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So you are going to attack the candidate on marriage who is still married to his first wife, not the candidate who left his first wife while having an affair?

This makes no sense.

Lots of people have doubts about marriage before getting married.  It looks like he decided it wasn’t.

McCain on the other hand ...

Hawk:
I did not attack Osambama, I only questioned how he might react to this issue as POTUS.

Next, he wasn’t having simple pre-marital doubts about getting married to Michelle, he was questioning the institution of marriage itself. That means he then felt marriage was outdated and despite getting married, we need to know if he feels the same way today.

McCain has nothing to do with this issue: Please concentrate on the subject of the thread, it involves Osamabama’s views on marriage as an institution and that alone.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

One would figure that after a few years of going to Jeremiah Wright’s church, a Christian perspective on marriage might have been presented to Obama that would have made such a scenario ludicrous to him.

That is, if he actually would be “paying attention” in church, he’d either know that the proper place for Christian sexuality is within marriage, or he’d have rejected that doctrine and left the church. 

This anecdote, along with many others, including the reality that he’s never learned another language despite years living overseas and Ivy League education, shows Obama to be a man all about himself, and more or less oblivious to the perspectives of others.

Not exactly what I want when, say, someone’s going to be dealing with the world’s preeminent advocate of a new Holocaust.

Hawk apparently tripped over a fact once, but then picked himself up as if nothing had happened!
McCain tried for seven years after returning home from that POW camp to make his marriage work. It didn’t. A lot happened to both of them the six years they were separated. Stuff happens.
Grow up, Hawk! Not every marriage ends in happily ever after. Ask John Kerry.

Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Proof:

McCain tried for seven years after returning home from that POW camp to make his marriage work.

Indeed the ideal is that one man marries and is faithful to one woman (wife) for a lifetime. McCain’s marriage and divorce therefore represents a major failure in his life; it is a common failure in our culture I am sad to say. But Proof reminded me of an important fact that, after the ravages of war, which McCain experienced in spades, his emotional damage added to a wife having to live life on her own power and by her own decisions for close to a decade, contributed to the marital breakdown. It is another part of the price we unfortunately often pay for war - broken marriages.

Remember: Osamabama or as I prefer to call him - B.O., did not face the stresses of military service, war, being a P.O.W. or the demands of self-sacrifice for a cause greater than himself. But, McCain faced these stresses in his life and after enduring torture beyond our imagination, I think we can excuse a marital breakdown.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

I would also add that McCain and his ex-wife are still friendly. McCain takes full responsibility for the marriage’s failure, although his ex-wife says she doesn’t blame him. She even has voiced her support for his Presidential campaign and has stated she will vote for him.

But Proof reminded me of an important fact that, after the ravages of war, which McCain experienced in spades, his emotional damage added to a wife having to live life on her own power and by her own decisions for close to a decade, contributed to the marital breakdown. It is another part of the price we unfortunately often pay for war - broken marriages.

Add to this his first wife’s near death accident while they were separated, there was a lot of emotional damage on both sides.

He had met Shepp, a former fashion model, before he went to Vietnam. He had adopted her two sons from an earlier marriage and together they’d had a daughter, Sidney. In 1969, while McCain was a POW, Shepp was nearly killed in a car accident. The wreck left her with permanent injuries. When he returned home in 1973, the two tried to make the marriage work, but they had little in common after six years apart. McCain has said he is responsible for the breakup. In February 1980, he filed for divorce.

The ideal is always ‘til death do you part. The reality does not always attain that lofty goal.

Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Ken: It is a shame though that the emotional toll of war can often be as high as physical injuries. After 3 tours in Vietnam my brother came home angry, emotionally unstable, even slapped his wife around a bit and they divorced a year later. As the years went by he got saved, changed inside and has been a great husband (35+ years), father and grand-father. But, the experiences in Vietnam were too fresh and took too long to heal to save his marriage. Sadly, he ex-wife and two children by that marriage have never really forgiven him, because there is no way they can really understand what happened to him.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

THat’s the first thing he’s said that i agree with. wow.

marriage is ‘quaint’. like the geneva conventions. it only works when both sides honor it and, given the number of divorces in the bible belt, we’d better give it the ax. (thanks for the precedent suckers.)

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Better give it the axe?  Well, when marriage is banned, only outlaws will have in-laws.  :^)

Leave it to Sparkie to throw out six millenia of a wonderful institution because some people screw it up.

Instead of looking at the past history of the their marriages, I would be more concerned of who will uphold the institution and sanctity of marriage.  It sounds like Obama would be a poor candidate if you believe in marriage for the majority of the populous.