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Great post! It never ceases to amaze me how many people comment expertly on the Koran and attempt to minimize its violent, totalitarian, imperialistic essence without ever having read it.

The same goes for people who criticize opponents of Islam without knowing anything about Islam’s bloody history.

Not to mention those that try to compare the Bible with the Koran without ever having read either of them.

D.J.C.

The old testament is quite violent and full of people who value women as property. I must say, I haven’t been killed yet by any of my muslim friends- I guess they must think I’m muslim even though they’ve seen that I go to a christian church. I’m glad you see the need for a holy war against muslims.

ss: Making people aware of the violence toward us contained in the Koran isn’t “a holy war against Muslims”, by any stretch of the imagination.  If they want to give a rational explanation for those teachings, and then disavow them in modern times, I’m OK with that.  No Christians practice any of that stuff from ancient times, but some Muslims still do, and that’s the significant fact.

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Muslims have a long history. They’ve replaced the polytheists that were in the area and also believe in one God. They’ve always warred with Christians over the miditerranean, creating a ‘muslim lake’. There are 3 different types of muslims, Sunni, Shia, and Wahabi. The difference between each of them is a belief in who really founded Islam.

I believe a lot of the animosity between muslims and Christians comes from the fact that they’ve been warring a long time, since the muslims replaced polytheism in the area.

the “no man should serve two masters” I believe is also in the old testament. It is usually interpreted as no man should serve more than one god (God being the master)

Sunnah is the biggest point of contention among contemporary Muslims. Qur’an only Muslims reject Sunnah altogether, while revivalists like Maududi differentiate between Muhammad’s action as a prophet and as a normal human.

I found this interesting. It’s on wikipedia for anyone interested.

Student Student
“You can fix ignorance but you can’t fix stupid.”
Stupid is-- doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results..no wait a minute, that’s insanity....Good luck kid..you’re gonna need it!

S-S
No Man can serve Two Masters is somethng JESUS said.  Matt 6, Luke 16

I just with if people were going to quote scripture they would get a minor clue.

They sell these big books called the Bible you know.

Read and Learn

[b]Old Tigers are more dangerous when they believe this could be their last hunt.

From , “The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen”
Old tigers, sensing the end,
they’re at their most fierce. 
And they go down fighting.

Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom.

Anyone who resist Islam is deemed to be making war with Allah

What a beautiful religion. Hum…
The Religion of Peace, WOW, what a falicy, so Christians are the infidels and should be punished basically what I am getting from this post.

Give tiding of a painful doom to Christians and Jews.

If you refuse to fight, Allah will afflict you with a painful doom.

Those who oppose Allah and His messenger will burn in the fire of hell.

Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway.

Don’t pray for idolaters (not even for your family) after it is clear they are people of hell-fire.

Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you.

More evidence of what a beautiful religion it is.

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SS:
Best advice for you: The beginning of Wisdom is the open awareness of our own ignorance. Seek genuine knowledge rather than mere victory over an opponent.

“Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.”—Plato

Nowadays falsehood stands erect and truth lies prostrate on the ground.

SS
What are you doing, writing this crap as fast as you can make it up?

There are 3 different types of muslims, Sunni, Shia, and Wahabi. The difference between each of them is a belief in who really founded Islam....They’ve always warred with Christians over the miditerranean, creating a ‘muslim lake’.
student student on January 7, 2007 at 05:17 pm

***Wrong***

You got that “Mediterranean Lake” B.S. from JSTOR-In an article called, “Pirenne Again: A Muslim Viewpoint” Kenneth W. Frank The History Teacher, Vol. 26, No. 3 (May, 1993), pp. 371-383

-and that’s the only place it can be found...The Muslim perspective..

There are two basic groups in Islam- Sunni and Shia.

Both Sunni and Shia Muslims share the most fundamental Islamic beliefs and articles of faith.

The differences between these two main sub-groups within Islam initially stemmed not from spiritual differences, but political ones.

