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Friday, March 16, 2007

Missing Link?

By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY

War On Terror: Al-Qaida mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has confessed to being the mastermind for a lot of terrorist crimes. Old news? Hardly. His confession appears to link al-Qaida to Saddam Hussein’s Iraq.

War critics argue that Saddam Hussein had little to do with terrorism, and nothing to do with al-Qaida. Since there was no Iraq-al-Qaida link, they say, the U.S. should never have invaded to get rid of Hussein, no matter how evil he was. But something interesting has come out of the interrogations of the lead al-Qaida suspects at Guantanamo.

In particular, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed confirmed what was suspected all along: He was the driving force and chief planner behind 15 years of al-Qaida terrorism — nearly 30 attacks and plots in all. That includes 9/11, the murder of journalist Daniel Pearl and, much earlier, the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center.

If so, it further cements the evidence that Iraq was, at minimum, a willing partner of al-Qaida’s in the decadelong burst of terrorism that culminated in 9/11. Indeed, Mohammed’s Gitmo confession neatly ties the ‘93 WTC bombing and 9/11 to Iraq and al-Qaida. After all, Iraq had the means — oil money — and the motive — revenge for Hussein’s humiliation in the 1991 Gulf War.

Of particular interest is the revelation about Mohammed’s involvement in the ‘93 bombing. It shows a linkage not only between the ‘93 WTC attack and 9/11, but also between Iraq and al-Qaida.

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It’s pretty clear that al-Qaida and Iraq, far from being enemies, were tactical allies against the U.S. As such, removing Hussein wasn’t a distraction from our war on terror; it was vital to it.

Read the whole thing.

Information like this is the antidote to the MSM’s ongoing campaign of lies, half-truths and fabrications about the war in Iraq, the overall war on terror, and terrorists in general.  We have to kill them before they kill us.

Comments

so where is the evidence of the link? i don’t see any.


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Sparkie Arbuckle on March 16, 2007 at 09:51 am

It’s called testimony.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on March 16, 2007 at 10:19 am

His confession appears to link al-Qaida to Saddam Hussein’s Iraq.

Looks promising!

Iraq was, at minimum, a willing partner of al-Qaida’s in the decadelong burst of terrorism that culminated in 9/11. Indeed, Mohammed’s Gitmo confession neatly ties the ‘93 WTC bombing and 9/11 to Iraq and al-Qaida. After all, Iraq had the means — oil money — and the motive — revenge for Hussein’s humiliation in the 1991 Gulf War.

That’s it?


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MikeAdamson on March 16, 2007 at 02:00 pm

Other than that “kill all the infidels” thing they all have in common?


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on March 16, 2007 at 02:30 pm

That’s it?

Completely unwilling to concede that removing Saddam was good? 

Couple this with the documents found in Saddam’s palaces… is it enough then?  Add in his harbor of Zawaheri, enough yet?  He paid terrorist.  still not enough?  Bribed UN leaders… Shot at our planes… tortured (really tortured… not stripped naked with bags over their heads)… raped, pillaged, plundered, murdered… will any of it ever be enough?

Seth Yantiss on March 16, 2007 at 02:39 pm

Completely unwilling to concede that removing Saddam was good?

A different issue Seth. I’m talking about the evidence that is claimed to prove that Saddam and Al Qaeda were working together...whatever the IBD has slapped together isn’t it.


"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced if the nation doesn’t want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
Cicero, 55 BC

MikeAdamson on March 16, 2007 at 03:37 pm

I’m talking about the evidence that is claimed to prove that Saddam and Al Qaeda were working together…

Couple this with the documents found in Saddam’s palaces…

2+2=4


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on March 17, 2007 at 12:58 am
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You people live on another planet.Saddam was a seularist who imprisoned very relogious people, because he thought they were a threat to him.One of the ways he recognised them physically was from the grey mark on their forheads from too much praying.

Like Hitler that so many of you Christian appologists. funny how you are adamant to frame Saddam to Al qaida who did not stand each other, yet to remove hitler from Chritianity ,even though he quoted Srgregation from the So called Bible (genesis 9 versa 27 ).Hitler’s war was not only about Race cause many of the European Jews were Whites who converted to Jewdaism , he like Islamic terrorists uses their mother religion to Condon what they are doing.

lisa on March 17, 2007 at 05:40 am

Saddam gave financial,training,material, and moral support to ALL international terror groups, regardless of their religious affiliations. OBL spent two seperate periods of time in Iraq, and Salman Pak was one of a dozen training sites specific to training non-Iraqi nationals in terrorism tactics and operations.

goofy be’atch, your own government released 9 breifs detailing Saddam’s ongoing involvement with and support of terrorist groups. All prior to 1997. Do you remember what terrorist group did what to Brits in fall, 1997?

