Say Anything Blog

I’ll say what I want.

And you’ll get the consequences thereof.

As far as your bullshit about what’s important to me, it’s the truth; I’ll always stand up for the truth.

I leave you to your denial.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

I find it interesting that you end up posing as the victim, when it was you who tried to tell me how to express myself on this blog.  I doubt that you appreciate the irony.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

I repeat: I have no objection to criticism, but unsolicited advice is a sign of hostility.

I welcome criticism, especially if it’s fact or logic-based; advice is a sneaky way of criticizing someone without giving any relevant facts or logic; it is usually based on some attitude of superiority or is cloaked in solicitude.  Because it doesn’t deal directly with the subject at hand, it is not a basis for debate or discussion.

robert108 on May 9, 2008 at 07:51 pm

Some advise for you R108. Heed your own advise.(The above describes you to the tee! How ironic)
If I were you I would apoligise to pparets. You are being rude and hostile for no apparent reason. Take some Midol, you will propably feel better. Never mind! Midol does not alleviate intelectual cramps. Only menstrual. My bad. For your condition Haldol is appropriate.

I repeat: I have no objection to criticism, but unsolicited advice is a sign of hostility.

I welcome criticism, especially if it’s fact or logic-based; advice is a sneaky way of criticizing someone without giving any relevant facts or logic; it is usually based on some attitude of superiority or is cloaked in solicitude.  Because it doesn’t deal directly with the subject at hand, it is not a basis for debate or discussion.

robert108 on May 9, 2008 at 07:51 pm

Some advise for you R108. Heed your own advise.(The above describes you to the tee! How ironic)
If I were you I would apoligise to pparets. You are being rude and hostile for no apparent reason. Take some Midol, you will propably feel better. Never mind! Midol does not alleviate intelectual cramps. Only menstrual. My bad. For your condition Haldol is appropriate.

I repeat: I have no objection to criticism, but unsolicited advice is a sign of hostility.

I welcome criticism, especially if it’s fact or logic-based; advice is a sneaky way of criticizing someone without giving any relevant facts or logic; it is usually based on some attitude of superiority or is cloaked in solicitude.  Because it doesn’t deal directly with the subject at hand, it is not a basis for debate or discussion.

robert108 on May 9, 2008 at 07:51 pm

Some advise for you R108. Heed your own advise.(The above describes you to the tee! How ironic)
If I were you I would apoligise to pparets. You are being rude and hostile for no apparent reason. Take some Midol, you will propably feel better. Never mind! Midol does not alleviate intelectual cramps. Only menstrual. My bad. For your condition Haldol is appropriate.

I defer to your obvious expertise on Midol.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

ellinas:  Shame on you!  r108 is never, ever wrong.
He and he alone knows the truth, understands all others and is so, so very serious. He has to repeat stuff to lesser minds, deals only in facts and is highly allergic to advice on any kind.

He can even change the whole meaning of a statement, such as

Like you, I’ll say what I want.

which he morphed into

I’ll say what I want.

That way, r108 can always have it his way.

ellinas.... go to your room… right now!

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT TWO THINGS: WINNING THE WAR ON TERRORISM AND SAVING THE SUPREME COURT.

That way, r108 can always have it his way.

Yes, you’re really the victim here; poor baby!  In fact, you tried to push your ideas on me, and I told you to peddle your papers elsewhere.  Instead of realizing your gaffe, you persisted in denying you did what you did, and finally you have twisted things around to your posing as a victim.  Pathetic.
Your hostility becomes more and more obvious, the more you spew your lies.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

BTW, I didn’t “morph” anything; you’re not like me at all, despite your claim; I have never advised you on how to write your comments.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

Dam’n parets. I thought I was the only one that is always right! Thanks bud, You opened my eyes.
On the serious side though,this man has a problem.
He believes himself to be infallable. Many a man thought that way. And those people caused a lot of harm to mankind. What a shame. He is a brilliant writer but intelectually he is a midget.