It had nothing to do with your “scatterbrained” assertion about who “founded” Islam. (Sheesh)

Sunni Muslims agree with the position taken by many of the Prophet’s companions, that the new leader should be elected from among those capable of the job.

This is what was done, and the Prophet Muhammad’s close friend and advisor, Abu Bakr, became the first Caliph of the Islamic nation.

On the other hand, some Muslims share the belief that leadership should have stayed within the Prophet’s own family.

The Shia Muslims believe that following the Prophet Muhammad’s death, leadership should have passed directly to his cousin/son-in-law, Ali.

Wahhabis are Sunnis-the most “ideologically pure” of the Sunnis and they are the official state religious leaders of the al Saud House.

Osama is a Wahhabi. The Taliban and al Qaeda are Wahhabi. They want Shari’a law, women cloaked and all “infidels” out of “holy soil” and that means a lot of Iraq, all of Arabia and Palestine.

Nowadays falsehood stands erect and truth lies prostrate on the ground.

after reading those quote from the Quran, as well as Bezu’s comment about Shias, I’m now hoping most Iraqis don’t folow their holy book literally ..or else we will find ourself in Iraq to the dawn of time.

Bush should have a conversation with our soon to be UN ambassador about maybe having him change his religion as a prerequisite to taking that post ..

DJC
You got it right when you said:

It never ceases to amaze me how many people comment expertly on the Koran and attempt to minimize its violent, totalitarian, imperialistic essence without ever having read it.
Not to mention those that try to compare the Bible with the Koran without ever having read either of them.
Dirty Jack Cash on January 7, 2007 at 01:31 pm

That’s evidenced right here in the comments.

..also, this also proof an utter ineptness of the CIA and the rest of our federal government.  This excerpts should have been made available to our President before he started talking about democracy for Iraq and about democracy spreading across the Middle East.

You got that “Mediterranean Lake” B.S. from JSTOR-In an article called, “Pirenne Again: A Muslim Viewpoint” Kenneth W. Frank The History Teacher, Vol. 26, No. 3 (May, 1993), pp. 371-383

actually it’s from a history textbook called “Civilisation” by Kenneth Clarke, used in my wonderfully catholic monastery presented to the students in world history.

It had nothing to do with your “scatterbrained” assertion about who “founded” Islam. (Sheesh)

It does because some believe that Mohammed was the beginning of the faith, but other branches believe in different prophets.

S-S
No Man can serve Two Masters is somethng JESUS said.  Matt 6, Luke 16

I just with if people were going to quote scripture they would get a minor clue.

They sell these big books called the Bible you know.

Read and Learn

Thanks for clarifying. Someone else on this blog justified that Islam was evil because nobody could serve two masters in Islam. I knew it was Christian, and I also knew they were quoting something that they should probably know from most likely, their own religion.

Best advice for you: The beginning of Wisdom is the open awareness of our own ignorance. Seek genuine knowledge rather than mere victory over an opponent.

I only seem ignorant because I’ve studied religion, I’ve studied world history, and I have Islamic friends. You probably couldn’t even say that you’ve met an Islamic person, therefore you believe that all Islamic people are murderers. That is the problem with you people. You make assumptions about a general group of people that you haven’t even met.

Both Sunni and Shia Muslims share the most fundamental Islamic beliefs and articles of faith.

Not everyone shares the 5 pillars of Islam. Do you know what they are? They are fundamental beliefs for Sunni muslims for the most part.

I may have gotten the name wrong for the 3rd type of muslim, however I was going to make a point that muslims can be quite divisive and have been fighting over their territory in afghanistan- with all 3 of them disagreeing with each other yet being in seperate parts of the country.

This is what was done, and the Prophet Muhammad’s close friend and advisor, Abu Bakr, became the first Caliph of the Islamic nation.

On the other hand, some Muslims share the belief that leadership should have stayed within the Prophet’s own family.

This is what I meant by trying to say that they believed in seperate leaders/prophets of Islam.

