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Scooter Libby was the fall-guy for a whole host of Washington insiders and media celebrities.  Bush was right to pardon his prison term.

Libby is still liable for a substantial financial penalty and loss of his right to practice law which Bush did not pardon.

Sandy Berger did much worse and paid a small fine.

This post is a non-story.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“Glory is not a conceit. It is not a decoration for valor. Glory belongs to the act of being constant to something greater than yourself, to a cause, to your principles, to the people on whom you rely, and who rely on you in return.”
Senator John McCain, Faith of Our fathers

I am beginning to think that RBB is nothing more than a GOP hater.

Check out:
Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World

goon:  And what was your first clue...?

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“Glory is not a conceit. It is not a decoration for valor. Glory belongs to the act of being constant to something greater than yourself, to a cause, to your principles, to the people on whom you rely, and who rely on you in return.”
Senator John McCain, Faith of Our fathers

I haven’t seen anything that is positive yet

Check out:
Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World

Silly boys, that is just not true.
I like me some Jeff Flake, Hagle, Snow, Roscoe Bartlett, Eisenhower wasn’t all bad. There are others but I will have to look

It’s the new gops I find so, so…un American. Ya know the big spenders. The borrow and spend boys. The rubberstamp crowd. The ball less bunch that kowtows to bushco. The corrupt ones who lunched with Jack. The Dukester crowd. The pedophiles and panderers who have found their way into the core of the new gop. The K Street klatch. The Rove-etteers. The Lurita Doan’s the Tim Griffin’s, the Sara Taylor’s the Brownies, Rummies, Alfredo’s, Feiths, Wolfowitz’s the Mustache of Love Bolton’s…it’s the cronies, stupid.

’06 was a good year.

I’m hoping ’08 will be even better.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

Ya know the big spenders.

Those are the Dems.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

Please don’t feed the self-admitted, partisan hack troll.

Trolls. It’s what’s for breakfast!
And then I eat their lunch.

"realitybased"bob said, It’s the new gops I find so, so…un American. Ya know the big spenders. The borrow and spend boys. The rubberstamp crowd.

And this is coming from a Democrat.

“Reality based” inversion.

Kinda wish you used my complete quote and then tried to defend your position...but that’s on you, lik.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

The difference between “borrow and spend” and “tax and spend” is that what is borrowed will be paid back.  Taxation is just confiscation, however.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

What’s on me bob? What are you blathering on about?

I chose not to respond to your complaints against “bushco” and the “Rove-etteers”. What’s the point?

I guess that’s “on me” somehow. *shrugs*

It sounds like Bob is encouraging Republicans to be Conservatives again and at the same time he states that he like Jeff Flake who along with John Shaddegg are two of my favorite people in the entire beltway.

But that is a complete and outright fabrication by Bob.  He does not like Conservative values, in particular conservative fiscal values.  Lowering taxes and spending less.  Otherwise, he would be a disgusted Conservative voter who is angry at the GOP for abandoning us and nominating John McCain.  RBB is supporting the Dem party and is simply trying to stir shit by pointing out that the Republican Party has some flaws.

John Murtha, Jefferson, Pelosi, Boxer, Obama, Clinton--down the list--these folks have serious ethical issues.  Some far more serious than many that you have listed.

What is disgusting about your fake indignation is that you only point out the corruption and issues with Republicans and go so far as to try to tar and feather the local dog catcher who was cheating on his wife as long as there is an R behind his name.  You have seen consistently that most if not all of the Republicans here have been quick to attack BOTH PARTIES ON EARMARKS including Ted Stevens on the Republican Side.  You would attack Stevens but not attack Murtha and this is an indication of you being nothing more than a partisan hack and it makes your words above ring hollow.

...is simply trying to stir shit…

That’s rbb in a nutshell, Justin.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

rbb in a nutshell

Nutshell. Apropos!

Trolls. It’s what’s for breakfast!
And then I eat their lunch.

Oh JB, you are wrong again.

Much like you were wrong about your 1-4 Suns.

Enjoy the long off season, wide stance no pants. I’m sure you’re use to it by now.

God willing your gop team will have a long long off season starting this November.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

Once again, RBB, you confuse me. The Democrats have so much bile for liberal Republicans, and it makes absolutely no sense. Why do you hate RINOs Bob? Why so much Bile for people who are more YOUR ideological equals than ours. It makes absolutely no sense.

Is it because they have spines and you don’t?

Obama/Biden is not change. It’s more of the same.

Well Kenny, from what I have read, most thing discussed here confuse you.

But I do admire you pluck.

Please show me where I have proclaimed hatred for RINO’s.

