Home (Post) Mobile Authors Say Anything Register Login

Thursday, January 18, 2007

How to Win in Iraq

By H. W. Crocker III

A certain amount of Bush-slapping, but in a good cause:

All right, let’s skip all the introductory remarks and get to the point. Is victory still possible in Iraq? Yes, though the Bush administration keeps doing its level best to kick that prize away from our troops.

We can tally up the mistakes later (I’ll mention two of the worst ones at the end) but the first step to winning in Iraq is to define victory—and not to define it in such a way, as the Bush administration has done, that leaves us hostages to the Iraqi government. That is a strategic error of the first magnitude.

[...]

No one ever won a war by fighting for “not defeat.” You win a war by smashing up the enemy, by so overwhelming him but that he has no choice but to surrender or die. Instead we have “stayed the course” (where is the urgency in that?) and we have whined that losing would be a bad thing.

Yes, losing would be a bad thing—and the Bush administration should know, given that it has managed to lose both houses of Congress, alienate its own supporters, and convince the American people by a whopping majority that we cannot “win” in Iraq. Well done, Mr. President!

A PRESIDENT WITH SO LITTLE understanding of his own electorate can hardly, in fairness, be held to account for failing to understand the political realities in a country far away and of which he knows little—though this is scant consolation for those of us who not only think the war was the right and necessary thing to do but who share Mark Steyn’s conviction that “if Iraq’s lost, the Dems and the media will have a whole new quagmire template for the next 40 years.”

But whatever the failures of the administration, it is always a bad idea to bet against the American military.

Indeed, on the military front, things are not so dire as you might think.

First, while the American military—to avoid echoes of Vietnam—disdains kill ratios and body counts, it appears that Iraq is indeed a meat-grinder—for the insurgents. If the Islamists have made this their main battlefront, they’re paying a heavy price to maintain it.

[...]

As usual, General George S. Patton had it right: “A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week.”

But more fundamental than this, if we are to win in Iraq we need to start with the recognition that we have already won.

Before the war, we faced a hostile regime commanding the entire infrastructure of a fascist state. Now we face terrorists with roadside bombs. That’s a big reduction in enemy capabilities.

Toppling Saddam Hussein was a militarily achievable goal that our armed forces won splendidly—game, set, and match. We eliminated an overt enemy of the United States who had nurtured a Weapons of Mass Destruction program, who maintained a large army that fired on our planes patrolling the no-fly zones every day, and whose regime trained and harbored anti-American terrorists. And in ousting Saddam Hussein, we convinced Moammar Gaddafi to surrender his weapons of mass destruction program, and chided Pakistan into shutting down A.Q. Khan, who was the main funnel of WMD technology to rogue states. That’s no small accomplishment.

For an encore, we even guaranteed the security of three honestly conducted national elections in Iraq. That, too, was a militarily achievable goal, which we accomplished in 2005.

[...]

Do read the whole thing.

It’s time to stop whining and go for the win.

Comments

Avatar for Puzzlefeet

What the writer misses here is that the Iraqi government isn’t exactly on board with the new mission.  They want us to give them arms yet Maliki refuses to take the necessary steps to rein in the militias.  The Iraqi have to win this war in Iraq.

I’m just not sure how you go for the win when they US has to fight with one arm tied behind its back in a sovereign nation, Iraq.

Puzzlefeet on January 18, 2007 at 10:39 am
Rob
Rob
18060 comments
Send a private message

Don’t speak so fast, Puzzle.  It seems as though Maliki has gotten a serious attitude adjustment from the Bush administration.

Still in wait-and-see mode, but the change in tone is notable and refreshing.


When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Rob’s recently listened-to songs:

robport.gif border=0

Rob on January 18, 2007 at 10:47 am

P: If you read the entire article, your objection is handled.  Whether you agree with it or not, it’s a very good exposition of the situation there, with a way for us to win. I thought you would at least enjoy the Bush-slapping.  There’s more in the complete article, just to give you something to look forward to.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on January 18, 2007 at 10:50 am

The worse mistake was trying to install a democracy before the entire country was under complete and unstoppable US control. Stability first, elections second. Playing patty cake with Maliki, whose objective apears to be Sunni control, not democracy, is stupid for us and the Iraquis. This ‘surge’ comes too late to undo that. Not understanding the nature of the people you are trying to help was the second worse mistake. Time to pack it in and let them play king of the hill on their own.