Wahhabis are Sunnis-the most “ideologically pure” of the Sunnis and they are the official state religious leaders of the al Saud House.

Osama is a Wahhabi. The Taliban and al Qaeda are Wahhabi. They want Shari’a law, women cloaked and all “infidels” out of “holy soil” and that means a lot of Iraq, all of Arabia and Palestine.

This is the main group you should despise of any of them. Just because the Wahhabis did it doesn’t mean that you should despise ALL muslims.

Not to mention those that try to compare the Bible with the Koran without ever having read either of them.

I’ve heard psalms from the bible all my life, and sermons based on the bible, readings from the bible that are actually repeated every year, been quizzed on the bible, been to at least 3 religion classes, read the bible for class…

And to make assumptions is to make an ass out of you and me.

I can’t believe I’m arguing with a bunch of people who think it’s right to kill an entire religion and all of its sects.

SS
Take your head out of your ass..the more you comment, the more foolish you sound..quit before you loose all credibility -if you ever had any to begin with.

This is not the first post you’ve ruined with your inane, childish remarks.

quit before you loose all credibility -if you ever had any to begin with.

This is not the first post you’ve ruined with your inane, childish remarks.

You only say that because I disagree with you, troll. I have a right to my opinion.

SS(sheesh)

This is what I meant by trying to say that they believed in seperate leaders/prophets of Islam.
student student on January 7, 2007 at 08:39 pm

****now you’re lying to try to save face..quit while you’re ahead. I don’t like being harsh with children.*******

The difference between each of them is a belief in who really founded Islam....
student student on January 7, 2007 at 05:17 pm

The “founder” of Islam has never been disputed.
If you knew even one one hundreth of what you arrogantly “claim” to know..then maybe you’d have opinions that people would be moderately interested in.

Founder of Islam:
Mohammed
570-632 A.D.
Mohammed claimed to be Allah’s last prophet and that the Koran was Allah’s last book.

No, not kill anyone or any religion, just recognize, and tell The Truth.  Only kill in self defense like when airplanes are flown into buildings, boats blown up against other boats in obvious suicide murderous bombings.

Communism is evil

No, not kill anyone or any religion, just recognize, and tell The Truth.  Only kill in self defense like when airplanes are flown into buildings, boats blown up against other boats in obvious suicide murderous bombings.

Good point Chief how quickly they forget, we are talking about a bunch of boys scouts trying to live peacefully with the rest of the world. I urge everyone to watch the movie Flight 93 how quickly everyone forgets what we are up against. I am just happy Bush was the president at the time of this terrorist attack.

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****now you’re lying to try to save face..quit while you’re ahead. I don’t like being harsh with children.*******

Why would I lie? I’m being honest, if you don’t believe me, people do mess up sometimes. Why don’t you just stop lying and admit that you hate all Muslims?

If you knew even one one hundreth of what you arrogantly “claim” to know..then maybe you’d have opinions that people would be moderately interested in.

Considering I was taught it from a more objective book that you didn’t even know about, yes I did learn it. I do know it. I’m not being arrogant in pointing out that I know something. You’re being arrogant in claiming that you know everything about the said subject. Why aren’t you willing to consider that other people have learned about the same thing but may not be as “articulate” as you are? How arrogant of you to consider me to be a child. That is not even part of what should be a religious debate or a political debate. Why can’t you people grow up and stop calling each other names?

You don’t seem to notice the difference between radical islamicists and your every day joe muslim.

self defense is not when planes fly into buildings...self defense is preventing this from happening you ignorant christian straw brain...REVENGE is what the US did after the failure to DEFEND.  this could have been achieved by listening to our inteligence agencies or even more simply, stop tryining to fuck the middle east for an unfair hegomonic trade policy, or even better better yet, not let marvin bush detonate the buildings in the first place...you are all so far behind the times it will be too late to even try to catch up soon chief.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam

contribute to this article if you want to continue to persecute muslims for what you think they are.

contribute to this article if you want to continue to persecute muslims for what you think they are.

