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Monday, May 05, 2008

Mildred Loving Has Died

She threw a spanner into the gears of legalized

intolerance.

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They had married in Washington in 1958, when she was 18. Returning to their Virginia hometown, they were arrested within weeks and convicted on charges of “cohabiting as man and wife, against the peace and dignity of the Commonwealth,” according to their indictments. The couple avoided a year in jail by agreeing to a sentence mandating that they immediately leave Virginia. They moved to Washington and launched a legal challenge a few years later.
Struck down Laws Forbidding Interracial Marriage

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What a beautiful woman.
May a God rest her soul.


“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

realitybasedbob on May 5, 2008 at 04:20 pm

Yes, God bless her soul.
No one has the right to tell us who we can and cannot marry.. and especially not the gov’t


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Anna on May 5, 2008 at 07:13 pm

The Virginia Racial Identities Protection Act, which the Supreme Court struck down in Loving v. Virginia, was passed by a Democrat majority in the state legislature and signed into law by a Democrat Governor (Ethbert Lee Trinkle!) in 1924… the same year that 2-time Democrat nominee for President, William Jennings Bryant defended the Ku Klux Klan in his speech to the Democrats’ national convention in New York… a convention also referred to as the ”Klanbake” because of the participation of a large number of KKK delegates.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on May 5, 2008 at 10:46 pm

Bat: Thanks for reminding us of the truth that the Dem Party is the Party of racism.  If Michelle Obama and Wright want to justify their hatred of “white people” by citing slavery from 150 years ago, it is certainly permissible to excoriate the Dem Party for its racism of just a generation ago.


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robert108 on May 6, 2008 at 08:20 am
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the Dem Party is the Party of racism.

Also the party of Margaret Sanger’s Planned Parenthood.
Hmmm. Wonder if the “hood” is symbolic?



For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

Proof on May 6, 2008 at 08:48 am

Wonder if the “hood” is symbolic?

I think it’s a reference to female circumcision.


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robert108 on May 6, 2008 at 09:08 am

She threw a spanner into the gears of legalized
intolerance.

In the State of Virginia, but not in the State of Washington.


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robert108 on May 6, 2008 at 09:12 am

Is this the Margaret Sanger of Planned Parenthood you were referring to,

We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal.  We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro
population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.
- Margaret Sanger’s December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble.

Or was it, perhaps this one,

Our failure to segregate morons who are increasing and multiplying… demonstrates our foolhardy and extravagant sentimentalism ... [Philanthropists] encourage the healthier and more normal sections of the world to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant ... We are paying for, and even submitting to, the dictates of an ever-increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all.

Or this one,

The marriage bed is the most degenerative influence in the social order.... The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.


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Bat One on May 6, 2008 at 09:56 am
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I thought the “hood” might be symbolic of the Klan, since Ms. Sanger had an affinity to abort babies of color.



For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

Proof on May 6, 2008 at 10:06 am

...Ms. Sanger had an affinity to abort babies of color.

She was just doing her duty as a good Eugenicist.


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robert108 on May 6, 2008 at 10:10 am

Correct me, please, if I am wrong, but this is the very same Planned Parenthood which “advises” Ted Kennedy and other strident liberals on which judicial nominees are acceptable (pro abortion) and which are to be blocked from confirmation.  Right?


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on May 6, 2008 at 11:12 am
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The Lovings were represented by the ACLU. 

If this happened today Bat1 and Robert would feel compelled to yell out States Rights and support Virginia.

Lestat on May 6, 2008 at 07:08 pm

If this happened today Bat1 and Robert would feel compelled to yell out States Rights and support Virginia.

Wrong again, leftie!  Actually, it was Dems who wrote the laws under which they were prosecuted, in line with the leftie predeliction for eugenics.
Dems are the Party of racism.


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robert108 on May 6, 2008 at 08:05 pm

If this happened today Bat1 and Robert would feel compelled to yell out States Rights and support Virginia.

Lestat,

It is never advisable to get into a fight with someone about whom you are ignorant.  Those who do so tend to lose… a lot.

