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This might all be a bunch of smoke, but why isn’t he releasing his birth certificate. 

Don’t the voters have a right to know?

Is this why Hillary stayed in the race until after the last primary?

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

MC-CAIN’S LAST DATE WITH THE REAGAN REPUBLICAN PARTY

McCain’s ideological support, like Bush’s, comes from Podhoretz Neo-Cons and Leiberman Neo-Libs, not Reagan Conservatives nor Kennedy Liberals. These supporters have the same Neo-Marxist roots, which originated over 60 years ago, when millions of defeated Marxist immigrants from Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union were admitted by America, as desperate persecuted refugees; after all of the European nations refused to take them.

By the McCarthy Era, many of these pathetic refugees had gotten good government positions; and, by way of showing their deep gratitude to the American People, they systematically corrupted the government and endangered national security, by working as spies for Marxist Russia. The most notorious of these spies, the Rosenbergs, were executed for treason. This had the intended beneficial effect of stopping most of the dangerous spying; but it had the unintended consequence of causing these Marxist refugees to seek social and economic power by pretentiously assimilating into the Conservative Republican and Liberal Democrat parties; where they quickly mutated into the Neo-Conservatives and Neo-Liberals, with insidious ideological opposition to traditional Christian culture and Constitutional principles.  The result of the subversive influence by these virulent Crypto-Neo-Marxists in the government, schools, news media and entertainment media was the increasingly intolerably cultural degeneration that has led up to the American Cultural War. 

Podhoretz Neo-Con and Leiberman Neo-Lib ideology notoriously instills subversive contempt for patriotism, defensive war, historical accuracy, Christian culture, and Constitutional rule, United Nations resolutions, and Conservative Reagan Republicans and Liberal Kennedy Democrats. 

All of this contempt is transparently motivated by a dogmatic belief in gaining an advantage by insubordination to the practices of national religious and governmental traditions, which grant the inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.  These Crypto-Neo-Marxists, like their failed Marxists predecessors, imagine that they can somehow create their own new superior civilization, if they first destroy the traditional allegiance to the nuclear family, Christianity, nationalism, and the Constitution. 

Israel, which these Marxists refugees have had all to themselves for 60 years, to do their utopian social engineering, in their own artificially created state, is notoriously poorly governed and heavily subsidized by the Diaspora; and the People of Israel, once the most widely pitied in the World, have come to justly earn the distinction of now being the most universally despised, condemned, and threatened with annihilation.

In this crucial 2008 presidential battle of the American Cultural War shall the Reagan Conservatives and the Kennedy Liberals finally combine forces against these desperately united Podhoretz Neo-Cons and Leiberman Neo-Libs supporting Insane McCain; or shall they continue to suffer ideological corruption of their Republican and Democrat parties, subversion of their traditional Christian culture and Constitutional rule, pernicious governmental strife, and the illegal and un-patriotic sacrifice of the wealth and blood of the American People to sole benefit of Israel?

With Leiberman Neo-Lib Princess Hillary burnt at stake by the Kennedy Liberal Democratic Party, shall Podhoretz Neo-Con McCain have his final date for the presidency, or for the Reagan Conservative Republican firing squad? 

Google: “Mearsheimer Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy”; “Evans Blacklisted by History: Untold Story of Joe McCarthy”; “Wall Street Journal McCain-Feingold”; Stricherz Why the Democrats are Blue; “Human Events Ron Paul Interview”; McClelland “What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington’s Culture of Deception”; McCain Keating Five; Abramoff Israel McCain.

I think it’s a rumor, but all the same, why wouldn’t he try to stop any doubt. It’s not like they didn’t rake McCain over the coals on his credentials.
I say fess up Obama, just like it’s required of the other candidates

Good questions, W.  Will we get any answers?

Or will the pertinent documents simply vanish as they did when Sandy Berger was caught burgling the National Archives?

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

Stonewalling on the issue of one’s Constitutional qualifications for office is not acceptable.

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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

I see you guys are trying to get your xenophobic base out.

If natural born citizenry is a requirement for the presidency, doesn’t Obama have a legal requirement to prove his citizenry?

You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

I see the lestupid is trying to get the “forget what the Constitution says, it’s what we want that matters” base out…

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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

What about the fact that John McCain was born a bastard child to a father who was a Panamanian national?

The husband of John McCain’s mother is not his father. His father was a Panamanian national with whom McCain’s mother had an affair while in the Panama Canal Zone. McCain is a bastard child whose biological father is a Panamanian national.