Maybe you should look up the definition of “persecute”, ss; we are just taking them at their word.

Save America; boycott the MSM.

Your interpretation of their word.

If I took the Bible or Torah literally, it would be detrimental.

I can’t believe I’m arguing with a bunch of people who think it’s right to kill an entire religion and all of its sects.

No, we just want to kill all the terrorists.  Do you have a problem with that?  Why do you make things up like that?  No one here has said anything of the kind.

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If I took the Bible or Torah literally, it would be detrimental.

Incorrect SS.  A literal translation of the Bible within its context would not be detrimental. It is when something is added to it, or a portion of it is spiritualized (taken figuratively), that you have trouble.

I can’t believe I’m arguing with a bunch of people who think it’s right to kill an entire religion and all of its sects.

Student,

I have re-read this entire thread, and I don’t see where anyone has made such a suggestion.  Would you be good enough to point out, specifically, which of this “bunch of people” endorsed the idea of killing “an entire religion and all its sects.” Please!

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

If I took the Bible or Torah literally, it would be detrimental.

Student,

Are you quite sure that you are sufficiently knowledgeable about either book to to do this?  I rather doubt it.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Hell, according to his Qu’ran and his beliefs, we “ARE” the enemy!!!!

“No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.”

No, we just want to kill all the terrorists.  Do you have a problem with that?  Why do you make things up like that?  No one here has said anything of the kind.

You need to be more clear. When I opened up this article, I saw an analysis of what was believed to be an important part of the Qur’an. There was no explanation as to who it was being applied to, except for the fact that Muslims use it. I’m not denying the fact that the Qur’an is the Muslims’ holy book. However, in order to see it from a correct perspective, there should be something to the effect of “(insert Muslim sect here) believes (insert their beliefs)” instead.

I came to the conclusion that all Muslims use the Qur’an, the Qur’an is an entirely sadistic book that encourages killing nonmuslims, thus all Muslims are cold hearted killers who only support other Muslims.

If I took the Bible or Torah literally, it would be detrimental.

If it was taken literally, I could say that I’d pay a price for your daughter if she were damaged when my son raped her (provided I had a son). You could provide me with money if my ‘son’ married her. You could say that a lot of the figurative language in the bible were true, and that it wasn’t wrong to have someone other than your wife conceive a baby for you.

Perhaps I have it a little mixed up, but my point is, there are plenty of parts in the bible that can be read the wrong way and used as blanket statements. The bible is known for inconsistencies, and some religions don’t accept books that others do. For example, the book of revelations (which can also be read several ways).

As for your doubt about reading the bible, I may have read the bible but I didn’t memorize it.

thats a rather presumptous and patriarchal not to mention rascist sounding asumption bat one.

Are you quite sure that you are sufficiently knowledgeable about either book to to do this?  I rather doubt it.

I don’t think anyone is able to be sufficiently knowledgeable unless they are of that religion or have studied it professionally and objectively.

Thus I guess I would not be sufficiently knowledgable, nor would you. However, I could still say that I know at least a few grains of truth and it’s rather pointless to say that I know nothing at all.

I came to the conclusion…

How are we responsible for the content of your conclusions?  You still attributed things to us that we didn’t say; are you pleading ignorance again?  That one won’t work twice.

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If it was taken literally, I could say that I’d pay a price for your daughter if she were damaged when my son raped her (provided I had a son).

Your son would be dead if you followed the law of Israel you allude to.

If you read the Bible literally you would know that OT law was given to Israel exclusively—that is, to no other nation.  If America decided to adopt the Mosaic law, we would not be taking the Bible literally.

drkrofomatic,

By all indications, Student Student is nowhere nearly as as offended as you presume to be.  So much for presumptuousness.

Patriarchal?  Well, I am likely old enough to be her father, so that’s hardly an issue for either of us.

