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I think the voting amendment should be abolished; the voting age should be 25.
With the exception of soldiers (inc. Army, Navy, Coast Guard, Marines, and Air Force), the under-25 population is largely ignorant.

Obviously you’ve never been in the military.

Boy, I’d have voting a great deal more difficult than that if I were king.

30 is universal suffrage.

Less than that you have to pay taxes and pass a simple civics test to vote.

Flunk and you’re toast till next time.

Jefferson was a big fan of well informed electorates.

But, I think once a person reaches 30 the should be able to vote.

I’m in agreement about the military.  But, perhaps they could be educated a bit to make it work.

Stupid voters is the downfall of America.

Oh, and, you must Prove up who you are so you can vote just like a drivers License or a passport.

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Old Tigers are more dangerous when they believe this could be their last hunt.

From , “The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen”
Old tigers, sensing the end,
they’re at their most fierce. 
And they go down fighting.

25? 30!?

The country is filled with ignorant old adults. There is no age limit that will prevent them from voting.

"The Lord Of The Flies” was very metaphorical, likwid.
It’s about a society of people who don’t know any better than to destroy themselves. And they do it all without ignorant old adult supervision.

I’ve read the book ShoeMart. I don’t see as to how it applies here.

Obviously you’ve never been in the military.

I agree with Lestat.  The military grunt boys can be a bit supercillious sometimes.  A lot of them join the military instead of college since college wasn’t an option as well. That says something about atleast a good portion of them.

Your definition and reasons for voting till 25, though were half-joking, are entirely partisan.  And although I actually agree with you, it’s against our country’ss principles.

But as Gene said, and you suggest ShoeMart, I believe the subject is DEFINITELY worth meditating on.

Votes should be well-informed of politics. 

How about this for a new topic: Maybe our requisites for obtaining our voters cards should be a decently respectable test on the workings of American government politics?

And for the record, Lord of the Flies is about how the fragility of civilization, without a system of authority or government, easily falls into chaos.

I would love for our country to revert back to only landowners being able to vote.  That would keep the welfare class from gaining power and voting themselves a pay raise.

I think the voting amendment should be abolished; the voting age should be 25.
With the exception of soldiers (inc. Army, Navy, Coast Guard, Marines, and Air Force), the under-25 population is largely ignorant.

Obviously you’ve never been in the military.

(1) I do not understand why there is any question about people in the military voting. They risk their lives in defense of liberty, they should have a vote in their Commander-In-Chief.
(2) “The military grunt boys can be a bit supercillious sometimes.  A lot of them join the military instead of college since college wasn’t an option as well. That says something about at least a good portion of them.” I think this was deliberately insulting to our fighting men and women and I dare you to suggest that I know nothing of the military. A large number of them join to get money for college, many more further their education while in the military; and while they are young, surging with hormones and can act less than adult and responsible on occasion, they have won the right to full participation in our electoral process more than any other segment of our society.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

From a logical stand-point Neiman (keep in mind, i love our soldiers) risking your own life does not qualify you intellectually to vote knowledgably.

A junkie who failed school and joined the Marines because he had no better options; that marine risking his life, you are saying, dserves to vote?

According to current law, yes.  But in our thinking pool we are of the opinion that he can’t.

That doesn’t disqualify all military men of course.  My idea was that a testing be put to sift the good rocks from the bad.

I understand your priorities.  But honor does not excuse political intelligence.

If the former junkie, the high school dropout that gets his GED in the military, or the one that is just plain stupid - is risking his/her life that America can remain safe and you can vote for the candidate of your choice. I cannot ever force myself for any reason to say that he/she can die for their country but they cannot vote, and I cannot believe that any man designed test or set of qualifications can ever be acceptable that would deny even one of them that right.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

I cannot believe that any man designed test or set of qualifications can ever be acceptable that would deny even one of them that right.

As for now, I’m going to have to say my decision is pending on that too.  After all, I brought it up as a theory.  I did not support only so far as a topic to debate.

Your view is a bit romantic of the military neiman.  I know some upstanding citizens in the military that I envy for their chance at such a great honor, but I know that it’s not short of profrane scoundrels as well.

I’m not attempting to attack you spiritually, I respect you greatly as on of the better bloggers here.  But what I see as logic still stands:
risking your life for your country does not excuse them from the sins they have made or will guiltlessly make in the future.

I dropped the voting debate and put it farther, because you seem to hold the conviction that these men are excused from all their flaws from their one action of serving their country.

As a makeshift analogy: being exceptionally sacrificial for your community church does not make you any more informed on political manners.

Talented musicians are not connioissuers of wine.

Such is how I see it.

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It applies, likwid, because I was talking about the youth of voters and the downfall of society. The kids in the novel are under no influence; the opinion that we are is a yarn.