IF more people in our country were as steadfast and true to conservative principals as Robert108 we would all be better off for it.

Zsa Zsa:  Robert108’s conservative credentials - particularly on economics - are admirable and impeccable.

Some of ellina’s view - just above your - is sadly true, and shared by more than a few at SAB.

“A man who thinks he is brilliant can be dangerous; a man who is brilliant is a gift; a man who knows he is brilliant is just a pain.”

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT TWO THINGS: WINNING THE WAR ON TERRORISM AND SAVING THE SUPREME COURT.

Zsa Zsa. R108’s problem is not sreadfastness and trueness to conservative principals. The man is a control freak. Surely you’d agree that anyone from time to time can be and is wrong. Your husband does not accept that he can be mistaken on occasion. That is the problem. He is not the final authority on anything. Yet he relishes portraying himself as such.
And woe to the person that dares point out that he may be wrong. I believe that your husband should to eat some humble pie, and ask for the forgiveness of those he unfairly called liers for simply expressing their opinions, and of the ones he so viciously attacked because they dared have a point of view that differed from his.

ellinas: Your observations on r108 are remarkably accurate, but I think it was unkind and unfair to point out the relationship between him and Zsa Zsa.

In so doing, you imply - probably without meaning to - that her thoughts are not independently hers, and that somehow, she is merely an extension of her husband. On her own merits, Zsa Zsa writes good stuff.

And so do you!

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT TWO THINGS: WINNING THE WAR ON TERRORISM AND SAVING THE SUPREME COURT.

Once again, Elianus has no clue. “My Husband”? Huh?
Robert108 and I have disagreed many times. AND I never said he was infallible. I don’t believe he thinks that he is infallible either. I do believe we need more individuals with as much backbone as Robert108 in leadership positions. I find him extremely admirable. (Even when I don’t necessarily agree with him.) The Republican party needs a good dose of spine stiffener!

Zsa Zsa:

The Republican Party needs a good dose of spine stiffener!

Sadly… how true!!  And I think the GOP is going to get it’s butt handed to it next November.

Then, all the good and true conservative folks at SAB and in the party will need to start rebuilding what we once had.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT TWO THINGS: WINNING THE WAR ON TERRORISM AND SAVING THE SUPREME COURT.

pparets, Just so you know, Robert108 is not my husband. Elianus must be off her or his psychosis medication.

Zsa Zsa:  Thanks for the information.  And, like I said, you write good stuff!

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT TWO THINGS: WINNING THE WAR ON TERRORISM AND SAVING THE SUPREME COURT.

I am flattered. Thank you! You write great stuff too.  God bless our country so much!

My apoligies to Zsa Zsa. Happy mothers day.
Where R108 shines as a person with admirable conservative values with which (values) I often dissagree he lacks in humanity, humility and compassion.
Trust me on this: He would be a terrible leader.

ellinas: 

Trust me on this: He would be a terrible leader.

Yup.  Sad, but true.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT TWO THINGS: WINNING THE WAR ON TERRORISM AND SAVING THE SUPREME COURT.

Then, all the good and true conservative folks at SAB and in the party will need to start rebuilding what we once had.

When did the party start to go downhill?  When they abandoned their conservative principles.  They ran on more goodies for the masses rather than doing the right thing. 

Funny observation, but do ANY of these goodies for the masses do anything for the regular guy?

The Debate is over!  Global Whining has been confirmed.

Whistler:

When did the party start to go downhill? When they abandoned their principles.

If, by ‘party’, you mean the voters - like you and me - I respectfully disagree.

It has been those we put in office - the elected leaders - who betrayed our principles. Whether presidents, congressmen, state legislators, judges, governors or local officials, they have discovered that hand-outs win votes.

Few are willing to take tough, unpopular stands.

We have lots of work to do down the road.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT TWO THINGS: WINNING THE WAR ON TERRORISM AND SAVING THE SUPREME COURT.

We have lots of work to do down the road.

First, you’re gonna have to built a road.