As for your accusation of racism, there was nothing racist about my comment at all (check your dictionary, genius!).  Besides, in making that tiresome accusation, you presume that you know my racial or ethnic background… which only brings us back to your own presumptuousness.

Your thought processes are as unimpressive as your grammar.  Come back again when your intellect has developed sufficiently to match your vocabulary.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat one, I’ve come to ignore those comments, however there are some on this site that I can’t ignore about me

The bible is known for inconsistencies,

Mostly by those who haven’t read it or have lifted portions out of context.

I don’t believe there should be a double standard about personal attributes here. I certainly don’t appreciate the mudslinging, which is why I have to take a break from politics. Ignorance is bliss sometimes, and frankly the state of the world is the saddest thing I’ve ever seen other than a few things I’ve probably already mentioned. I have a stepbrother with less than 5 years to live now, and spending Christmas with him was one of the saddest things on my list.

Things I have been called on this site include:
ignorant, dumb, stupid, democrat, not learning, arrogant, childish, and the list goes on.

Nobody deserves to be called names, yet I backlash. I’ve been told to leave the site by several of you because I have a different point of view. I’ve never been taken seriously and all of you, no matter what the subject, have told me that my studies are completely biased and that I learned nothing from the monks and teachers at my school. My parents pay for a college education and I get good grades. I may not work full time, but that is not a reason to think I am lesser than you. I work in the summer, and those that I work with consider me to be smart and resourceful. They would hire me again in no time, but I prefer to look for a job I want while I have the time. I’m smart enough to know when not to have a permanent job.

I know I haven’t exactly said nice things about others, but when I feel that the discussion has turned into “bash student student” time, it does get nasty. I’d prefer that you respect each other.

rather is the word that i find troublesome, and I rather do think it has rascist patriarchal ring to it when used in your context.  and like the smart person you are not I should point out that it does not matter what your race is for me to call you a rascist, and on an even more factual metaphysical and ontological level, it doesn’t even have to be “true” that you are a rascist for me to have the right to make the statement.Your thought processes are as unimpressive as your grammar.  Come back again when your intellect has developed sufficiently to match your vocabulary. dummy.

Student,

Glad to see you back again.  I trust you enjoyed the holidays, and will have a happy, safe, and prosperous 2007.

You’ll have to forgive me, but it is late and I have an early series of appointments tomorrow.  I think if you’ll re-read Bezu’s original post, you’ll find that the quotes are commands taken from the Koran, not historical descriptions of past events as is more common in the Old Testament and the Torah.

No one has suggested killing each and every Muslim.  I know of several very prominent Muslims who I would entrust with my life or those of my family.  Still, from London and Paris, across Europe and North Africa, the Middle East, South and Central Asia, down the entire Malay peninsula and the Southern Philippines, it IS Muslims who are attacking those who chose not to accept their religious faith.  Not Hindus, not Sikhs, not Buddhists or Baptists.  That fact is very disconcerting.  And it ought to be.

I’m out.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

goodnite bat...if you are still awake read my response...it will help you sleep...I respect your early morning so no pressure nor need to respond.  nighty nighty you prick.

Things I have been called on this site include:
ignorant, dumb, stupid, democrat, not learning, arrogant, childish, and the list goes on.

So, being called a “democrat” offends you?  I think you might keep in mind that none of us are responsible for your feelings.  If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!  BTW, that is not an invitation to leave; it is a recommendation to lighten up.  You come on here with a combative attitude, then complain and act the victim because people fight with you.  Tough!

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As I’ve stated many times before, and it sounds like you agree: I’m against Muslim extremists. These are the people who hurt and kill others.

As I’ve stated many times before, and it sounds like you agree: I’m against Muslim extremists. These are the people who hurt and kill others.

Ditto.  I just wish the “moderate Muslims” and the “peaceful Muslims” would stand up and be counted.  That would help their image a whole lot.  Right now, the violent, murdering extremist Muslims are getting all the press coverage.  Go figure.