Glib though your comment might seem, the fact is government, at any level, does not have rights.  Only people have rights.  It’s a point I have made here any number of times.  Words have meanings.  It’s why we have language in the first place.

As to your specific comment, this situation would not happen today… thanks to the efforts of Republicans who overcame Democrat objections in passing Civil Rights legislation in 1960, 1964, and 1968, a Republican former prosecutor, governor and Chief Justice of the Supreme Court who wrote the Loving v. Virginia opinion, who was himself appointed by a Republican president.  The statutes (2) overturned in that decision were passed by Virginia’s Democrat-controlled state legislature and signed into law by that state’s Democrat governor in 1924, all as noted above.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on May 6, 2008 at 08:23 pm

WooHooo Bat hearts Earl Warren,

a Republican former prosecutor, governor and Chief Justice of the Supreme Court who wrote the Loving v. Virginia opinion

WOOF on May 6, 2008 at 08:33 pm

WOOF,

Oh, come now!  I know you’re old enough to remember Eisenhower’s commiseration that appointing Earl Warren was the single biggest mistake of his presidency.  But only an intellectually constipated moron would conclude from that assessment that every opinion written by Warren was trash and every decision of the Warren Court was erroneous… all as you’ve implied.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on May 6, 2008 at 08:46 pm
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Bat1 you are full of shit.  You claim him now, but will throw Warren under the bus in any other circumstance. 

I think Warren was a great Chief Justice.  I am glad you agree with me.

Lestat on May 6, 2008 at 09:21 pm

Lestat,

Either your eyesight or your reading comprehension is deteriorating… right, as they say, before your eyes!

If you have some proof to offer that what I’ve said about Warren is erroneous, by all means post it.

I will agree with Warren’s opinions when I think his opinions were correct… just as I would with your opinions if and when you were ever to offer a correct one.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on May 6, 2008 at 09:42 pm

I remember seeing Joe Dimaggio and Marylin Monroe.

Eisenhower I might have seen on someones 10 inch B&W Emerson.

WOOF on May 6, 2008 at 10:07 pm
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Bat1, you are so full of shit.  You were using Earl Warren as an example of a great republican.  A bit disingenous.

Lestat on May 6, 2008 at 10:11 pm
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Words have meanings.  It’s why we have language in the first place.

Yes.  I agree Bat.  Don’t you think Robs choice of words were poor when he said “I am beginning to think Obama might loose if he were nominated as the Dems candidate”?

Surely it makes no sense to say that if always thought Obama would loose the general election as far back as January.  Don’t you agree? 

Since you have such an appreciation for words and their meanings, it seems logical that you would agree.  Instead of attacking me for pointing out that words have meanings.

Hannitized on May 6, 2008 at 10:29 pm

Bat1, you are so full of shit.

Come on, Lestat!  The same childish epithet in two successive comments?  You really are that intellectually constipated, aren’t you?

Look, I’ve been far more imaginatively insulted by far more intelligent and verbally adroit leftists than anything you could aspire to. (in fact, one of your betters just showed up here!) Please don’t bother again.  I have a low tolerance for tedium.

As for this,

You were using Earl Warren as an example of a great republican.

No, I was not.  And you are singularly unqualified to restate my intentions.  The Loving decision was clearly the correct one, but that fact is hardly a ringing endorsement of the rest of the Warren Court’s decisions nor of his standing as a Republican… much as you might like to think otherwise.  The historical facts about Civil Rights and Republicans are what they are… an “inconvenient truth” those of you on the Left are just going to have to learn to accept.

Look, I’m truly sorry this “discussion” isn’t working out real well.  But we are obviously operating on two different levels here, and I’m too weary to clamber down all those flights of rhetorical stairs merely to wade through your simple-minded effluence.  There’s nothing in it for me.

G’nite!


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on May 6, 2008 at 10:44 pm
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Bat1, you tried to use Loving v. Virginia to prove that Republicans are good and Democrats are evil.  You used Earl Warren as an example.  It is just inconvenient for you that Earl Warren turned out to be liberal and it was the ACLU that took the Loving case.  Please give me one Civil Rights court case that was championed by conservatives.  Brown was by the NAACP, Loving was by the ACLU.  Your claim that conservatives champion civil rights causes just doesn’t hold water.