This is damaging and it means that McCain isn’t qualified to be president because he isn’t even a US citizen.

And the McCain camp sure is quiet on this. I mean, if this isn’t true, why don’t they just dig up his father from the grave and run a DNA test to prove that the guy in the hole is really McCain’s father?

Notice how McCain has adopted some kids of his own? Why is this? Well, he feels a kinship with these kids: kids who don’t know their real dad.

What are you hiding John McCain? Dig your dad up from the grave and provide some DNA evidence if this isn’t true.

Obviously the idiots are about.

For my part I feel that children born to servicemen while they are stationed overseas ought to have every right that they would if they were born here.

On the other hand I’m not sure that’s what the constitution says.

But aside from that frack off BJS.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Article II
Section 1.

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

Is our constitution a living document?

Are strict constructionists OK with Mr. McCain’s candadicy?

Do we need an activist gop judge to make a ruling?

Interesting topic, no?

Excuse me, you were saying?

Are strict constructionists OK with Mr. McCain’s candadicy?

To Batshit’s lover rbb: If McCain does not qualify under the Constitution as written, he should not be allowed to assume the presidency. I don’t know that facts of his birth nor Obama’s, but if either fall outside the narrow definition of the Constitution, they should not be allowed to take the oath! Which means President Pelosi doesn’t it?

It is very interesting! I think both men are obligated to document and absolutely prove they are qualified by birth!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone.  The rest of the guy’s comment was absolute crap.

It would be terrifically unfair if McCain weren’t eligible to assume the highest office because of that.  But I’m not saying that the constitution is fair. 

I guess it comes down to Natural Born Citizen and what does that mean.  I would take it as if US law at the time called him that then he passes the test.  I would imagine it did and that this does not disqualify McCain.

On the other hand I am not an expert.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Well Neiman, there seems to be no dispute as to the gop candidates birthplace.

Mr. McCain’s likely nomination as the Republican candidate for president and the happenstance of his birth in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936 ...

What are you prepared to do, now that a non natural born person is one step away from illegally assuming the Presidency?

Excuse me, you were saying?

I agree, it would be unfair.

But if we are to take our Constitution as written, it looks like the gop needs a new candidate.

What is the Republican position on the interpretation of our Constitution?

Excuse me, you were saying?

Well it seems to me that he was born in US territory and under US law he was probably a US citizen at the moment he was born.  (I’m assuming what the law was.)

I’d take that as a natural born US citizen, others might have a better argument than that.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

toot, if McCain’s parent were legal American citizens it doesn’t matter where he was born {many Americans are outside the USA], he stil qualifies as a natural born citizen.

You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

OK, so if a Panamanian woman was to have a child in the Canal Zone in 1936, would that child be eligible to become our President?

dd, that is not as cut and dry as you presume.

Mr. McCain is not the first person to find himself in these circumstances. The last Arizona Republican to be a presidential nominee, Barry Goldwater, faced the issue. He was born in the Arizona territory in 1909, three years before it became a state. But Goldwater did not win, and the view at the time was that since he was born in a continental territory that later became a state, he probably met the standard.

It also surfaced in the 1968 candidacy of George Romney, who was born in Mexico, but again was not tested. The former Connecticut politician Lowell P. Weicker Jr., born in Paris, sought a legal analysis when considering the presidency, an aide said, and was assured he was eligible. Franklin D. Roosevelt Jr. was once viewed as a potential successor to his father, but was seen by some as ineligible since he had been born on Campobello Island in Canada. The 21st president, Chester A. Arthur, whose birthplace is Vermont, was rumored to have actually been born in Canada, prompting some to question his eligibility.

Excuse me, you were saying?

The constitution does not define ‘natural born,’ although it has long been held that this was a prohibition against anyone born of citizens of another nation (foreigner) and born outside the United States was not notural born.

It seems to me that, like the military, if John and Mary soldier have a child born to them while in a foreign land, even if in a civilian hospital, the parents and the child retain all rights as natural born citizens.