Margie on January 18, 2007 at 02:46 pm

Time to pack it in and let them play king of the hill on their own.

You belong to the “can’t do” mindset and thought.

likwidshoe on January 18, 2007 at 02:53 pm

I believe in facing facts. The Confederacy fought on in an unwinnable war, sending out young boys and grandfathers. They weren’t real good at facing reality. It didn’t get them anywhere. How, exactly, do you propose to get the bitterly divided Sunni and Shiite population to stop cutting off each others heads and form a real government? Too much unchangeable hatered and bitterness there. Not to mention the Kurds. Three separate countries, equally sharing the oil wealth might have worked once, but that time has come and gone.

Margie on January 18, 2007 at 03:04 pm

Margie: You obviously didn’t read the entire article.  Do yourself a favor.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on January 18, 2007 at 03:11 pm

The Confederacy fought on in an unwinnable war,

Not at all true.  A lesser man than Lincoln would have folded the tent and figured it wasn’t worth it.

I believe in facing facts.

Only the facts that fit your agenda.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


The Whistler's signature
The Whistler on January 18, 2007 at 03:12 pm

Margie: Your Civil War analogy is backwards.  The US is the Union, with superior military power, and the terrorists are the Confederacy, trying to fight an unwinnable war.  The real difference is that the South didn’t have a propaganda organ(the leftie MSM) in the heart of the Union.  You have been played by the propaganda.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on January 18, 2007 at 03:13 pm

Margie: Furthermore, if we cut and run, the so-called “civil war” in Iraq will be over in a short time, with the Shiites slaughtering the Sunnis, since the Shiite population has far superior numbers.  Soon after, Iran will essentially run the country, and extend their domination of the region. Do you really want those two things to happen?  Talk about facing facts; you might try it in this instance.
We are there to keep the region from going to the enemy: Radical Islam, and this entire operation is a gift to us from Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.  We are tasked with cleaning up the mess they made.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on January 18, 2007 at 03:28 pm

It is bewildering that you think we can make an iota of difference in preventing that from happening unless we plan on trying to keep them apart forever. What’s your plan? They are never going to cooperate to bring stability to that region. It is destined to become a puppet of Iran. We need to learn to live with that and plan accordingly. Fill the moat, raise the drawbridge and put the resources where they will do some good. Shoring up our own defenses against attack.

Margie on January 18, 2007 at 03:39 pm

Shoring up our own defenses against attack.

That is exactly why we are in Iraq.  You have been so programmed with the defeatist propaganda of the Dems/terrorists that you can’t see what is plainly true.  We lose this, we lose everything.  What will stop them? Your arguments would apply to any place the terrorists choose to practice their terror strategy, including the US.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on January 18, 2007 at 03:48 pm

"someone” has not studied (or perhaps not been taught correctly).  I was an avid Civil War buff, having read close to 50 books on the subject in Jr. and Sr. High schools.  The Confederates won the (First) Battle of Bull Run.  Had they followed through, the War would have been over.  They were superior fighters and good shots.  The South under Lee left the battlefield assuming that they would “leave us alone now”.  Have you ever heard of Chancellorsville?  Stonewall Jackson.  How many Generals did Lincoln fire?

The Democrats campaigned against continuing the war. Lincoln, a Republican stuck with it and finally won.  Read more here if you like:


Communism is evil

Chief RZ on January 18, 2007 at 03:49 pm

The Japanese were united, one people that we had a chance of influencing, not a hodge-podge of sects trying to destroy each other, making it impossible to deal with them. I don’t know history that well, but I don’t think we installed a gov. and let them call the shots, either. Sorry, had to leave for a few minutes

Margie on January 18, 2007 at 03:57 pm

I was referring to the end days of the war when even our superior commanders could not win against the industrial North.