Lestat on May 6, 2008 at 10:59 pm

H: I usually don’t get involved in your silliness, but if you want to expound about “words have meanings”, it behooves you to spell those words correctly, else you just make yourself look even more foolish.
Let me ‘splain it to you:

“loose” is the opposite of “tight”.

“lose” is the opposite of “win”.

The word you used incorrectly doesn’t have the meaning you apparently think it does, which completely destroys any credibility you might have left.


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robert108 on May 6, 2008 at 11:02 pm

Lestat: A few inconvenient truths for you:

The Virginia statutes under which the Lovings were prosecuted were created by Dems, following the traditional racist and eugenic policies of the Dem Party.
All the Civil Rights legislation was passed with the necessary assistance of the Republican Party(the Party that freed the slaves and abolished slavery), because the Dem Party didn’t have a majority sufficient to pass that legislation.  It’s a matter of history; you can look it up.
The Dem Party is still the Party of racism, thanks to Sharpton, Jackson, Wright and Obama.
Where would you lefties be if you didn’t constantly play the race card?


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robert108 on May 6, 2008 at 11:07 pm
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Robert,

I typically don’t enjoy responding to your denials of reality.  But since you seem to have a profound misunderstanding of history and the significance in it, I feel forced to have to respond to your silliness.

The Virginia statutes under which the Lovings were prosecuted were created by Dems, following the traditional racist and eugenic policies of the Dem Party.

In the past, Democrats represented the conservative white male agenda.  After those members moved over to the Republican party, they subsequently switched platforms. 

Today, guess which party represents the ambitions of the conservative white male?

Hannitized on May 6, 2008 at 11:19 pm

In the past, Democrats represented the conservative white male agenda.

Wrong again.  The Dem Party, after the Civil War, created the KKK as a terrorist organization to drive Republicans(the Party that freed the slaves) out of the South, and they succeeded.  You misuse the term “conservative"(since you really don’t know what it means).  You have “conservative Democrat” confused with “conservative”.  You are simply parroting the latest propaganda ploy of the left to deny the historical racism of the Dem Party, with its adherence to eugenics.


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robert108 on May 7, 2008 at 12:20 am

In the past, Democrats represented the conservative white male agenda.  After those members moved over to the Republican party, they subsequently switched platforms.

I’ve shot this down before, but it’s worth doing again.

The Dixiecrat party was an offshoot of the Democratic Party because they felt the Democrats didn’t go far enough, and were too moderate (much like the Kos Wing of the party today). So, on the face of it, the proposition that they would reject their party that was too moderate for their tastes, and go even further to the opposite extreme is nonsensical.

While the argument goes that Strom Thurmond proves the Dixiecrats changed sides, nothing could be further from the truth. Once they failed miserably at winning seats as a third party...they folded back into the Democrat party where they held prominent positions for decades, some up until the 80s.

Furthermore, many Dixiecrats were not racists. From the initial Radical Reconstruction of the South to the New Deal, they saw bigger government as a vehicle to screw the South (which it had been consistantly). One of the planks of the New Deal was the imposition of the minimum wage with was not only anti-black, but anti-South. With Truman promising to expand the New Deal, many southerners panicked.

Many of the Dixiecrats were unrepentant racists. But many more were just against the idea of the God state. Omnipotent federal government scared them. It’s unfortunate they took up cause with avowed racists. And by trying to toss that load on the GOP, the Dems try to blame right wingers for the racism of teh Dixiecrats...when we just accept the limited government aspect.


Obama/Biden is not change. It’s more of the same.

Kenny on May 7, 2008 at 01:24 am

Moderates Kenny?

35 southern Democrats walked out in protest. They formed the States’ Rights Democratic Party, which became popularly known as the Dixiecrats. Their campaign slogan was “Segregation Forever

Thurmond said, “All the laws of Washington and all the bayonets of the army cannot force… the southern people to break down segregation and admit the Negro race into our theaters, into our swimming pools, into our homes and into our churches.”

WOOF on May 7, 2008 at 11:24 am
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