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Move_Zig: 

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... and so is your absurd post, suggesting that this would be McCain’s America.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

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I know, I know.... it’s embarrassing when McCain’s history comes out and you’re trying to let people forget what a traitorous weasel he is.

Tsk. Tsk.

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Move_Zig: Calling McCain a “traitorous weasel” is beyond the pale (Outside the limits of what is considered decent and acceptable).

I dislike much about McCain and his so-called Maverick record, I could complain about his lack of support for Bush at times; but nothing in this man’s record could ever support, not in the smallest way the name TRAITIOR. Shame on you for applying that treacherous word to a man that suffered unimaginable, almost unendurable torture in defense of liberty.

Dispicable of you to apply that damnable word to McCain!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman, this is where we disagree.

Benedict Arnold was once also a decorated hero and yet he turned against his own country. 

I see McCain in much the same light.  He has turned against his party and his own country.  By championing such a massive influx of dangerous foreign nationals that present a clear and present danger (they kill 25 Americans a day) even without the vote, I would say that pretty much is tantamount to handing the country over to millions of foreign nationals.

The only difference is that the popular media love this sort of stuff and that if it had been Germans in 1939, they would have depicted it for what it is.

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Move_Zig can’t help himself. He lets his blind fury get in the way of his otherwise better judgement when it comes to Senator McCain. 

The Benedict Arnold analogy is another example of hate-spin.

Traitor, indeed!

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

Move_Zig: It is the word “traitor” that I object to being applied to McCain. It implies cowwardly acts against the United States in a time of war. To say that McCain has acted against the best interests of his party and his nation through his legislative and public policy decisions is acceptable, as I share that view. What he is not is a Traitor to his country!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Gents,

I’ve posted objective facts and supporting links.  Here and in numerous previous posts.  If calling a spade a spade gets your panties in a wad, well tough.

Deal with it. 

That doesn’t change the facts and hissing, spitting and stamping your little footsies doesn’t change it one iota.

Giving your country away to another country is about as close to a working definition of treason as I can find.  It’s made all the worse when there is no shooting war.  Mexico wouldn’t stand a chance against us in open conflict, but they won’t have to with traitors like McCain to do it for them.

Did he not take an oath to uphold and support the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic? Does that not include to defend the borders against invasion, be it open or by widespread criminal influx? Does it not include upholding and supporting the laws made under the Constitution?

Whose side is he on?  Surely not the American side/ Not when he opens the back gate to the fortress and prosecutes the guards for doing what they should (in all fairness, that is Bush’s wrongdoing) but you can bet your bottom peso that McCain will carry out by extension the same Merger-with-Mexico policies that Bush has started in operation.

So how about addressing the facts brought out in those links and quite responding like leftist hacks.

Surely as so-called conservatives, you can do better.

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Wonderful polemics… but traitor ...?  Come on.

Better go back and look At Presidents Ford, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II on the same subject. Whole lotta traitorin’ goin’ on.

You have a grudge-match with McCain. You know it. I know it. We all know it.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

I’m with Zig on this one. How much can McCain milk the fact he served his country? You guys make it sound like he was willingly shot down in order to prove his point or something. His actions while a prisoner of war were honorable, but really what have they to do with the immigration issue? Every legitimate issue conservatives have with the man is answered with indignant cries of “The man served his country! How can you say that of him?” If you can’t marshall a better defense of him in here amongst your fellow conservatives, what is going to happen when the press no longer has the Hillary/Obama thing to divert their gaze and they turn on him?

You have a grudge-match with McCain. You know it. I know it. We all know it.

Damn right we do. His securing the nomination doesn’t mean a thinking, loyal American has to simply shut up and go along. Our choices this time around are even worse than the last two. The Republican party has failed the Conservative movement and by extension, America, by nominating the guy who deserves it. Dole redeaux.

Good Ol Boy:  Duh!  The Republican Party didn’t nominate anyone. The American people did, with their votes.

Last time I looked, John McCain was talking the issues , not his war record, while Obama was denying knowing anything about Rev. Wright and Hillary was dodgning bullets in the Balkans.

...and you would prefer one of them as President over John McCain?

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

Heh heh (shaking head)

We’ve gone over this a dozen times.  And you have never answered the question as to how Conservatives are to hold McCain’s feet to the fire and govern as a Conservative once he gets in.

I’ve got the answer for you, so don’t bother.

It ain’t gonna happen.

If Conservative voters of Arizona can’t keep him on the Right side of the Aisle, you think once he is in office, by dint of support by cross-over Libs and so -called moderate Republicans that he will give a rat’s ass as to anything enraged Conservatives will have to say?

This guy is ancient.  His dad and granddad were dead at his present age.  He’s not scared of getting voted out of office.  This is his last hurrah and no one is so free as the man who knows he is about to die and only has so much time to accomplish his mission.  He’ll stick his finger in Conservative America’s eye—a finger prolly spiced up with some buttwax for good measure.

And your point about the American people nominating him is disingenuous.  The Conservative vote was split between Romney and the Huckster.  McCain got a certain percentage of veterans who are unfamiliar with how contemptibly he has treated the MIA families and his non-stop love-fest with his former captors.  The only thing missing is a queen of diamonds.  Liberals voted him in and chances are that liberals will vote for him in the general election as well.  Libs love the guy! What does that say about his Conservative-ness?

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McCain’s constituency is not Conservative America.  Anyone who has followed his past knows that he is not the Jack Amstrong the All-American Boy you would make us believe he is.

He isn’t.

Anybody paying attention to John McCain’s gleeful policy heresies of the past seven years knows that policy and tone are, for him, two sides of the same coin. And it isn’t just on campaign finance reform and immigration amnesty that the “Arizona maverick” has burned down the reservation. There’s his classist opposition to the Bush tax cuts, his championing of environmental extremism while still Chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, his “anti-torture” crusade that seeks to accord full constitutional rights to captured enemy combatants and kneecap efforts to gather critical intelligence needed to prevent terrorist attacks. And dare any of us forget arguably McCain’s biggest back-stab of all, the “Gang of 14″ deal that nullified any attempt to terminate Senate Democrats’ extra-constitutional filibusters of appellate court nominations. In that one piece of spiteful backroom manuevering John McCain signed the death warrant for his party’s Senate majority and displayed his faithlessness to the Constitution he wants to be sworn in to uphold.

And now that he needs the votes of that self-same Republican base that he has scorned for all these years, “Mr. Straight Talk” is pandering to them with all his weaselly might.

I’ve posted links to sites documenting his past.  I hear vituperation as a response, not counter-proof.  That’s a Leftist method of argumentation and beneath a Conservative.  Need I ask the question that follows?

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