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This would appear to be entirely the problem of the Muslim community, that’s about the most polite way I can put it.

Believe me, my first reaction was quite a bit more profane...er...profound…

Oh Sister....

“It’s a given rule that you adapt to the country you make your new home. For centuries, many foreigners have relocated to new countries and adapted contently and very happy to be accepted… “
By Anna on July 1, 2008 at 09:14 am

Kosher ehhh!!!

Send them their notice soaked in pig blood.

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What’s the big deal? If the merchant refuses to display the poster because of his religious beliefs, that is his right. An individual’s right to practice his beliefs is a corner stone of our Constitution. I bet the only people stirring the pot on this one is the media and anti-immigration activists.
As for adapting or leaving: I wonder how many American visitors go to foreign countries on the notion that they do not have to know the language because everyone speaks English. Now, is that elitist or not?

Assuming England was ruled by King Move_Zig the Third, he would intone to RageBoy and his ilk:

Knaves, you have been on this Glorious Isle but a few decades. Dogs have been with us since the very beginning.  We find them to be far more loyal, useful, friendly and I dare say, less smelly than yourselves.

Either you adopt the ways of England, to include loving our dogs as we do, or get thee hence to thy fetid native lands.

...for great justice

Whats the big deal? In Scotland people don’t have that right.

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Just returned on Monday from a business trip to London.  I was stunned by the number of burka-shrouded women on London’s main streets, all with numerous small children and babies.

Most, of course, were accompanied by a scowling muslim male and all chattered away in their native tongues. No english needed or - apparently - wanted.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

Only good Muslim is the one kissing my arse.

Only good Muslim is the one kissing my arse.

Muslims stay away from unclean objects, such as your arse.

pparets

Just returned on Monday from a business trip to London.  I was stunned by the number of burka-shrouded women on London’s main streets, all with numerous small children and babies.
Most, of course, were accompanied by a scowling muslim male and all chattered away in their native tongues. No english needed or - apparently - wanted

Maybe if your business trips involved something other than kiddie porn, you would not be surprised by the various other cultures that thrive in Europe. Why should any immigrant be forced to talk to his fellows in other than their native tongues. We don’t speak the Hawaiian dialect.
I hope your presumptiousness gave your paranoia a boost.

Maybe if your business trips involved something other than kiddie porn....
watashiwa on July 2, 2008 at 05:09 pm

Unnecesary coment.

Watashiwa:  Regardless of what you may thing of my views - which you are free to respond to - your “kiddie-porn” label was an unspeakably vile insult, deeply disturbing and totally without justification.

What kind of person are you?

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

It is the kind of person who spends trips out of town perusing kiddie porn. That is why The Pervert accuses others. Projection. It is not just a room on the 3rd floor of a theater.

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WATASHIWA NEEDS TO BE BANNED FROM SAB!!

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

pparets
Your comments about the Muslim couple speaking their native tongue pissed me off. You don’t know how many times I have heard conservatives point to innocent behaviors like this to justify hatred and anti-immigrant sentiments. It seems like you fall right in line with these people, whom I deplore. 
And what was your racist comment about numerous small children and babies? Would you have said that if you had seen similar groups of English children?

It seems to me that you used your limited contact with this group of Muslims to justify your prejudice against them.
If you guys want to ban me, go ahead. Like I said, I’m just here for the fun.

WATASHIWA NEEDS TO BE BANNED FROM SAB!!

If someone needs to be banned from SAB it is Hannitzed and RBB, definately not Watashiwa…

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Goon:  when Watashiwa says that I went to London for kiddie-porn… he crosses the line.  He needs to be off SAB for a while.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

Watashiwa:  There is NO justification for that kind of disgusting comment.

Whta kind of a person are you??

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

What’s the big deal? If the merchant refuses to display the poster because of his religious beliefs, that is his right. An individual’s right to practice his beliefs is a corner stone of our Constitution.

watashiwa,

An admirable sentiment.  Presumably then, you would have no problem with a devoutly Christian pharmacist who refuses to dispense birth control or so-called “morning after” pills because his religious beliefs forbid doing so?

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

pparents, I am just saying if ROB is going to give Watashiwa: a time I have a few others that have said many more vile things than that.

Check out:
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Goon’s World

Goon:  More vile than accusing someone of going to London for that!!??  Show me!!

Watashiwa went way over the line.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

WATASHIWA NEEDS TO BE BANNED FROM SAB!!

