeared, the MSM participated in the smear.  I think that’s a valid point.  I want the Republicans to get the same treatment Obama got.  Then, there’s the Duke “rape” case, where the accused were smeared because they were “rich white boys"…

If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

Not grumpy at all so no need to apologise. I don’t think you’re quite getting my point as to why the cases are different but rather than waste your time any further I’ll just leave it there.

"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced if the nation doesn’t want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
Cicero, 55 BC

I’m surprised SA readers aren’t all over the Larry Sinclair news conference held yesterday in Washington.

Mike,

It doesn’t seem like much of “trick"… or a thread hijack… when you kinda offered the invitation in the first place.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

I don’t think you’re quite getting my point as to why the cases are different but rather than waste
your time any further I’ll just leave it there.

I’m making a different point, the one about the double standard in MSM coverage.  It’s pretty stark.
I know that every legal case is different in some particulars, of course.  If you want to try to sell the canard that the MSM somehow made a sober judgment about either of the cases, and proceeded on a factual basis, even though neither of them has yet to be adjudicated, feel free.  I don’t think you can make that case, so the fine details(the alleged ones, at least) are not determinative.

If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

B1..."kinda offered”?

r108...I usually try to address the thread’s topic at some point when I’m trolling but I can’t claim final authority on the practice so your point about the MSM double standard applied to the Foley and Obama cases is duly noted.

"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced if the nation doesn’t want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
Cicero, 55 BC

Mike,

Since its you… and I’m feeling generous this late evening…

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

move_zig

I don’t think they should be suppressed in the manner Clinton administration repeatedly suppressed

I think it was Reagan who waited until 40,000 people had the ‘highfive’ before announcing to the public it existed.

Mike: I wouldn’t describe what you do as “trolling”, but I’ll take your word for it.

If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

I’m not always trolling of course but I do have my vices.

"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced if the nation doesn’t want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
Cicero, 55 BC

Okay, the allegation seems pretty straightforward, if I can be allowed to use the word straight in combination with that statement.

Sinclair has challenged his boyfren Obama to a polygraph.  If he was lying, would he have made such a challenge?

I don’t think the original poster has any valid reason to complain about commentary that follows here in SAB, since after all, in posting the topic, he invited commentary.

...for great justice