Margie on January 18, 2007 at 03:59 pm

Ah young boys, grandfathers.

clearly the situation today are different from then aren’t they?


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


The Whistler's signature
The Whistler on January 18, 2007 at 04:02 pm

In case you hadn’t noticed, fanatic Muslims are world wide, their rallying points, everywhere. Even a complete victory in Iraq would not assure our saftey. This is a world-wide thing. Afghanistan is acting up again.  Lots of nations have their troublesome fanatic populations. Attacks can be planned anywhere. Our defense should logically be here, where we can be the most effective

Margie on January 18, 2007 at 04:06 pm

Ok, that was not a good analogy for the hopelessness of trying to contain in one place the wide-spread ideology that wants us dead or slaves to them. I just don’t think it is practical to believe that we can repress or control a wild-fire like that. All we can do is look to ourselves.

Margie on January 18, 2007 at 04:11 pm

Margie: Your defeatist rhetoric is not only wrong, but the enemy is already here in the US.  It is the people who feed you the ideas you regurgitate in your comments.  I say again, you have been played.  You don’t win on defense.  Carter and Clinton created a big mess in the ME, but it just makes the job more difficult and costly, not impossible.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on January 18, 2007 at 04:11 pm

who maintained a large army that fired on our planes patrolling the no-fly zones every day, and whose [Saddam’s] regime trained and harbored anti-American terrorists.--H. W. Crocker III

For a start, this part is either dishonest, or this guy simply isn’t smart enough to be listened too. `Trained and harbored anti-American terrorists’? Only the most mentally deficient and rabid bushie could claim this. And a better (and more honest) choice would have been `daily’ instead of `every day’ for the no-fly zone attacks.

Why not step back in Iraq and hand the occupation over to UN peace-keepers led by Arabs (maybe Iranians?). And apparently, the Sunni-Shiite issue is not nearly as serious as the `lying MSM’ (whatever that is) says it is.


“All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.”
“Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.” —George Orwell

Anarchist Vegetarian on January 18, 2007 at 04:44 pm

"Daily” means “every day”.  And that’s not the worst of your errors in the comment.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on January 18, 2007 at 05:19 pm

“Daily” means “every day”.  And that’s not the worst of your errors in the comment.--Robert108

Good point. Though it isn’t as strict as `every day’, it is still too strict. I guess one would have to change it to something like `regularly’.


“All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.”
“Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.” —George Orwell

Anarchist Vegetarian on January 18, 2007 at 05:35 pm
Avatar for Puzzlefeet

Rob, as you are prone to say, it’s all in the sustainability factor, whether this is just for show on Maliki’s part.  We’ll see what happens when the rubber hits the road, if the constitiution is changed, the ministries actually do something for the Iraqi people and whether the oil money will be divided. 

R108, it’s not about our ability to win, it is about the Iraqi resolve to become a united country which is what they voted for but as of yet have not become.  It’s about the Iraqis putting nationalism above religious sectarian.  That is where my doubts are and most of the country.

Puzzlefeet on January 18, 2007 at 06:33 pm

R108, it’s not about our ability to win, it is about the Iraqi resolve to become a united country which is what they voted for but as of yet have not become.  It’s about the Iraqis putting nationalism above religious sectarian.  That is where my doubts are and most of the country.

Bosnia is still a mess ten years later, but no one is calling for a pullout there; why the double standard?  It took us 7-8 years to get our govt together after the War of Independence, and we didn’t have a terrorist neighbor trying to stir up trouble.  This pushing for immediate perfection is just another leftie tactic to create defeat for the US, IMO.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on January 18, 2007 at 06:52 pm
Page 1 of 1        

Post a Comment


Before commenting, please recite:

Grant me the serenity to ignore the trolls,
the courage to debate with honest opponents,
and the wisdom to know the difference.

Name   
Email   
URL   
Human?
  
 

Upload Image    

Remember my personal information

Notify me of follow-up comments?

Note: Notifications will only be sent to confirmed email addresses. Confirm your email address here.