It’s ok to cut and paste if it’s easier for you, Kenny.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

um. are you folks saying its okay to lie to the FBI or are you twisting shit? can i get a clarification from the angry republicans? are you
1) maintaining that libby did not lie to the FBI
OR
2) maintaining that it should not be punishable to lie to the FBI under oath

None of the circus you refer to was on trial. It was just Libby. The only issue was him lying under oath. Now, a clarification?

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Well Kenny, from what I have read, most thing discussed here confuse you.

Don’t let him bother you Kenny, he is a liberal, festering, puss filled and oozing boil on the ass of life!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

I love you Neiman, do you love me?

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

Please show me where I have proclaimed hatred for RINO’s.

OK, look above:

It’s the new gops I find so, so…un American. Ya know the big spenders. The borrow and spend boys. The rubberstamp crowd. The ball less bunch that kowtows to bushco.

So big spending is a conservative trait? If you’d like to argue that, feel free...but I will make you look even stupider than you already do. Let’s take a list of Bush’s liberal accomplishments shall we?

Was the first President to fund stem cells.
Funded Planned Parenthood quite a bit.
http://www.covenantnews.com/lefemine041031.htm
Went to War with Iraq. (Regime change was a Clinton program. All liberals mocked H.W. Bush for refusing to oust Saddam, until W went in. Then all of a sudden Bush Sr. was a Saint and his son a sinner.)
Increased spending for every social program we have.
Pushed Israel to cede more land to “Palestine”.
Signed NCLB (a Kennedy brainchild) into existance.
Signed McCain-Feingold into existance.
Has made African Aids a major part of his Presidency.
Was a major proponent for Amnesty.
Is a major proponent for the housing bailout.
Signed the biggest Medicare expansion into law.

Etc.

You can pretend all you want that Bush is some massive conservative. But the evidence shows him to be around the bill Clinton spectrum, and perhaps even slightl to his left.

Obama/Biden is not change. It’s more of the same.

TO HANG A SAYNOTHING-BAITER ON SAYANYTHING; JUST GIVE HIM ENOUGH ROPE. TO TRY TO DEBATE A SAYNOTHING- BAITER IS TO KICK A BARKING DOG. IT IS CRUELTY TO ANIMALS, AND LOWERS YOU TO THE LEVEL OF THE BARKING DOG.

SA

um. are you folks saying its okay to lie to the FBI or are you twisting shit? can i get a clarification from the angry republicans?

Not Republican or angry but what I’ve learned is that it’s okay because a Democrat did something as bad or worse, it’s only an issue in the minds of glory seeking prosecutors and Bush haters, the dame wasn’t covert so it never should have been pursued and Libbey just forgot so they weren’t lies. I believe that’s a reasonably accurate summation of the answers I’ve seen to your question through the various comments I’ve read.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.

John Stuart Mill

MikeA
Thanks, but I was hoping one of the ‘ethical’ ‘rational’ Republicans herein might answer. After all, they are so virulent people lie about DHS-related things, it seems that this sort of lying would be a significant threat to national security, no matter which party is represented by the liar.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

MikeA
Thanks, but I was hoping one of the ‘ethical’ ‘rational’ Republicans herein might answer. After all, they are so virulent people lie about DHS-related things, it seems that this sort of lying would be a significant threat to national security, no matter which party is represented by the liar.

Well, let’s look at it. Our special prosecutor knew who the “leak” was before he even questioned Libby. Therefore all of his questions were irrelevant. But the issue of Libby “lying” centers around the date he discussed Valerie Plame with Tim Russert. Now on everything else, except the date, Russert and Libby’s stories were IDENTICAL. They disagreed on WHEN they talked. Other than that, both agreed that Russert brought it up and they discussed her, because Russert already knew.

During the trial SP tried the case as if Libby was the leak, which he wasn’t. The jury was all liberals, and most expressed an open disdain for Bush&Co. The entire trial was a show trial which was more a commentary on Bush’s policy. It was so much that EVERY ONE OF THE JURORS, without exception, commented that they felt bad for Libby, that he was a fall guy...they asked “Where is Rove? Where is Rumsfeld?” Despite the obvious bias there, they saw the trial as what it was. Many commented that they didn’t believe anyone. No one could keep their stories straight. Despite this, they decided that Libby had such an eye for detail, that it was unlikely he’d forget the date, though they unanimously agreed it was hard to believe he lied either.

So, the entire case around Libby was around the exact date he talked to Russert, which had been over a year ago. He was convicted on testimony from other people that also didn’t add up, because they couldn’t keep THEIR facts straight. His trial was never about him.

If you’re ok with a man who’s juggling issues of national security being put away for getting a date wrong, then the issue is with you, not us, Sparkie. Because it shows you to be a petty little man, who’s ok with your political enemies going away, no matter whether it’s deserved or not.

Obama/Biden is not change. It’s more of the same.