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Friday, October 03, 2008

Palin clears bar, still falls short

For the most part I agree with this assessment of last nights debate. 

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14235.html

By JOHN F. HARRIS & MIKE ALLEN | 10/3/08 1:25 AM EDT

ST. LOUIS — Millions of Americans were watching Thursday night’s vice presidential debate, waiting for a demolition derby moment — another crash by GOP running mate Sarah Palin, another serving of raw material for the writers at “Saturday Night Live.”

By that standard, she got out alive, though there were white-knuckle moments along the way: questions that were answered with painfully obvious talking points that betrayed scant knowledge of the issue at hand and sometimes little relevance to the question that had been asked.

But recent days have given John McCain’s team little reason to suppose that not-that-bad is good enough. The Republican ticket’s sliding polls and narrowing electoral map gave it a different imperative in Palin’s showdown against Joe Biden. That was to alter the trajectory of the race in a way reminiscent of how Palin first enlivened Republicans — it seems long ago now — when she joined the ticket in late August.

Absent new polling, there is little reason to think she cleared that bar in St. Louis.

To the contrary, it is hard to count any objective measures by which Biden did not clearly win the encounter. She looked like she was trying to get people to take her seriously. He looked like he was running for vice president. His answers were more responsive to the questions, far more detailed and less rhetorical.

On at least 10 occasions, Palin gave answers that were nonspecific, completely generic, pivoted away from the question at hand, or simply ignored it: on global warming, an Iraq exit strategy, Iran and Pakistan, Iranian diplomacy, Israel-Palestine (and a follow-up), the nuclear trigger, interventionism, Cheney’s vice presidency and her own greatest weakness.

read the whole thing here

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14235.html

Comments

You have yet to produce any proof that Palin is stupid. When you going to do that, assfuck baby?


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2Hotel9 on October 3, 2008 at 05:27 pm

You have yet to produce any proof that Palin is stupid. When you going to do that, assfuck baby?

Hysterical emotional prick:
Please show me and anyone else who might be looking where I ever called Palin “stupid”. You cant, because I havent. You are showing your current state of mind though. Very interesting.
Your in a very bad mood tonight arent you. I can understand that. I hope you “feel” better now.

dragon poker on October 3, 2008 at 05:32 pm

Prove she is stupid. Do so now.


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2Hotel9 on October 3, 2008 at 05:35 pm

Sarah kicked Biden’s lying ass.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on October 3, 2008 at 05:35 pm

Hysterical blather wont change a thing you silly little sorry shits. I bet the suicide rate rises around here in a few weeks. What will you do.....

dragon poker on October 3, 2008 at 05:47 pm

And you still can not prove Palin is stupid. Why is that?


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2Hotel9 on October 3, 2008 at 05:52 pm

Simply prove she is as intelligent as Teddi Kennedy or Islam’s Savior Barrack. Thats all you have to do, that would clearly show she is stupid. And yet you can not. Because you are stupid. Or perhaps you are simply stupid.


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2Hotel9 on October 3, 2008 at 05:55 pm

So, in summation, prove she is stupid. Do so now.


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2Hotel9 on October 3, 2008 at 05:56 pm

Prove she is stupid. Do so now.

I can prove your stupid, hows that?
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/record_number_of_babies_murdered_in_fargo#c350062
you dont even know what thread your posting to. Your emotional and silly. You are so upset right now you cant even remember who your screaming at...hey, I have known alot of women like that...are you letting your inner female out for a walk tonight? Maybe you and bobert can have a nice lesbian romp while your both “feeling” so feminine.
By the way, your man-ginas are not really made for that kind of work, so please be hygenic and use a feminine spray before and after. It will save you both alot of embarassment later on. Gnight girliboyz

dragon poker on October 3, 2008 at 06:07 pm

Dragon Poker:  How did you miss this from Roger Simon, chief political writer for Politico?  Were your blinders in the way?

“You Betcha Sarah Palin Can Debate”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14234.html

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pparets on October 3, 2008 at 07:57 pm

Yeah, dp, if Sarah fell short how do you account for this praise from politico

Sarah Palin was supposed to fall off the stage at her vice presidential debate Thursday evening. Instead, she ended up dominating it.

She not only kept Joe Biden on the defensive for much of the debate, she not only repeatedly attacked Barack Obama, but she looked like she was enjoying herself while doing it.