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well I’m glad you want them to stand up. I’m also proud of the fact that there is a large group I’ve seen (including a friend of mine) who are going out and donating to any charity and trying to put forth a positive attitude. It’s good to see that they are contributing positively to the community around me, and I hope that they do the same for your community and others.

ss: If they really want to help, they can turn in the extremists in their midst.  That would be a real big help. When they remain silent, they aid the terrorists and assist in the killing of the terrorist victims.

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I read a post somewhere stating that we are fighting alongside Muslim forces and we also train them and they still choose to fight alongside us against the extremists. Is this true?

an important part of the Qur’an. There was no explanation as to who it was being applied to, except for the fact that Muslims use it. I’m not denying the fact that the Qur’an is the Muslims’ holy book. However, in order to see it from a correct perspective, there should be something to the effect of “(insert Muslim sect here)(holy shit-what a Moron!) believes (insert their beliefs)” instead.
student student on January 8, 2007 at 01:15 am

You get worse and worse with each comment. The mistakes are growing exponentially with each word you write.

It’s painfully obvious to everyone that you A) have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about and B) that you’re a fibber.

You’re a ridiculous little(know-it-all) girl who’s way out of her league. It wouldn’t be quite so bad if you weren’t such a hoity toity arrogant little bitch.

If you were anything but that, people would try to help you along and give a least a minimum amount of credence to your silly remarks.

If you would stop overreaching and trying to be something you’re not, you might meet with a little success.

Do you even know what this post is about? You never once mentioned the point of contention; that Keith Ellison can’t “swear” on the Koran and at the same time “swear” to protect and defend the constitution.

You don’t even read (or perhaps don’t comprehend) the posts that you comment on and you sure as hell are missing the point of every one else’s comments.

This happens because you have a misplaced hypersensitive (social justice) need to fit everything into a neat little preconceived (naive) package that substantiates what you think you’re learning in school (five pillars of Islam-give me a break)

Stick to the things that you do have some expertise in; like depression (HERE) and other mental and emotional problems.

Mick! Sorry I missed this! Most excellent post. Nothing like rolling that newspaper up real tight and wacking the sleeping sheeples with it.

SS, I have listened to your dhimmitude parade of hits before. No thanks, I’ll listen to Gnarls Barkley instead.

Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

You get worse and worse with each comment. The mistakes are growing exponentially with each word you write.

It’s painfully obvious to everyone that you A) have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about and B) that you’re a fibber.

You’re a ridiculous little(know-it-all) girl who’s way out of her league. It wouldn’t be quite so bad if you weren’t such a hoity toity arrogant little bitch.

If you were anything but that, people would try to help you along and give a least a minimum amount of credence to your silly remarks.

If you would stop overreaching and trying to be something you’re not, you might meet with a little success.

Do you even know what this post is about? You never once mentioned the point of contention; that Keith Ellison can’t “swear” on the Koran and at the same time “swear” to protect and defend the constitution.

You don’t even read (or perhaps don’t comprehend) the posts that you comment on and you sure as hell are missing the point of every one else’s comments.

This happens because you have a misplaced hypersensitive (social justice) need to fit everything into a neat little preconceived (naive) package that substantiates what you think you’re learning in school (five pillars of Islam-give me a break)

Stick to the things that you do have some expertise in; like depression (HERE) and other mental and emotional problems.

tHis is fucking verbal abuse, asshole. I do know something other than depression whether you care to know it or not. I’ve read every post on this entry and commented on it. I UNDERSTAND what I am doing. You do not. I don’t lie, I make mistakes at times. And by no means ARE YOU PERFECT, you little shit.

Just because you call me names does not make you better than me. I’m simply retaliating and I hope you enjoy every little bit of it.

I see that you have no respect for any of my opinions, nor do you care for my freedom of speech. Some of your friends here don’t even advocate freedom of speech, otherwise they wouldn’t be telling me to shut up and fuck off.

Mick! Sorry I missed this! Most excellent post. Nothing like rolling that newspaper up real tight and wacking the sleeping sheeples with it.

