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Wednesday, January 16, 2008

Hugh Hewitt’s Romney Spinmeister goes nuts

When he says that most evangelicals voted for Romney in Michigan he’s completely out of whack. I read this blog. I see the constant hammering with this phrase, “I’m a Christian but............” “Or, I believe the Bible BUT..................” Sorry guys and gals, there is no BUT. God is very amused by our Buffet line Christianity.

Those self identified Romney voters were NOT evangelicals. They were the Christian buts or Bible Buts. CINO. Christian in name only.

I don’t care. If you want to claw your way to hell go ahead. Either you are called or not. (I’m sorta a Lutheran Calvinist).

This Michigan Primary is VERY GOOD news for Mick Huckabee, Bad news for McCain and Thompson. Gulliani and Romney will live to fight another day.

Everyone worries about the black vote. The black voting public is much smaller than the evangelical voting public. Neither is monolithic.

Super Tuesday will be a 3 man race. Romney, Gulliani and Huck. OR, if Gulliani does badly in Florida, I mean really badly after Huck wins SC maybe it will be Romney and Huck. Now, let’s see where Hugh Hewitt’s Evangelical support for Romney is then.

This morning the Reuters/Zogby poll came out reflecting the zeitgeist in South Carolina. I know this is only Wednesday, but we have 3 days. Between now and Saturday there will be changes. McCain's loss. Impact. Huck's standard. Romney's win. Thompson and the rest way back in the pack. What has to happen for Huck to lose. Romney will pick some up. Old Mo. That will not come from Huck. McCain and Romney are trading voters. People are looking at the horses in the pack and trying to pick a winner they want to win. Who looks like that man? Bad news for McCain and Thompson.






This is getting interesting.

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Gene,

Romney managed a 9 point win in the state where he has the best organization and where he has good name recognition.  He also spent a ton of money.  Net result?  It’s still a wide open primary.


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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on January 16, 2008 at 09:11 am

God is very amused by our Buffet line Christianity.

Those self identified Romney voters were NOT evangelicals.  They were the Christian buts or Bible Buts.  CINO.  Christian in name only.

Gene,

There is so much wrong… dreadfully wrong… with this post as to be almost tragic!

Your suggestion that those who voted for Romney yesterday are “Christians in name only” is as reprehensible in its arrogance and presumptuousness as anything that’s come from the mouth of Hillary Clinton or any of her apologists.

There are most certainly plenty of us who take our faith every bit as seriously as you do, yet have no need to have our devotion measured by our choice in political leaders.  By you or by anyone.

Furthermore, by your same simplistic rationale all females should be voting for Hillary, all Blacks for Mr. Obama, all Southern conservatives for Fred Thompson, and all veterans for John McCain, while policy prescriptions and party platforms, and detailed discussions of the candidates’ stand on issues would become pointless ephemera.

Last time I checked, this wasn’t a democracy… nor was it intended to be.  Your implied religious test is not only constitutionally impermissible, but far more worthy of an Iranian Mullah than any sort of voting age American.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on January 16, 2008 at 09:32 am

Bat

You didn’t grasp what I said.  Once more slowly.

The idea Hewitt propounds is that the “Evangelicals” voted for Romney over Huckabee is the issue. 

I’m postulating that the bar is set pretty low to be called an evangelical in that analysis.  Remember, 80+ percent of all people in the USA think they are going to heaven. 

WOW.  Delusion reigns.

I’m not deciding or litmus testing anyone.  I’m just offended that Hewitt lumps anyone who can say the word Christian over the bar and make the judgment he did.

You are right about one thing. Evangelicals are not monolithic.  But we aren’t going overwhelmingly for Romney either.  Hewitt is just wrong.

That is my argument.

The other stuff, CINO?  Yep.  Pet peave of mine.  Even on this blog I see this all the time.  I’m a Christian but.  But what?  Read some of the comments, I want to pretend I’m a Christian and live in total rebellion to what the Word of God CLEARLY says.  OK. Go ahead. Live in rebellion.  Just tell yourself the truth.

I don’t see that anywhere in my Bible.  You either is or you ain’t.  Charles Finney, the great evangelist NEVER preached to people outside the church.  He preached only to people who claimed to be Christian.  CINO.  His thesis was that most of the people occupying pews are headed for Hell.  Church was a warehouse for the Damned.  I agree with him.

His theology said that unless we get people who pretend to be Christian and aren’t to come to Jesus, the rest doesn’t matter.  It still doesn’t.

No compromise.  (Keith Green)

That is my objection to the posturing Hewitt does.


[b]Old Tigers are more dangerous when they believe this could be their last hunt.

From , “The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen”
Old tigers, sensing the end,
they’re at their most fierce. 
And they go down fighting.

Gene on January 16, 2008 at 09:55 am

Gene,

Your implication, intended or not, is STILL that a true Christian would not have voted for Romney.  You are wrong, and presumptuously so, on both counts.

I stand by my comment.  I recall nothing in my reading of the New Testament that suggests that Christians are obliged to choose only other Christians as their secular leaders.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on January 16, 2008 at 10:27 am
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Gene,

Citing Finney does nothing for your pathetic argument.  I agree with Bat, you’re way out of line on this one.

This is a taste of what we can and do expect from evangelicals like yourself and Huckabee isn’t even the Republican candidate yet, much less the President.
You are confirming much of the criticism and concern many have expressed about a Huckabee Presidency.

HG on January 16, 2008 at 10:47 am

Christians are obliged to choose only other Christians as their secular leaders.

Where did I SAY THIS??

It’s unsanitary to put words in someone else’s mouth.

Christians can vote for whomever they want, including Romney. 

Just don’t lump us all together and make some inane claim.  It’s like saying bald people didn’t vote for Romney based on his full head of hair.

Hewitt created an equation that just isn’t true. 

Why is this SOOOOO hard to grasp?


[b]Old Tigers are more dangerous when they believe this could be their last hunt.

From , “The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen”
Old tigers, sensing the end,
they’re at their most fierce. 
And they go down fighting.

Gene on January 16, 2008 at 10:48 am

The idea Hewitt propounds is that the “Evangelicals” voted for Romney over Huckabee is the issue. 

I’m postulating that the bar is set pretty low to be called an evangelical in that analysis.  Remember, 80+ percent of all people in the USA think they are going to heaven.

Justin B. on January 16, 2008 at 01:29 pm
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