Looks to me that she cleared by bar by a high margin.  Bitter bias does not become you.


You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

docdave on October 3, 2008 at 09:12 pm

And you still can not prove Palin is stupid. Most likely because you are stupid, or it could simply be that you are just stupid. Which could it be?


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2Hotel9 on October 4, 2008 at 04:48 am

The truth is, Sarah drew 17 million more viewers than The One.
Wear that.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on October 4, 2008 at 07:14 am

Dragon Poker:  How did you miss this from Roger Simon, chief political writer for Politico?  Were your blinders in the way?

yes I did, but even if I had seen it I would have agreed more with the evaluation I sited.

The truth is, Sarah drew 17 million more viewers than The One.
Wear that.

How do you wear a simplistic unspecific meaning like that? What counts is how many votes she gets for MC right? We will answer that question in a few weeks. Until then, I expect no actual debate to be possible here. After the election, there will be alot of cryin and a few insane rants, maybe a few who cant make it anymore, and then the whole silly thing will start all over again.
The real conservatives will be out in the cold, destroyed by their lack of resolve to own and control the once upon a time party of low taxes, fiscal responsibility, and personal freedom.

dragon poker on October 6, 2008 at 03:13 pm

poke, first, you have yet to prove Palin is stupid. And yet you have given multitudinous examples of how stupid you are. Gratz!!

As for your contention that socialism will dominate America, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


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2Hotel9 on October 6, 2008 at 03:53 pm

you have yet to prove Palin is stupid.

Prove where I stated she was stupid, then I will respond to your inane demand. It should be easy to find the quote you seem to be attributing to me. Please produce it dipshit. Until you can do that, you are just making yourself look stupid.

dragon poker on October 6, 2008 at 03:58 pm

As for your contention that socialism will dominate America, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

you might as well be honking a horn. That has about the same level of exchange of thoughts and views. However, I understand your a dipshit, so I will try to answer your weird non-statement quoted above:
While I know you are trying to get me to defend the liberals, I am not. I see what I see, thats it. Liberals have had a running expansion for the last 75 years. Even when your hero’s Ronald Reagan and GB 1 and 2 were in office the liberal agenda has advanced at a good clip. They have dominated for the most part. What makes you think that will change? The Dem congress? The Dem POTUS? Do you think they will suddenly turn conservative? Where are the conservatives with power? Where will they be next year when the dems have control of everything and the republicans, traditional home of conservatism, are dealing with an overwhelming majority? Even if the republicans do better than it appears they will, where are the conservative voices in the GOP? Palin the best you can do? Your she-hero will have the least powerful, least influential office in the executive branch. Do you think MC will allow her to do anything at all if he wins? Your living in a dream world. You are just wishing in one hand and shitting in the other.
If you dont get any of that, maybe you will understand this better: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I think your playing stupid, cuz no one is as dumb as you are pretending to be, execpt of course bobert.

dragon poker on October 6, 2008 at 04:20 pm

As for your contention that socialism will dominate America, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Sorry to disagree with you, but I believe to a large degree socialism is already dominant in Ametica; and under Obama and a fillibuster proof Democrat Party controlled Congress, I believe in the next 4-years we will make great strides in that direction to our regret and it will be mostly irreversible.

I didn’t read any other comments, I just noticed yours and I am only reply to the quote above.


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on October 6, 2008 at 04:30 pm

see neiman, for once we agree.

dragon poker on October 6, 2008 at 04:38 pm

Then grovel on your knees and submit to socialism. It is America, and I grant you that right. No thanks expected or needed.


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2Hotel9 on October 6, 2008 at 06:27 pm

Then grovel on your knees and submit to socialism. It is America, and I grant you that right. No thanks expected or needed.

Sorry again to disagree, but that seems to me to be nonsensical drivel. I am certainly not groveling or bowing or submitting to socialism, I fight against it every day; but I am not so ignorant as to not recognize reality when it bites me in the butt! We are increasingly a socialist state and I see nothing on the horizon that indicates we’ll be able to stop it, as it is like a cancer slowly consuming the host, so slowly that before a real fight for a cure begins we are likely to die of it anyway.


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on October 6, 2008 at 06:40 pm

see neiman, for once we agree.

