we fight to defend a diverse population.
if it was all right wingers it would be boring and, more than likely, europe and the rest of the globe would’ve stomped us out by now..
god bless the kooks - including hanoi jane. what would you guys do, really, if you had no commies or kooks to bitch about?
I don’t think liberals root for the enemy so much as they root for the President’s policies to fail so that they can take advantage politically.
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if it was all right wingers it would be boring and, more than likely, europe and the rest of the globe would’ve stomped us out by now..
I disagree. “Right Wingers” is an insult-term that Leftists use to describe Americans. Leftists can only hiss and spit because Americans have fought wars to secure our lives, liberty and way of life.
Leftists are, at best, parasites and dead weight to America. They are constantly working to undermine the US and her allies (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Rhodesia, South and Southwest Africa, Iran and Nicaragua—all abandoned by Demoncratic congresses and essentially fed to communist wolves).
I am of the firm conviction that America—as Rob has so clearly defined her - would be far better off without all US-based Leftists (maybe would could arrange a swap with Canada or something).
As far as the rest of the globe is concerned, it has been Americans that have been stomping the rest of the Globe, while smelly, useless, drug-addled Leftist hippies have been free-riding, rather than contributing to the effort.
Was I a member of the Ohio NG at Kent State? No, but guess which one I would’ve been, had I been there?
Heh heh.
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I don’t think liberals root for the enemy so much as they root for the President’s policies to fail so that they can take advantage politically.
All the more reason for the President to be upfront with us and pursue sound policy. He just keeps shooting himself in the foot - increasing spending , et al. Not that its that big of a deal since the demos only have negative stances. They can offer practically nothing positive about any issue except generalizations about more ideal states of affairs - they have no viable plans by which to pursue their ideals. I see no huge difference between the demos and Bush other than Bush swats at what he wants by implimenting flawed policy. Hard to tell which one is worse.
Move-Zig
Are not left wingers americans? Y’all use the inverse of ‘right wingers’ in an analogous manner. Don’t come off so superior. All the fat, lazy Republicans I know who bitch about welfare and sit around on some BS disability money is enough to choke a few ponies. Y’all want to try the lefties as traitors and they want to try all of you Nuremburg-style. I think reality hovers somewhere in the middle.
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Her apology is meaningless in my opinion.
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Was I a member of the Ohio NG at Kent State? No, but guess which one I would’ve been, had I been there?
Look now. It ain’t my generation that was out blowing up banks and shit. That was all the anti-thesis of the uptight, anti-commie insecurtity all you buzzcut oldschool right-wing nutjobs were on back in the 60s and 70s. Keep whipping that extremist horse and see how many more, even nuttier leftists you polarize and motovate in the coming years.
Also - my father was at Kent State. Not as a protester or a NG… as a student. He was nearly killed - inside a classroom. Its not a laughing matter, cunt.
That was all the anti-thesis of the uptight, anti-commie insecurtity all you buzzcut oldschool right-wing nutjobs were on back in the 60s and 70s. Keep whipping that extremist horse and see how many more, even nuttier leftists you polarize and motovate in the coming years.
Maybe if these Leftwingers had some main stream views other than socialism and redistribution of wealth and anti Americanism views some of us right wing nut jobs as you call us would back off.
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Are not left wingers americans?
They are not.
The first duty of any citizen is to pledge allegiance to their country. Time and time again, Leftists have shown their contempt for America.
Their entire effort is directed at undermining our Constitution at every turn. There is not one aspect of the Bill of Rights that has not been damaged due to Leftist efforts over time (except perhaps for the for Third Amendment).
Kerry, Clinton, Shumer, Steinem, Feinstein, Franks, et al despise America. They have consitently striven to cut our military, emasculate our intelligence efforts, gut the Second Amendment, silence the First Amendment through PC speech codes,
eviscerate the search and seizure protections under the guise of environmental protection… the list goes on.
They have consistently sided with the enemy in time of war (both hot and Cold), Hanoi Jane, the MSM and a demoncratic Congress during Vietnam, Ted Kennedy, Jess Jackson, the MSM and a demoncratic Congress during Angola and Nicaruaga, and lo and behold, Hanoi Jane, the MSM and a Demoncratic Congress now for Iraq and Afghanistan. Quel surprise!