The promise of gop was always smoke and mirrors.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

Then, all the good and true conservative folks at SAB and in the party will need to start rebuilding what we once had.

Some of us never stopped.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

rbb:  My, Aren’t we clever this morning.
...then which shall it be?  The Yellow Brick One?  The Long and Winding One?  The high one? The low one?

..... “On the road again...” W. Nelson

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT TWO THINGS: WINNING THE WAR ON TERRORISM AND SAVING THE SUPREME COURT.

Some of us never stopped.

Maybe that’s how we got where we are today.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT TWO THINGS: WINNING THE WAR ON TERRORISM AND SAVING THE SUPREME COURT.

Now the roving gambler he was very bored
Trying to create a next world war
He found a promoter who nearly fell off the floor
He said i never engaged in this kind of thing before
But yes, i think it can be very easily done
Well just put some bleachers out in the sun
And have it on highway 61

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

highway 61

Bobby Dylan! Patron saint of aging hippies!

Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

pp: Nice snark and feeble attempts at character assassination from you, but here’s the inconvenient truth: It’s up to us(the voters) to elect the right officials; if we don’t do that, we are responsible for having bad leaders.  The way I see it, we have been compromising our conservative principles for a long time, settling for less, the “lesser of two evils”, and now we have the predictable results.
We have stood by while the lefties controlled the public dialogue, and have supported the propagandists in the MSM by watching them on TV, going to their propaganda movies and buying the products of those who bankroll them.
Contrary to what you say, we got to where we are today by compromising our conservative principles for political expediency.  You couldn’t be more wrong.

The Reagan Presidency and the Class of ‘94, with it’s “Contract for America” could have been templates, but instead we have allowed them to become one-time occurrences.
Playing the victim never gets us anywhere; that is a Dem strategy.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

Playing the victim never gets us anywhere; that is a Dem strategy.

The way I see it, we have been compromising our conservative principles for a long time, settling for less, the “lesser of two evils”, and now we have the predictable results.
We have stood by while the lefties controlled the public dialogue, and have supported the propagandists in the MSM by watching them on TV, going to their propaganda movies and buying the products of those who bankroll them.

Playing the victim never gets us anywhere; that is a Dem strategy.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

rbb: I always amazes me to see the depth of your ignorance.

Conservatives have shirked our responsibility, pointing that out is the opposite of victimhood.  We have the power; we just need to use it, relentlessly, to drive the anti-American lefties out of our govt.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

I think when we allowed ourselves to believe we were helping able bodied people to attach themselves for generations to Big Gov. Social assistance programs, that is where we went wrong. AND when we allowed Big Gov. to confiscate funds towards a defunct Social “Security” retirement program that can not guarantee it will even be there for all hard working Americans. Any time we encourage and allow another Big Gov. program to be passed it sets us up for failure. Assisting individuals who are in need is great. BUT generation after generation of families relying on public assistance there is something reeeeeeally wrong!

The promise of gop was always smoke and mirrors.

Like welfare programs that actually enriched the political class?  Like bridges to nowhere?  Like claiming that increasing taxes on the oil companies will lower the price of gasoline?  Like so-called global warming?  Like “The War on Poverty”?  Like “Social Security”?  Oh, wait!  Those are Dem “smoke and mirrors”.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

ZZ: Well said!  Such programs only accomplish redistribution of income from achievers to non-achievers, and weaken our system’s ability to regenerate itself.  It is time to end the parasitical behavior of big govt.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

robert108:

Oh wait! Those are Dem “smoke and mirrors”.

Haha!  Great post! 

With the possible exception of SS, you have listed some of the worst liberal scams in the history of government.

And let’s add LBJ’s “Great Society” crap.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT TWO THINGS: WINNING THE WAR ON TERRORISM AND SAVING THE SUPREME COURT.

What is so pathetic is the way all hard working Americans are Forced to contribute their own hard earned money towards SS. It should be renamed to Social Insecurity! IF Big Gov can not manage this program correctly? What makes these Socialist Senators who are running for President etc. believe they can “TAKE” control of the Oil business?  Jobs will be “TAKEN” away and our economy will go all to you know where IF the Libs get their way.