SS, I have listened to your dhimmitude parade of hits before. No thanks, I’ll listen to Gnarls Barkley instead.

It’s most excellent when you go on a non-political tirade about how dumb a person is. Why don’t you get over yourself?

There’s a reason mom told me never to admit I had depression. It’s because of ignorant people like you who choose to put people down on the basis of their depression. Not to mention, you’re all making fun of me solely on the basis of my age, stating that I have no experience. You haven’t bothered to read anything that I link to ever, thus believing that I made it up. Why don’t you all do your own research instead of reading someone’s blog?

The 5 pillars of Islam is not bullshit, it exists. Look it up, I’m sure it’s in encarta, it’s in wikipedia, it’s on any islamic site, etc. Go look it up. I challenge you to find the text book I learned from and read it. Apparently you don’t have time to look it up just because you believe it’s all bullshit.

Making fun of depression is very immature of all of you.

You are the ones who need to grow up.

Who the hell said anything about depression? You need to peal the scales from your eyes, Dhimmi.

Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

Sorry! Just caught up in email. Still, peal those scales.

Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

SS,

It is good to have you here.  One of my first discussions on SAB was with you as I recall.  Don’t mind the name calling.  Hell, 95% of the time I agree w/ R108 and he still lets me know when he disagrees with me—in less than respectable terms.
It’s kind of the nature of the beast.

You get worse and worse with each comment. The mistakes are growing exponentially with each word you write.

It’s painfully obvious to everyone that you A) have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about and B) that you’re a fibber.

You’re a ridiculous little(know-it-all) boy who’s way out of his league. It wouldn’t be quite so bad if you weren’t such a hoity toity arrogant little asshole.

If you were anything but that, people would try to help you along and give a least a minimum amount of credence to your silly remarks.

If you would stop overreaching and trying to be something you’re not, you might meet with a little success.

Do you even know what this post is about? You never once mentioned the point of contention; that Keith Ellison can’t “swear” on the Koran and at the same time “swear” to protect and defend the constitution.

You don’t even read (or perhaps don’t comprehend) the posts that you comment on and you sure as hell are missing the point of every one else’s comments.

This happens because you have a misplaced hypersensitive (social justice) need to fit everything into a neat little preconceived (naive) package that substantiates what you think you know (that all little girls are hoity toity bitches)

Stick to the things that you do have some expertise in; like trolling (HERE) and other mental and emotional problems.

I see that most of this can apply to you, since there really isn’t any substance to what you say. I see that you are a little kid who would like to be a grown up. You have not ever mentioned your opinion on this article. Just like every time I’ve been on here, all you’ve done is slandered my character. You have never actually commented on the articles you claim to read other than the fact that you just summarized the title of this article into your comment about my lack of intelligence. You don’t read my comments correctly, and you always make snide remarks about me once I’ve agreed on something with someone.

If you weren’t such an arrogant little troll, I wouldn’t have to spend so much time on you to prove that I wasn’t a hoity toity bitch.

‘getting out the newspaper’ on this little girl IS an arrogant comment. You assume that you’re all above me. All the names you called me are a form of arrogance, especially since you initiated the fight.

I think it’s contradictory the way you people say that I should not be in the political arena because I’m so high and mighty and stupid at the same time; yet, you tell me that I’m not involved enough. Which is it? You’re a real hypocrite.

I don’t expect political blogs to turn into mobs of people trying to kick me off their site.

I guess you really wouldn’t care if I had a republican vote or not because you obviously aren’t trying hard enough. I’d say that your campaign is so disrespectful that I have no respect left for republicans like you. If you really wanted me to believe your side, you wouldn’t call me things like “hoity toity arrogant bitch” and then turn around in an entry and complain that the democrats are saying such mean things in their entries, and the mudslinging is just TERRIBLE over there.

What I see in other blogs is the same as I see in this one. All of you are just reduced to slinging insults at one another in an attempt to prove that you’re legitimately concerned about the issue.