Except for possibly rbb and definetely me, no one should be banned no matter how obnoxious, because learning requires we be open to the most extreme views, as therein I have often found some glorious grains of truth that helped me to better understand the world around me.

pparets
Your comments about the Muslim couple speaking their native tongue pissed me off. You don’t know how many times I have heard conservatives point to innocent behaviors like this to justify hatred and anti-immigrant sentiments. It seems like you fall right in line with these people, whom I deplore.

Pparets was not saying anything at all like you are trying to imply. Your upset with him and his opposing views have caused you to read into his clear words, emotions not contained therein. These were simple observations of a changing landscape in Londonistan, a preview of what is coming here very fast; a people demanding we adapt to their language, accommodate our ways to their customs and that we submit to their religious laws, versus having what used to be common among all aliens, a desire to assimilate and thereby become part of their new home.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman:  Thank you for re-explaining what I said.  However, I beg to differ with you. Accusing someone of going to a foreign city for kiddie-porn is not an “extreme view’; it is a deliberate insult of the most despicable form.

What Watashiwa did is without justification and way over the line. 

Being “pissed off” does not constitute a justifiable basis for accusing anyone of one of the most vile crimes possible.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

pparets,

You have every right to be pissed.  Watashiwa’s remark was as vile and offensive as almost anything that’s been posted here.  Almost!

But consider the source.  And then consider Rush’s dictum that we should always keep a few liberals around, if only to remind us of what we must never allow ourselves or our children to become.

Watashiwa more than likely isn’t capable of a more advanced level of thought… at least not for any sustained period of time.  You most clearly are.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

I beg to differ with you. Accusing someone of going to a foreign city for kiddie-porn is not an “extreme view’; it is a deliberate insult of the most despicable form.

Sorry, I do apologize, while speed reading the comments above, I didn’t see that accusation or at least it didn’t hold my attention long enough. It was wrong, vile and wholly unacceptable. It was most unfortunate, but you know you are blameless and innocent of such trash comments, just consider the source and hold to you usual high standards.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

pparents can’t be that over sensitive are you? I have had someone attack me and say worse than that for not agreeing with some 9/11 truther kook.

Check out:
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Goon’s World

Like what, Goon??

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

Thanks, Bat!

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

Maybe if your business trips involved something other than kiddie porn....
watashiwa on July 2, 2008 at 05:09 pm

Unnecesary coment.

You are a total hypocrite, e!

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pparent’s it is a blog post by an on line personality, a person you have never met or probably will ever meet, if you find his posts objectionable don’t read them. Conservatives are for first ammendment rights.

Finally, I had worse I no uncertain terms was told to go blank myself because I didn’t believe some nut job theory of Bush blowing up the Trade Towers. Look at some of the stuff people write about ROB or to Rob…

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pp: Welcome to the “I’ve been smeared by lying leftie hater trolls for revealing some personal information” club!

Next thing you know, w will insist “it was just a joke”.

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Goon:  Your efforts to act as an apologist for conservative freedom of speech regarding Watashiwa’s libelous slander - that I was in London for the purpose of kiddie-porn - is absurd.

Freedom of speech does not include accusing someone of that kind of behavior. 

Then, think what you just said:  If something someone writes is offensive… don’t read it. That suggestion makes no sense.  First, you couldn’t know it was offensive until you read it.  Secondly, whether one reads it or not, others will!

Furthermore, if he had told me to go f myself, i would have responded in kind.

WHEN YOU ACCUSE SOMEONE OF INDULGING IN KIDDIE-PORN, YOU HAVE CROSSED THE LINE!  SIMPLE AS THAT.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

All I am saying while I don’t agree with what Watashiwa: said, instead of making a big deal out of it move on and ignore the rest of his post if you find them objectionable. What next? are you going to charge him in Civil court?

Check out:
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Goon’s World

Finally just tell him to go eff himself.

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Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World

robert108:  Your point is well taken.  However, even though you and I have been called a variety of nasty things and have been urged to do physically impossible acts, and even though we have frequently been at each other’s throat, I don’t ever recall either of us - or anyone else - stooping to accusing another of indulging in child pornography.

There is something uniquely repulsive and slanderous about Watashiwa’s statement that I was in London for kiddie-porn.  Not because it was addressed to me, but because it is unspeakably vile, regardless of whom the target might be.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

Goon:  Actually a civil action is not without merit, since Watashiwa made his libelous accusation on a public website.

I will say no more on this issue.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

pparets:  I believe it all comes down to very basic rights offered by the Bill of Rights.....  Free Speech.

I u ban him for his comments then u might as well ban someone when they say “We the People.....”

It wasn’t a very nice thing to say.
W should apologize.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

fishing days:  Just so you know; libelous slander - a false accusation of wrongdoing - is not Ist Amendment protected speech and never has been.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

pparets:  libelous slander - a false accusation of wrongdoing… I am well aware of the two terms “libel” and “slander” and if you look at the definitions they are completely different and should not be used together as you are doing.