Supreme Court has said:
Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857): In regard to the “natural born citizen” clause, the dissent states that it is acquired by place of birth (jus soli), not through blood or lineage (jus sanguinis): “The first section of the second article of the Constitution uses the language, ‘a natural-born citizen.’ It thus assumes that citizenship may be acquired by birth. Undoubtedly, this language of the Constitution was used in reference to that principle of public law, well understood in this country at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, which referred citizenship to the place of birth.” (Much of the majority opinion in this case was overturned by the 14th Amendment in 1868.)
United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898): A person born within the jurisdiction of the U.S. to non-citizens who “are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity” is automatically a citizen.
Weedin v. Chin Bow, 274 U.S. 657 (1927): A child born outside the U.S. cannot claim U.S. citizenship by birth through a U.S. citizen parent who had never lived in the U.S. prior to the child’s birth. (This is still true today, although the specific statutes upon which the Supreme Court’s ruling was based have changed since 1927.)
Montana v. Kennedy, 366 U.S. 308 (1961): A person born in 1906, whose mother was a native-born citizen of the United States and whose father was a foreign citizen, who was born overseas and then moved to the United States, was not a citizen of the United States by birth. (Note that the relevant laws have changed considerably since 1906, so this decision does not necessarily apply to later cases.)
Schneider v. Rusk, 377 U.S. 163 (1964): The Court voided a statute that provided that a naturalized citizen should lose his United States citizenship if, following naturalization, he resided continuously for three years in his former homeland. ”We start from the premise that the rights of citizenship of the native-born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the ‘natural born’ citizen is eligible to be President.”
Miller v. Albright, 523 U.S. 420 (1998): A child born overseas to an American father and a foreign mother (not married) is not a U.S. citizen unless paternity is established before an established age (in this case 21). This case challenged the law on the grounds that U.S. law requires no explicit acknowledgment of parenthood in the case of a foreign-born child to an American mother and a foreign father (not married).
Nguyen v. INS, 533 U.S. 53 (2001): As in the Miller v. Albright case, the Court holds that a child born overseas to an American father and a foreign mother (not married) is not a U.S. citizen unless paternity is established before an established age (in this case 18). The child was brought to the U.S. before his sixth birthday and raised by his father; however, after a criminal conviction, deportation was ordered but the child claimed U.S. citizenship. His citizenship was denied because paternity had not been established prior to his 18th birthday. The Court upheld the law, once again affirming that Congress has the power to define citizenship outside the citizenship dictated by the 14th Amendment (citizenship by birth).”

I don’t know where that gets us, but it is interesting!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

So in your opinion, is McCain is violating our Constitution?

Excuse me, you were saying?

Re-stated: Is McCain ineligible to be our President?

Excuse me, you were saying?

If it were up to me I’d say he was eligible.  The constitution called it natural born US citizens and didn’t say where they were born.  They left that to congress.

I assume the laws at the time made him a born citizen at the time of his birth. 

“Natural Born Citizen.”

On the other hand I wish he was a Natural Born Private Citizen and not an official in the US government.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

So in your opinion, is McCain is violating our Constitution?

I don’t have enough facts, but I believe he qualifies as a natural born citizen! It would really be a damn mess if either man had to go the the Supreme Court to decide their citizenship.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

I’d say he should be eligible too.

But if strict constructionism is to be hailed as a virtue (and if memory serves, I have heard that phrase once or twice before)...Houston, we have a problem.

Excuse me, you were saying?

I assume the laws at the time made him a born citizen at the time of his birth. 

Would you assume my hypothetical Panamanian child was a natural born US citizen too?

Excuse me, you were saying?

I think that would be up to the rules that Congress had set at the time. 

I don’t believe Congress could change their status retroactively as it’s “natural born” that makes me think that it was the conditions of when they were born.

But I’m not holding myself out as an expert.  I am surprised that nobody was born in the territories that became president.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

I personally think this whole issue is rediculous.  If liberals go after McCain on this issue it will drum up support for McCain.  Likewise, if the gop go hard after Obama wish this issue and they are wrong, it will be bad for them. 

Both McCain and Obama should give up their birth certificates and get this thing settled.

A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.

Looks like we have a definitive answer (subject to the authenticity of the document as posted by Marcos “screw them” Zuniga):

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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

This is news even though the guy admits its bullshit, merely a ‘blogger’s’ rumor? Guess what I heard fellas?

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Barack Hussein Obama II

Barack Obama: All hat and no cattle since 1997!

ISRAEL DEARLY LOVES AMERICA AND DREADS OBAMA
Israel dearly loves America like a parasitic blood sucking leech loves a barefoot boy. Obama, by refusing to commit himself to treason on behalf of Israel, wonderfully reveals himself to be an American patriot, and a mortal threat to Israel’s parasitic relationship with its America host.

sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle,

The document had heretofore not been published.  The issue is now settled (assuming Kos isn’t doing a Mary Mapes/Dan Rather in reverse, which is by no means certain).

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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

and a mortal threat to Israel’s parasitic relationship with its America host.

uh-oh!  Looks like we have an antisemite here people!

A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.