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Tuesday, April 17, 2007

January 2006 - Virginia House Kills Bill Allowing College Students to Carry Weapons on Campus

I feel safer…

From the Roanoke Times article dated January 31, 2006:

A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.

House Bill 1572 didn’t get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. It died Monday in the subcommittee stage, the first of several hurdles bills must overcome before becoming laws.

The bill was proposed by Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Shenandoah County, on behalf of the Virginia Citizens Defense League. Gilbert was unavailable Monday and spokesman Gary Frink would not comment on the bill’s defeat other than to say the issue was dead for this General Assembly session.

Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. “I’m sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly’s actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus.”

[...]

Most universities in Virginia require students and employees, other than police, to check their guns with police or campus security upon entering campus. The legislation was designed to prohibit public universities from making “rules or regulations limiting or abridging the ability of a student who possesses a valid concealed handgun permit ... from lawfully carrying a concealed handgun.”

[...]

Last spring a Virginia Tech student was disciplined for bringing a handgun to class, despite having a concealed handgun permit. Some gun owners questioned the university’s authority, while the Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police came out against the presence of guns on campus.

In June, Tech’s governing board approved a violence prevention policy reiterating its ban on students or employees carrying guns and prohibiting visitors from bringing them into campus facilities.


Yep, that is right, this bill was killed one year and three months ago.  Had one single student been armed and shot the son of a bitch, it might have saved the lives of the other 30.  Bet they wish the student that had been disciplined two years ago was there.

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Little chance those who wish to disarm the general population of America will learn at all from this. Just as they have yet to learn from any previous events.


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2Hotel9 on April 17, 2007 at 03:36 pm

Right, 2H, instead they will call for more gun control legislation.


You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

docdave on April 17, 2007 at 03:45 pm

Because the campus ban on handguns was so effective in preventing this tragedy. 

The false sense of safety goes away real quick when bullets start flying, and the lack of guns makes for much easier targets.

Justin B. on April 17, 2007 at 04:42 pm

This story really upsets me that those kids only hope of protection was sheilding themselves with a desk.

Zsa Zsa on April 17, 2007 at 05:02 pm

Everyone should have the right to protect him or her self, not depend on a government that sends out notes hours after the danger materializes to do it for them.  This is a story of incompetence from the administration at the school in notifying the students and protecting them from the danger and of students unable to defend themselves against a killer on a rampage.

People died in Katrina and it was the Bush Administrations’ fault, not the fault of those that were unable to take care of themselves.  In this case, the legislature told people to depend on government for their safety and then government failed to protect them.

Let students and all Americans defend themselves.  It is our right.  As we saw in the SLC mall attack, one citizen with a gun stopped that rampage after only five people died.  I wish a student had been armed at VA Tech like the off duty cop in the Mall was.

Justin B. on April 17, 2007 at 05:12 pm
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This story really upsets me that those kids only hope of protection was sheilding themselves with a desk.

There’s an account over at The Corner of a Holocaust survivor who, according to Fox News, “barricaded the classroom door with his body while his students escaped through the windows.”
Heroes walk among us…

(Scroll down to The Horror at VA Tech 04/17 08:21 AM)



For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

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Proof on April 17, 2007 at 05:12 pm

That is awesome! I heard that earlier and started to cry. He is so sweet and brave to do that...He needs rewarding.

Zsa Zsa on April 17, 2007 at 05:24 pm
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He needs rewarding.

Having survived the terror of the Nazis, and given the choice of sacrificing his life, or fleeing for it, he died like a man and left the world a richer place for having lived in it.



For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

Proof on April 17, 2007 at 05:37 pm

He will get rewarded in heaven. That is so sweet!

Zsa Zsa on April 17, 2007 at 05:43 pm

Now, if I were a tactician from the Left and some tragedy like this occurred, I wouldn’t hesitate to form a committee, urge all the Million Moms to phone, write, fax and pee on your Sen/Rep (Lefties have done odder things, such as send animal poo in the mail to Sen / Reps).

All that is needed is unmitigated gall, some postage and fax money and folks with nothing better to do.

Tearing a page from the Leftist playbook, Constitutional Grass-rooters might do the following (but it is unlikely, since Conservatives don’t generally go out of their way to offend):

1) Establish a list of all Senators and Delegates (as Representatives are called in Virginia) who voted to kill the College Kids CCW Bill;

2) Establish a list of all other lobbyists, groups and notable figures that championed killing the bill;

3) Establish a list of all those victims murdered by the South Korean shooter, and the circumstances as best can be determined as to how each died;

4) Draft a letter to all named in lists #1 and #2, saying that The Blood of So and So is On Your Hands

Crass?

Yes.

True.

Absolutely.

Will it offend?  Too bad.  These people set the stage for the massacre.  The made sure that the law abiding were set up as defenseless sheep.  They set the machinery in motion to ensure each of the young folks on list #3 were in terror in the last few moments of their lives and the last overwhelming emotion was undoubtedly helplessness.

That helplessness in the face of a determined, armed murderer was entirely foreseeable and entirely avoidable.

Certainly the killer is to blame.

Certainly the so-called leaders that prevented the victims from protecting themselves by the virtue of a right enshrined in the Second Amendment are as guilty as the guy who pulled the trigger.


...for great justice

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Move_Zig on April 17, 2007 at 06:04 pm
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