“Maybe” was the key word in his reply, and I think you are applying it personally and judgmental.  I see that all writings on here are anonymous, therefore neither “libel” or “slander” can apply. 

Your avatar is commendable and appreciative as a fellow (DEMOCRATIC)veteran.

As pparets just pointed out, there is no absolute freedom, of speech or of any other variety.  Slander, libel, conspiracy, and inciting to violence and treason are NOT protected.  Nor, as those on the Left are so eager to overlook, is there any freedom without a concomitant responsibility for the consequences.

Watashiwa’s pitiful attempt at being glib marks him as nothing but a vile little ass, hardly worthy of the attentions of any of the adults here.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Slander, libel, conspiracy, and inciting to violence and treason are NOT protected.

While the idea the speech is not an absolute right, these are very poor examples.  Freedom of speech only protects you from the government.  Slander is almost never a government issue.  Conspiracy generally cannot be just speech, it should have an overt act.  Inciting violence can be speech and is an example.  I think it would be almost impossible to convict somebody for treason based on just speech.

There are levels of speech.  Political speech is the most inviolate.  You can always criticize the government.  That is why treason cannot be just speech.  It must include something else, such as giving away secrets.  A lower level of speech is commercial speech.  You cannot advertise something for what it is not.  That is not protected.

You cannot advertise something for what it is not.

Perhaps someone should advise the young Senator Obama?!

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Maybe if your business trips involved something other than kiddie porn....
watashiwa on July 2, 2008 at 05:09 pm
Unnecesary coment.

You are a total hypocrite, e!
robert108 on July 3, 2008 at 05:31 pm

Why? Because I was the first one to tell watashiwa, that his comment was Unnecesary?
What is wrong with you uncle Robert?

Perhaps someone should advise the young Senator Obama?!

Or McCain or Bush or any other politician.

There is something uniquely repulsive and slanderous about Watashiwa’s statement that I was in London for kiddie-porn. Not because it was addressed to me, but because it is unspeakably vile, regardless of whom the target might be.

It’s definitely a matter of degree; I have been both accused of, and pictured as, being a cop clubbing someone, and as a dope dealer selling drugs.  None of it true, and I told the attacker a liar(which was true).  Beyond that, there’s not much more you can do, except to be very careful about revealing any bits of personal information.  The lying leftie trolls will use any pretext to launch personal attack, as that is all they have.  They are to be pitied, and avoided.  They are sick hypocrites.
Take comfort in the reality that those of us who aren’t lying scum know better than to believe their lies.

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Maybe if your business trips involved something other than kiddie porn, you would not be surprised by the various other cultures that thrive in Europe.

Watishwa, I think you can voice your frustration with pparets without needing to resort to such unfounded, salacious libel.

It really tells us more about you than him.  And the comments above from “fishing days” are inaccurate.  Posting under an assumed name on a web forum does not protect anyone from libel (slander is the spoken version).  Also, nobody here is anonymous.  At the very least, I have everyone’s IP addresses and should someone say something here that’s illegal, or should someone like pparets wish to pursue action against scurrilous accusations from people like Watishwa, I would happily disclose that information.

So I’d watch it, Watishwa.  The consequences for the kind of nonsense you’ve engaged in on this thread can reach far beyond merely being banished.  Which is something I won’t hesitate to do if you continue.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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hypocrite

Main Entry:
hyp·o·crite Listen to the pronunciation of hypocrite
Pronunciation:
\ˈhi-pə-ˌkrit\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English ypocrite, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin hypocrita, from Greek hypokritēs actor, hypocrite, from hypokrinesthai
Date:
13th century

1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

Double standard.

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Thanks for the warning, Rob. I promise to behave myself in the future if people like Graves, 2hotel9, robert108 and McCracken quit hurling indignant insults at me. Pparets, I offer no apologies. I am really tired of seeing people with these attitudes use them to justify their xenophobic fears. Now, can we get on with our lives?

w: If you have a shred of integrity, you will apologize profusely for your vicious lie about pp, and solemnly promise never to do it again.  Until then, you are just another vicious, lying leftie, and should be treated as such.  All you have ever gotten from me is refutation of your bullshit. Sorry you can’t handle it.

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Just as soon as you stop acting the ass, The Pervert.

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bob:

If you have a shred of integrity you’ll accept my challenge. Until then you are just a lying coward and will be treated as such.

jackoff, realitydenyingboob never actually responds directly. You are wasting time waiting for that to happen.

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