I prefer to think of it as your turning from the dark side of the force towards the light. smile


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on October 6, 2008 at 06:42 pm

...I see nothing on the horizon that indicates we’ll be able to stop it…

Twelve years of Sarah.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on October 6, 2008 at 06:43 pm

"and I see nothing on the horizon that indicates we’ll be able to stop it, as it is like a cancer slowly consuming the host, so slowly that before a real fight for a cure begins we are likely to die of it anyway.”

With these words you concede defeat, so get on your knees. poke already has bloody knees.


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2Hotel9 on October 7, 2008 at 03:49 am

I prefer to think of it as your turning from the dark side of the force towards the light. 

What that tells me, and 2h9’s wierd comments, are that niether one of you have any idea where I am coming from. Thats ok. I dont doubt you motives neiman. 2h9’s on the other hand.......

dragon poker on October 7, 2008 at 01:35 pm

Simple point, poke, you are terrified of women. Every time you tell us Palin is a bimbo and stupid you loudly proclaim how terrified of women you are.

Your continued screeching about how the government is the only entity that can run healthcare, business, and education simply shows that you are a socilaist.

Nman, you are the one who wrote"and I see nothing on the horizon that indicates we’ll be able to stop it, as it is like a cancer slowly consuming the host, so slowly that before a real fight for a cure begins we are likely to die of it anyway.” not me. You have conceded defeat. Not me.


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2Hotel9 on October 7, 2008 at 02:27 pm

Every time you tell us Palin is a bimbo and stupid

Hey dipshit, I never said that. You continue to lie. Thats too bad. Your very confused...unless of course you can produce the alleged quotes you keep attributing to me.

Your continued screeching about how the government is the only entity that can run healthcare, business, and education simply shows that you are a socilaist.

Same deal here dipshit. You cant produce anything even close to what your asserting. You are a liar, or you have no idea who you are posting too. Either way, you are loooking like a fool to everyone but yourself.
Come on boy, prove it. Show me the quotes!!!

dragon poker on October 7, 2008 at 02:33 pm

stalker: If you deny being a socialist, where do you stand on govt entry into the private sector?  If Two is wrong, please give us the details of what you really support.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on October 7, 2008 at 02:35 pm

Whatever, suckpuppet.


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2Hotel9 on October 7, 2008 at 02:45 pm

If you deny being a socialist, where do you stand on govt entry into the private sector?

As if I would need to justify anything to an obtuse jerk like you....but others read this as well, so here ya go bobert:
The constitution has no provisions to allow govt. intervention of any kind into the private sector. I think the constitution should be followed to as close to the letter as can be done, taking into consideration that we do not live in the late 18th century. I would like to see govt. excluded entirely from the free market. I find govt. interference to be a hinderance in my own business, both day to day, and in the big picture.
That said, I am not obtuse like you. I understand that what I want is not reality, has not been for a long time, and nothing I do will change that fact. In order for me to do business and be successful, I have to see things as they are, not as I want them to be. You obviously have the luxury of retirement and a static production level in your life. I do not. You can wish in one hand and shit in the other if you like. I have to function as a business in the real world. I have to see things as they are, not as I wish they were.

dragon poker on October 7, 2008 at 02:48 pm

Whatever, suckpuppet.

ooo, thats a good one. Your honking again.

dragon poker on October 7, 2008 at 02:49 pm

You obviously have the luxury of
retirement and a static production level in your life.

Wrong again, stalker.
So, after claiming to support the Constitution, you make bullshit excuses and rationalizations for your socialism.
Not surprising.  Two was right about you.  Another leftie liar with no moral compass.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on October 7, 2008 at 02:50 pm

r, it is just a suckpuppet, one of several we have floating around right now.


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2Hotel9 on October 7, 2008 at 03:02 pm

So, after claiming to support the Constitution, you make bullshit excuses and rationalizations for your socialism.
Not surprising.  Two was right about you.  Another leftie liar with no moral compass.

You dont get it bobert, but then I didnt expect you to. You are doomed to an ineffective flailing winter of your life.
Good luck with that.
I have said everything want to say to you.

dragon poker on October 7, 2008 at 03:09 pm

And you have still not proven Palin is stupid or a bimbo.


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2Hotel9 on October 7, 2008 at 03:10 pm
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