And let’s add LBJ’s “Great Society” crap.

We do have a 5,000 word limit here, so I couldn’t list all the Dem smoke and mirrors history, but I happen to consider SS near the top of the list.  Do you realize how much money has been sucked out of the private sector by this pyramid scheme, and how little it accomplishes?  The future obligations of SS are astounding.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

r108:  I can only speak from personal experience on SS.  My mom and dad were both hard-working people all their lives. They paid off their mortgage ahead of time. Owned one car all their lives. Never went on lavish vacations. Never owned a boat or other luxury. Paid for my college education without any loans and retired with a modest nest-egg and no debts. 

But the monthly SS checks [which they contributed to from their pay] was the difference between modest comfort and penury.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT TWO THINGS: WINNING THE WAR ON TERRORISM AND SAVING THE SUPREME COURT.

But the monthly SS checks [which they contributed to from their pay] was the difference between modest comfort and penury.

Had their money not been confiscated, and if they had invested it prudently, they would have had far more than “modest comfort”.  I say again, the SS pyramid scheme has diverted mass quantities of dollars from productive use to essentially supporting a gigantic bureaucracy and doling out only a pittance to those who contributed to it.  Check the numbers.  Find out how much your parents total contribution was, multiply it by a reasonable return(minus taxes) and see the difference.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

But the monthly SS checks [which they contributed to from their pay] was the difference between modest comfort and penury.

It was their money and had they invested it they would have been much better off.  Meanwhile people my age and younger are getting absolutely screwed over because of this Ponzi scheme. 

It’s a terrible program.  Perhaps if the government had actually treated it like a savings program rather than a piggy bank it wouldn’t be such a disaster.  Still I think private people watching over their own money would be better.

By the way in order for me to get anything for all of the money I’ve paid into Social Security I have to acquiesce screwing over my children and their generation.  What a crappy program.

The Debate is over!  Global Whining has been confirmed.

Exactly! Thank you, Robert108 for telling it like it is!

ZZ: You’re welcome!

I’m afraid that “shoot the messenger” is quite prevalent on SA, and thanks for not indulging in it.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

First, you’re gonna have to built a road.

The conservative road was built in 1776, with the Constitution as the road map.  It’s already there; we just have to follow it.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

All too often it is difficult for our, I want it and I want it now and I deserve it because I am ENTITLED Society to accept the truth!  Today so many people confuse Want with Need.  I would imagine there are so many able bodied and mind people on public assistance who have the latest technology in Television.AND I imagine they are sitting in front of it every day too busy watching it to look for a job.

The conservative road was built in 1776, with the Constitution

The members of the Constitutional Convention signed the United States Constitution on September 17, 1787 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The Constitutional Convention convened in response to dissatisfaction with the Articles of Confederation and the need for a strong centralized government. After four months of secret debate and many compromises, the proposed Constitution was submitted to the states for approval. Although the vote was close in some states, the Constitution was eventually ratified and the new Federal government came into existence in 1789. The Constitution established the U.S. government as it exists today.

Dear fish, thanks for the barrel.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

well, rbb:  The fact that the 13 new states needed a stronger federal government and thus drafted a constitution, is not an indicator of centralism.

What the framers wrote in the document is the real heart of the matter.  The constitution was carefully crafted as a limit on the expressed powers of the federal government.

That we have strayed so far from that intent is another matter.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT TWO THINGS: WINNING THE WAR ON TERRORISM AND SAVING THE SUPREME COURT.

The conservative road was built in 1776, with the Constitution as the road map

Albeit with RBB’s little dry comment of it being 1787, the point still stands.

RBB, where do YOU think the road is?

The fireworks of 1776 aren’t fading they’re being smothered by the Dems smoke and mirrors.

dirl126. 

Burning the flag is legal

But, free speech by anyone about exercising their right to vote is still legal.