Through their words and actions they renounced their US citizenship long ago. They are indeed, traitors in every sense of the word.
“A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.”
–Marcus Tullius Cicero, Roman Orator - 106-43 B.C.
...for great justice
if it was all right wingers it would be boring and, more than likely, europe and the rest of the globe would’ve stomped us out by now.
This is a profoundly ignorant statement. It is also self-contradictory. The lefties criticize the real Americans for wanting to fight terrorism, so we are at fault for the war, but now Sparkie says that we would allow Europe and “the rest of the globe” to defeat us by now. The lefties are the ones who want to hand the US over to the UN, last time I checked.
In fact, if we were all real Americans, the terrorists would be defeated by now, and we would be a lot wealthier and more powerful.
"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.
“The sting of any rebuke is the truth”
-- Benjamin Franklin
I guess I hit a nerve with:
smelly, useless, drug-addled Leftist hippies
-- LMAO!!
Put down the joint, get a haircut, take a bath and check out the want ads for a job.
Take that, Hippie.
...for great justice
Move:
Thanks for proving that you are a hate-filled blowhard. Now I can just ignore all your posts, since I do not argue with fanatics.
Maybe if these Leftwingers had some main stream views other than socialism and redistribution of wealth and anti Americanism views some of us right wing nut jobs as you call us would back off.
Just because a view does not align with your’s perfectly doesn’t mean its anti-American. Socialism is not anti-American. We have a socialist Senator. Is Vermont not part of America still? People without tolerance for variety of thought are the traitors - America was made and perserveres by and for this very diversity. They are indisputably anti-American. Variety of thought is what gives this country its diversity and strength. Like it or not. The hippies are just as intolerant as you. No different.
Put down the joint, get a haircut, take a bath and check out the want ads for a job.
Take that, Hippie.
Move,
Damn!!! A Cicero quote! I’m certainly impressed. Beat’s the hell out any Cindy Sheehan drivel, or the gurgle of a Kennedy coming up for air. Bravo!
“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”
Not all liberals are American. Think about it for a moment. What does promoting envy and greed amongst fellow Americans accomplish? Favoring those who look at other’s excellence as their own inferiority serves no common or individual good. Telling the same, they have a right to others earnings—how the hell is that unifying? At the very least it sets one American against the other. No American is served by such favoritism and there is nothing American about doing so.
“Wrath is cruel, and anger is outrageous; but who is able to stand before envy?”
Now I can just ignore all your posts, since I do not argue with fanatics.
MZ,
I know how this must make you feel—being ignored by Don. All I can say is… LUCKY!
Socialism is not anti-American.
Sparkie,
It most certainly is. It is the opposite of liberty. It violates private property rights. It embraces redistribution as social justice. It is everything America wasn’t intended to be.
America was intended to be a democracy. You are off a bit there HG.
HZ,
Yep, if I could link sound files, I would’ve posted the one by Jimma Carter feeling hurt—not so much.
Actually, these ‘smelly, useless, hippies’ do have a vital function on this push (I mean thread). I mean, if all us buzzcutted, neanderthal, unevolved ‘Mericans were alone here, there’d be nobody to say stupid things and for us to write about. It’s like that on the Ann Coulter blog. It’s boring as hell.
These Lefties are hilarious. Even if we did swap populations with Canada, we should keep at least one in each local zoo, to remind us that Homo Imbecilius does exist.
But unlike them, with their government cheese and mom’s credit cards, I need to get back to work.
I’ll check in later.
...for great justice
America was intended to be a democracy. You are off a bit there HG.
[sigh]
Sparkie, Sparkie, Sparkie.. you ignorant slut.
You need to quit learning politics from Che posters.
At the close of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on September 18, 1787, a Mrs. Powel anxiously awaited the results, and as Benjamin Franklin emerged from the long task now finished, asked him directly: “Well Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?” ”A republic if you can keep it” responded Franklin.
“Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.”
-- John Adams, letter to John Taylor, April 15, 1814
—Article IV, Section 4, U.S. ConstitutionSection 4.
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
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America was intended to be a democracy.
Sparkie,
Really??? I kinda thought it was meant to be a republic, particularly given the federal government’s structure as set forth in the Constitution, and the arguments made in favor of that form of organization by the Founding Fathers in the Federalist Papers.