France,Russia, and Germany all said that Saddam’s regime was a major state sponsor of international terrorism throughout the late ‘80s and the ‘90s. Guess they were all lying too, eh, goofy be’atch?


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on March 17, 2007 at 05:54 am

One of the ways he recognised them physically was from the grey mark on their forheads from too much praying.

Sounds like some kind of misconception to me. Does praying turn your forehead grey?

Hitler was insane. He sought to bring about Armageddon, so that the chosen (Aryans) could inherit the Earth. He used teachings from many different schools to justify his position. That is what people in hyper-manic mental states do. He was an emotive speaker and the cultural mood of the time (socialist) led to his popular support. If only we’d had Lithium back then.


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on March 17, 2007 at 05:55 am

Mike A, 2H9,

Don’t see what you two are arguing over.  Lisa has already explained that terrorism, murder, torture and imprisonment are all perfectly acceptable as long as the “victims” of these actions are religious people… especially those who believe in the “So-called Bible.”

(Can’t wait til the subject of tax and economic policy comes up.)


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on March 17, 2007 at 06:07 am

Does praying turn your forehead grey?

Is it a different colour depending on your religion?
What colour does buddhist meditation make your forehead? Or Yogic Flying?
is that why Hindus wear the kum-kum or tilak on their foreheads?


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on March 17, 2007 at 06:07 am

Oh, I ain’t a arguing. I am still in derision heaping mode.


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2Hotel9 on March 17, 2007 at 06:30 am
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Seeing Saddam does not hide his feelings towards America, then how come NON of the 9 11 were Iraqis???? not even their leader was iraqi but belongrd to the family of Bush’s best freinds and business partners the Bin Ladens.why not attack Saudi????.

Where do you think Osama is STILL getting his money Trasfers from? His Billions are not stacked in a mud made Bank some where on TORA BORA.To think thatyour Goverment would not sacrifice a couple of thousands of thier people to achive their goal, when it was done before?!

1-1985 America placed a Bomb throuh the CIA and Killed 82 people and injured 182 just to kill a mullah byt missed out.

2-OPERATION NORTHWOOD in which all top Millitary men in the US sighned off on a proposal to STAGE FAKE TERROR ATTACKS as PRETEX for a war with Cuba. At that time there was an executive who was UNWILLING to go that far to achive its ends.
Notice the only way any of us citizens of the world know evil storeis like this , is when one/ group of men have consciuos . then the jewish run government (AIPAC) make him to be mental or frame him with some story.

you want to know why saddam was first( before bin laden ) on the list?, because he was planning to start selling his petrol in EUROS instead of DOLLARS. That made the WHITE HOUSE very worreid about their ecconomy , WHY ? because then every OIL Producing country will follow the Euros.Then Americans will kick Bush’s ASS out of the White house.
Now iran is planning to do the SAME.So the only way to stop this from happening is what the terrorist stae of israel and the jewish American supporters of Zionism call and PRACTICE a famous MOSSAD Idiology and historical judaism law is =

“BY WAY OF DECEPTION THOU SHALL DO WAR “.

lisa on March 17, 2007 at 06:48 am
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Hotel you just twist things round . No surprise the Europeans call you Dum and don’t know nothing out side of your zone.
What you call terrorist others call freedom fighters , like the wars of liberation was fought using terrorists methods.

So Saddam financed Shia Hizbollah? and Christian ETA, IRA,Hindu TAMIL TIGERS, Christian Souyh american rebels, Christian Mogabi, Communist China against Buddists,Christian KKK, Christian identity ,Apartheid,Timothy macvay, the regular school shootings in the states,...etc. OH FORGOT SEEING you mention prior 1997 then we should as bush said “you are either with us or against us” well lets see on 1981 RUMSFEILD went to greet besst freind Saddam while the world knew he was Gassing and Killing his own people,but america did not care it’s only agenda was iran.

lisa on March 17, 2007 at 07:12 am
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man of fire you are so ignorrant and uncultured you need to travel out side of your country and explore the world,STILL NO EXCUSE AS YOU HAVE THE NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC TV TO LEARN.

YES ANY RELIGION WHO PRAYS KNEELING DOW WITH FOREHEAD ON THE FLOOR CONTINUASLY will GET THAT GREY MARK ,SADDAM DID NOT HAVE IT .THE WHOLE MUSLIM WORLD KNOWS THAT BUT IGNORENT PEOPLE LIKE YOU DO NOT.i BET YOU bUSH KNOWS IT AND THE CIA.

lisa on March 17, 2007 at 07:20 am

And the moronic leftarded stupidity just comes faster&faster. You truly are a goofy be’atch!