SS,

It is good to have you here.  One of my first discussions on SAB was with you as I recall.  Don’t mind the name calling.  Hell, 95% of the time I agree w/ R108 and he still lets me know when he disagrees with me—in less than respectable terms.
It’s kind of the nature of the beast.

Sorry, didn’t see this post before I posted my spiteful above post. A lot of times when I say that I agree with someone, they tell me they disagree with me, and it just doesn’t make sense. I’m really irritated because this is one of those cases...where I read it wrong, and I likewise agree that terrorists are the ones that should be killed.

and if that didn’t come out right, I’m just saying the end result is “I agree the terrorists are the ones who should be killed” etc. Not that I had changed my conclusion from that, but I’d simply misunderstood the aim of the article.

SS, who ever is teaching you about Islam, you need to get away from that person. They are teaching you all kinds of contradictory crap. We have had this discussion before. Your acceptance of Islam as superior to all other laws or cultures is your choice. You have no right to force that choice on anyone else, only your own child.

Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

What I see in other blogs is the same as I see in this one. All of you are just reduced to slinging insults at one another in an attempt to prove that you’re legitimately concerned about the issue.

SS,

No doubt some argue for the sake of contention as much as anything else.  Who cares.  Let ‘em have there fun.  You’re none the lesser for another’s contentious motives.  Let it go.

Your acceptance of Islam as superior to all other laws or cultures is your choice. You have no right to force that choice on anyone else, only your own child.

I never said it was superior, nor do I believe that. You have no right to force Christianity or Atheism on anyone but your own child, since you believe it’s the most superior religion.

I guess you have the right to tell your child to kill all the Muslims he can, nevermind that most of them aren’t terrorists or ever will be.

I simply stated, and it may have been in an other article, something like this:

If we can swear on the King James version of the bible, then we can swear on the Catholic Bible, the Torah, and any other holy script, not excluding the Qur’an as a choice. It would be a lie to the United States and to yourself if you swore on something that was not valuable to you.

However, there is also a reason for not swearing at all: Swearing is against many religions because it is not pleasing to God. Most people overlook this but it is just like saying God’s name in vain.

ss: “Swearing an oath of office” is not cursing, which is what you are referring to.  Same word, different meaning.

Save America; boycott the MSM.

r108: There is a New Testament admonition against swearing in the sense of taking an oath. The sense being, if you tell the truth all the time, you don’t have to swear to affirm portions of it at other times.

Barack Obama: All hat and no cattle since 1997!

Does that apply to Ellison?  If not, it may be true, but irrelevant to the present discussion.  “Oath” also has more than one meaning.

Save America; boycott the MSM.

If we can swear on the King James version of the bible, then we can swear on the Catholic Bible, the Torah, and any other holy script, not excluding the Qur’an as a choice.

SS,

Most Americans do not distinguish between Bible versions.  That said, I agree there is a difference between the versions.

It would be a lie to the United States and to yourself if you swore on something that was not valuable to you.

The swearing in has more to do with the integrity of a person and that person’s word than the object on which the oath is sworn.  The importance of the Qur’an being used is that it disrespects our heritage and our tradition.

Sorry, didn’t see this post before I posted my spiteful above post.

That’s the word I was looking for: spiteful.  You might try two things, if your feelings are really getting hurt here; make an effort to be more informed before you hold forth on a subject; and try to be accurate instead of spiteful.  No one appreciates your spitefulness, especially when you don’t have your facts straight.

Save America; boycott the MSM.

“Again you have heard that it was said to your ancestors, ‘Do not take a false oath, but make good to the Lord all that you vow.’
But I say to you, do not swear at all; not by heaven, for it is God’s throne;
nor by the earth, for it is his footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King.
Do not swear by your head, for you cannot make a single hair white or black.  Let your ‘Yes’ mean ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No’ mean ‘No.’

from the Sermon on the Mount, Matthew 5: 33-37

Barack Obama: All hat and no cattle since 1997!