“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”
Sparkie,
There is a big difference between a democratic republic and a socialist democracy. I don’t know who taught you socialism is consistent with American individualism, but they were way, way off.
The point that redistribution of other’s earnings to those that see excellence as their own inferiority is injustice has been made numerous times on this site. I have yet to hear one liberal defend the such deviency as justice. Coddling and favoring the envious for their loyalty is detestable and self-serving. It serves no other purpose but to pit American against American, enslaving the one and despising the other for the wisdom to avoid such manipulation.
What’s more American than executing our political opponents?
Whatever,
Whatever.
We have a socialist Senator. Is Vermont not part of America still? People without tolerance for variety of thought are the traitors - America was made and perserveres by and for this very diversity?
That is not the point that man is joke and a horrible leader, the people of Vermont should be ashamed for electing him to office.
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Ding, Ding, Ding… HG gets it.
Sparkie,
It most certainly is. It is the opposite of liberty. It violates private property rights. It embraces redistribution as social justice. It is everything America wasn’t intended to be.
Socialism/Liberalism is a disease. I thought we had learned our lesson with Clinton, during the 1990’s. After the Clintonistas got done with destroying our countries moral
fiber.
We had this national decline of morality, besides that we had a whole generation of people standing by the road with their hands out asking what is the government going to do for me, instead of asking what you can do for your country. We also had a bunch of youth that thought they were entitled to do what ever they want and the truth didn’t matter.
If we elect Hillary, Barrack Hussein Obama et al, we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes of the 1990’s. Of course the left is wringing their hands at the prospect of stealing the wealth of our Fortune 100 companies all for the good of the state.
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We have a socialist Senator. Is Vermont not part of America still? People without tolerance for variety of thought are the traitors - America was made and perserveres by and for this very diversity?
What made and continues to make America great is not diversity for diversity’s sake. Rather it is the individualism found within diversity that makes for great Americans.
Mike Zulu! Been a damn long time since I heard the term push used. Welcome to the fray, I have not had the opportunity to say howdy. HOWDY! Glad to have you in. There are mines over there and mines over there. And watch those monkeys. They bite! As you have already seen in a couple of threads here.
sparklebaby, let me disabuse you of an illusion or 2. We are a Representative Republic. I am not “rightwing”. I am an American. Period. As such I have hair to the center of my back, a rather long soupstrainer on my upper lip, a Miller High Life sitting next my computer, and enjoy a bowl of excellent Pennsyltucky Home Choke. And yes, I will shoulder rifle and ruck and LRRP with the best of them at the drop of a hat. Or roach.
Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem
right, 2H, no greater love than to lay down ones life for their country. Don’t know any lefties that would sign up for that.
You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.
I think Sen. Webb’s son has signed up for that.
Oh and so did Sen. Webb. And Cheney, the warmonger, hmm.... not so much!
I don’t know who taught you socialism is consistent with American individualism, but they were way, way off.
American Individualism. Is not an american individual entitled to believe in socialism or socialist views, however fleeting or constant those beliefs be? Furthermore, are not a group of americans allowed to act in the same manner if they so choose? Say, be Christians (something almost as thoroughly limiting in individualism as socialism)?
Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”
Is not an american individual entitled to believe in socialism or socialist views, however fleeting or constant those beliefs be? You may believe in anything you want; but you are not entitled to use any means(like the courts) to force those beliefs on anyone who does not believe them.
Furthermore, are not a group of americans allowed to act in the same manner if they so choose? Say, be Christians (something almost as thoroughly
limiting in individualism as socialism)?Your lumping together of all Christians is completely in error. Protestant Christianity is founded on individual belief and action; the freedom of association does not equate to the totalitarian collectivist beliefs of socialism. You couldn’t be more wrong about Christianity.
P: It is the terrorists who are the warmongers; sorry you don’t know that. Just another good reason not to trust your kind to govern.
"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.
...a socialist democracy.
There is no such thing; it is a verbal delusion, made by putting words together to form something that has no reality.
"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.
Sparkie: After reviewing your comments on this thread, and taking into consideration our many other “conversations”, I have a recommendation for you: Please don’t use words whose meanings you don’t understand. I realize that will be extremely limiting for you, but it might save you a lot of embarrassment.
"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.