/now, once a socialist/communist gets into power and packs the US court with more communists, then this radio, blog and even text messaging, phone conversations and perhaps whispering or thinking otherwise may cause one to be put into “reeducation schools”.  // That would be immoral and against what we fought for in 1776.  I say we because my forefathers died for my right to live in this free country.  I carried on my father’s patriotism.

Communism is evil

Under what statute is it illegal?

Under what statute is it illegal?

dirl126.  It has been a long time.  I will try and dig up a SC law.
I do not know of any laws on the books against burning crosses, but there are now some against burning tobacco.

Communism is evil

Burning the flag is legal it always has been.

I can say that because one of my forefathers fought against the anti American insurgency which began in South Carolina by the traitorous locals.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

The conservative road was built in 1776, with the Constitution as the road map

The conservative road was built in 1776, when we declared our independence from Great Britain; a few years later, the Constitution was ratified, thus codifying the founding principles of our country and establishing the road map for the unique road by which conservatives still travel.

Have a nice swim.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

dirl126 et al,
This is not exactly what I was looking for, but more recent:

Code of Ala. § 13A-6-28
§ 13A-6-28. Burning of cross or American flag
(a) A person commits the crime of cross or the American flag burning if he or she, with the intent to intimidate any person or group
of persons, burns, or causes to be burned, a cross or the American flag on the property of another, a highway, or other public place.
(b) As used in this section, “intent to intimidate” means the intent to place a person or a group of persons in fear of bodily harm.
(c) The crime of cross or the American flag burning is a Class C felony.
HISTORY: Acts 2003, No. 03-338.
NOTES: EFFECTIVE DATES. Acts 2003, No. 03-338, effective June 20, 2003

More later, especially SC including our State Flag.

Communism is evil

Hi Chief! That is interesting. Has anyone ever been arrested for flag burning?

Chief RZ, Thanks.  But don’t bother.  I’m just curious as to what sort of justification a court might find for making the burning of American/State flags illegal.

Zsa Zsa.  Yes.  I was there.  I can’t remember the technicality, but this one guy is our resident “hippy”.  Ran for SC rep.  lost.  Got permission to
squat on inhabitable land using an outhouse, lost in court about Presidential protected zones, etc.
Now I remember.  In the 1984 Bobbie Rossi case jury pool, he was present and tried to be excused on this felony.  His conviction was commuted by the Gov on time I think.

Communism is evil

dirl126, Here is a snip:  A 5-4 Supreme Court decision in 1989 saying flag-burning was a protected free speech right!  In that case, cross burning, house burning or any burning, including tree burnings should be legal.  Smoking also even though I do not smoke.  In my opinion, this is a case of liberal/communist thinking.

Communism is evil

Sorry RZ, but I’m going to have to disagree.

As much as it breaks my heart and even fills me with rage to see the flag burned, the first Amendment is sacred.

And under it, the expression of burning the American flag is legal.

Like claiming that increasing taxes on the oil companies will lower the price of gasoline? Like so-called global warming?  Like “The War on Poverty”?  Like “Social Security”?  Oh, wait!  Those are Dem “smoke and mirrors”.

robert108 on May 11, 2008 at 08:56 am

Are you stupid or what? How can you attribute such a asinine concept on sane people? You are being dishonest in your attribution of the above. People like you made it up because of their political leanings, and because it makes the other side look bad.

dirl126.  Thanks for your understanding of our American symbol.  One person should not make law in this country.  Now, if they had ruled on all burnings, then , maybe.... but maybe not.  The people need to vote on this issue.

Communism is evil

elinas the old sodd writes (of R108):

Are you stupid or what?

From where I sit it is elinas to appears to be wearing his ass on his shoulders.

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”

Your observation skills are beyond imagination!
That you saw my ass while sitting on my lap is trully miraculous. On our next close encounter I will allow you to felate me.

elinas the old sod becomes homographic as well as homophobic, what an interesting combination.  I’m sure the Freudians would find that revealing…

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”