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on March 17, 2007 at 07:57 am

I’m not going to respond to too much of lisa’s drivel because arguing with the insane is starting to lose its appeal, but I do have to question this:

You people live on another planet.Saddam was a seularist who imprisoned very relogious people...

Only in lisa’s planet can a guy write the entire Koran using his own blood and still be considered secularist. That’s what Saddam did while he was imprisoned.

600 pages of a religious book written with blood and still considered secularist? Amazing, isn’t it?

likwidshoe on March 17, 2007 at 08:07 am

It’s called testimony.

Pentagon News Network.
No reporters were
at Khalid’s hearing/confession.

WOOF on March 17, 2007 at 08:11 am

Oh, come on, Lik! Grab your derision heaping shovel and join the fun! And the Qu’ran written in blood was a frolic from the ‘90s, though while in lockdown he did write several things. Not sure if they were in blood, though.


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2Hotel9 on March 17, 2007 at 08:14 am

Grab your derision heaping shovel and join the fun!

Ooh! Ooh! Can I play, too? It appears to be a target rich environment.


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Pilgrim on March 17, 2007 at 08:20 am
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C’mon now, guys! The Name of the Post is : Missing Link.
lisa’s just providing her bono fides…



For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

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Proof on March 17, 2007 at 08:26 am

man of fire you are so ignorrant and uncultured you need to travel out side of your country and explore the world,STILL NO EXCUSE AS YOU HAVE THE NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC TV TO LEARN.

YES ANY RELIGION WHO PRAYS KNEELING DOW WITH FOREHEAD ON THE FLOOR CONTINUASLY will GET THAT GREY MARK ,SADDAM DID NOT HAVE IT .THE WHOLE MUSLIM WORLD KNOWS THAT BUT IGNORENT PEOPLE LIKE YOU DO NOT.i BET YOU bUSH KNOWS IT AND THE CIA.

I certainly hope you are not a Briton, Lisa, because your grasp of the English language leaves a lot to be desired. 

Is that why Muslims wear turbans or headscarves, to cover up the grey patch?

I can’t believe I’m sitting here responding to this drivel.


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on March 17, 2007 at 08:51 am

No reporters were
at Khalid’s hearing/confession.

You mean “no lying propagandists from the MSM” were there?  I take that to mean his testimony is as we are told.  In other words, it’s accurate.  The definition of “testimony” doesn’t require lying propagandists from the MSM.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on March 17, 2007 at 09:20 am

You people live on another planet.Saddam was a seularist who imprisoned very relogious people…

The truth: Saddam imprisoned, tortured, raped and dismembered people of the Shia sect of Islam, along with Kurdish people.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on March 17, 2007 at 09:23 am

...but america did not care it’s only agenda was iran.--

Actually, it was the Soviet Union, which was using Iran as a pawn.  You do remember that “Cold War” thing, don’t you?


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on March 17, 2007 at 09:27 am

Pentagon News Network.
No reporters were
at Khalid’s hearing/confession.

Good thing to note WOOF… When the video tape comes out (and there had to have been a tape), I’ll be sure to STILL believe that Saddam needed to be dealt with and STILL not care if there were links between Iraq and Al Qaeda… but I’ll have seen the tape.

Seth Yantiss on March 17, 2007 at 09:33 am

You people live on another planet.Saddam was a seularist who imprisoned very relogious people, because he thought they were a threat to him.One of the ways he recognised them physically was from the grey mark on their forheads from too much praying.

So… On your Planet, it’s okay to find people with gray ‘marks’ on their forehead and imprison them. 

Why is that okay?  What if Saddam decided that ALL women were a threat to him?  Would you gladdly take your own life to spare Saddam the trouble of finding you?

Just askin…

Seth Yantiss on March 17, 2007 at 09:46 am

Come on, Limey, grab that derision heaping shovel and sling it on! Its fun, and educational too!

Seriously though, this “information” that is presented as so true and damning by such as goofy be’atch is widespread and accepted as fact. The comment you posted concerning America selling Saddam bio and chem weapons and technology is another line of this. And please do not take offense to my wording in response to that comment! I am not calling you a liar, I am naming those specifics as lies.


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2Hotel9 on March 17, 2007 at 01:17 pm

None taken. Topical discussions encourage one to conduct research. You are correct. ‘Twas the French, Germans and Russians, I think we shipped dual use materials too.


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on March 17, 2007 at 02:06 pm
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