B1, 2H9, HG, Dudes! - Bang on fellas!
one of my favorites of all time.“Almighty, Almighty, this is PBR Streetgang”
Socialism. It is not home-grown. It is a murderous foreign disease, totally incompatible with freedom.
It is, in the great words of Winston Churchill,
a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.
It has caused the slaughter of 100 to 270 million souls in this century alone.
From being an operator, over to the S-2, over to CI, then the State Department, then the Pentagon, I’ve heard and seen socialists and commies in action. For all the death and misery they have caused with their lies, they have earned my undying contempt. I just don’t think they’re cute or charming anymore. They suffer from incurable stupidity and that I find unforgiveable.
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Is not an american individual entitled to believe in socialism or socialist views, however fleeting or constant those beliefs be?
Sparkie,
Sure, but he can’t force everyone to accept socialism.
Furthermore, are not a group of americans allowed to act in the same manner if they so choose? Say, be Christians (something almost as thoroughly limiting in individualism as socialism)?
Again, sure they can as long it doesn’t require the rest of us to do so. It is good to see you acknowledge the restricting nature of socialism. Christianity is not a form of government and therefore ought not be compared to socialism. Personally, I find Christianity perfectly consistent with liberty.
I think Sen. Webb’s son has signed up for that.
Why would you assume that Sen. Webb’s son agrees with him, politically?
And there’s a reason why military service isn’t a prerequisite for political office in this country, Puzzle. Remember when you libs were all defending Clinton’s lack of military service (and yes, the Republicans at the time were being as dumb as you are being now with all that)?
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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I think Sen. Webb’s son has signed up for that.
how about you, puz? didn’t think so…
You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.
MZ, I especially liked the 2001 release with the cut footage, the story was chopped oddly in the original.
I, too, am familiar with the real world results of socialism/Marxism. I helped tag&bag 123 examples of Daniel Ortega’s version in ‘83. And damn near got killed by Uganda’s brand in ‘87. sparkle is a bit confused, it is the new math, makes them crazy.
Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem
zig, greetings to you too.
You know when I was young insane people like Jane and the rest of the anti-war group would have been put into places where they could not hurt themselves or others. In todays world they are celebrities. Go figure..
You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.
I thought Sparkie was a man?
Aside from the fact that I absolutely detest Jane Fonda, I also detest that the media bestows some kind of cause-celeb status on her just because the leftists have dusted her off to join their protests.
Why does this person have ANY credibility?
Why does she think that anyone outside of the leftist circles gives a fat rat’s ass what she has to say? She should have been tried for treason thirty years ago.
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How true, how true!…
“I would like to say something, not just to Vietnam veterans in New England, but to men who were in Vietnam, who I hurt, or whose pain I caused to deepen because of things that I said or did,” she began. “I was trying to help end the killing and the war, but there were times when I was thoughtless and careless about it and I’m . . . very sorry that I hurt them. And I want to apologize to them and their families.”
Baloney!!!! How does consorting with the enemy help end the killing?
If she only had a brain… Celebrity does not a smart person make. I just don’t get how if you star in a movie or on televison you become an automatic authority on world politics.
Carol, No truer words were ever spoken!…
Baloney!!!! How does consorting with the enemy help end the killing?
If she only had a brain… Celebrity does not a smart person make. I just don’t get how if you star in a movie or on televison you become an automatic authority on world politics.
If anything the woman comitted a crime of treason and is a disgrace. If anything Jane should have been barred from re-entering the USA. The woman is a miserable disgrace.
Jane isn’t even that good of an actress. These celebrities are moron for the most part have you guys listened to Sean Penn the man is a fricken moron. Susan Saranda is real doesy too.
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Jane isn’t even that good of an actress. These celebrities are moron for the most part have you guys listened to Sean Penn the man is a fricken moron. Susan Saranda is real doesy too.
My husband is a Viet Nam vet. Holder of a silver star, three bronze stars and two purple hearts. Thank God he came out alive. No thanks to the likes of Hanoi Jane.
Jane and Susan need to stick to the Botox clinics. Jane is a pathetic actress. At one time I liked Susan but then she opened her mouth. Sean Penn looks the part of a fricken moron. Worse when he opens his mouth.
Carol,
Please convey my thanks to your husband for his military service. Clearly he is a hero, although I suspect he would be loathe to acknowledge the fact.
“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”
Carol, I am so thankful he came back too! What would we have ever done without Rob??? ...
Carol,
Please convey my thanks to your husband for his military service. Clearly he is a hero, although I suspect he would be loathe to acknowledge the fact.
Bat One on February 1, 2007 at 02:28 pm
You’re absolutely right. His mother and I got up one morning and read about the silver star in the newspaper. He’s a real live hero. Went from the army to law enforcement. He’s had a remarkable career. I should write a book about him.
Carol, I am so thankful he came back too! What would we have ever done without Rob??? ...
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I think we sometimes forget about the sacrifices the viet nam vets made. It seems we focus on the ass hole protesters like Jane Fonda more thant he soldiers that were fighting over seas protecting freedom and fighting for our way of life. Seems these politicans are doing the same thing today.
The Hollywood left hasn’t a clue, thank god Tim Robbins, Susan Seranda, Sean Pean aren’t making foriegn policy.
I question wether some Americans even listen to what these clowns have to say, they have no idea whats going on.
Anyone think its funny that Cindy Sheehan was filmed speaking at this rally. Hum, maybe it has something to do with her being an idiot. I was surprised when Hanoi Jane was wheeled out especially how negative veterans groups view her.
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Carol mentioned her husbands records in a previous private conversation. Because it was private I didn’t say anything here about it, although I wanted to.
Since she brought it up I’d like to say that I greatly respect Rob’s father’s service and what he’s done.
What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity? I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.
Carol said: You’re absolutely right. His mother and I got up one morning and read about the silver star in the newspaper. He’s a real live hero. Went from the army to law enforcement. He’s had a remarkable career. I should write a book about him.
Carol that is nice story. Definately a true American Hero.
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Let’s see. Jane Fonda’s career in film started of with Barbarella and ended up in a thoroughly forgettable performance opposite two REAL actors, her father and Ms. Katherine Hepburn, in On Golden Pond.
Susan Sarandon’s legacy consists of a blithe bimbo with great boobs in Rocky Horror Picture Show and Annie Savoy ("This world was never meant for those of us cursed with self-awareness.") in Bull Durham.
The problem with these people is that they confuse notoriety with knowledge and celebrity with significance. Their entire life’s work consists of make believe and fiction, yet they think that what they have to say about reality is somehow pertinent. They are not real people, having spent their adult lives doing and saying what others tell them to, which apparently leads them to believe that they are qualified to tell the rest of us how we should conduct ourselves. They are, by any reasonable measure, comedians. And not very good at that either.
“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”
Thank you both for having Rob! I don’t know what I would do without him either. It is obvious where he gets his smarts from. (You & his Dad) He is a brat! BUT such a sweet brat…
He’s a real live hero. Went from the army to law enforcement. He’s had a remarkable career. I should write a book about him.
Carol,
While I would certainly encourage you to write the book, I would not wish to impose on your husband’s personal privacy.
My wife stopped trying to get me to talk about Vietnam years ago. Yet while we resist sharing with our dearest loved ones, we will gladly open up to a perfect stranger if we know him to be a fellow Vietnam vet. Very peculiar.
“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”
Let’s see. Jane Fonda’s career in film started of with Barbarella and ended up in a thoroughly forgettable performance opposite two REAL actors, her father and Ms. Katherine Hepburn, in On Golden Pond.
Susan Sarandon’s legacy consists of a blithe bimbo with great boobs in Rocky Horror Picture Show and Annie Savoy ("This world was never meant for those of us cursed with self-awareness.") in Bull Durham.
The only redeeming quality of either woman is that they have nice racks or are that they are relatively attractive. Susan really irked me in her movie her dead man walking. I mean really we are supposed to feel sorry for a cold blood killer that is rightfully being sent to the death chamber to pay for his crime against humanity. But they movie totally lost focus and made the issue about the poor criminal. Funny thing is that movie totally reflects her warped views of the world.
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Goon!
I’m assuming you meant sometime in far distant past when dinosaurs ruled when you said:
The only redeeming quality of either woman is that they have nice racks or are that they are relatively attractive.
If not then may I respectfully recommend either glasses or corrective surgery? Yeesh.
By the way, I posted some thought of my own about this creature. Check out my rant above.
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I was talking about the past, they aren’t as nice now.
I am not going to get lasic surgury anytime soon. 
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