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There you go again. Can you possibly be any more of an apologist for Islam? Without wearing a burqa yourself, that is......

The future ain’t what it used to be.....

I have asked a few Muslims about the covering of the face and they said it is more about tradition than Islam.

Pilgrim, what’s your point?

Pil… maybe I am making fun of super liberal Holland. The fake dialogue was just a joke - you know, in keeping with Islams hatred of Britney Spears and ‘fleshy’ T n’ A culture in general. After all they do have sex museums, shows, a giant penis fountain… Maybe I am not being an apologist for Islam. Maybe I am pointing out the foolish nature of a parenting law like this based on an idealism (and not Christian idealism) and sold as realism. Maybe the ‘security’ motivated realists are being duped by the idealists (Marxists or commies right?) and its leading to a decreased ability for the citizenry to be unique or individualistic. These types of laws aimed at religion should bother anyone who is religious and has certain beliefs and/or practices that are exercised in public or semi-public places. We see the slippery slope argument often on this blog, but it is rarely used logically. If I were religious I would see laws like this as the erosion of religious freedoms. But hey, whatever…

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Yes, the defence of freedom has a tyranny all of its own if we’re not careful. Like that film “The Last Supper”. Although mainly what I remember from that film is all those tomatoes…

Funny that I didn’t really hear more outrage about this. If it was the US, instead of Holland, I’m sure the rest of the world would never let us hear the end of it; rightfully so, but the double standards are stunning.

Well fair enough, but the Netherlands are not considered a more dangerous state than North Korea by a majority of its best allies’ citizens, are they?

I remember a joint broadcast between the US and UK post 9/11 on the radio. Some British guy said to an American Senator guest that he was worried that the situation could escalate. The Senator replied that he found it stunning that anything which happened next could be conceived of as an escalation: full-scale war in two or more countries, killing tens of thousands of soldiers and civilians could not be considered an escalation compared to three thousand American deaths. No wonder you’re feared, if that’s what a Senator (a Senator!) says.

Well by that standard Calmdown we shouldn’t have warred with Japan either.  I mean they only killed 3000 or so.

I’m sorry if you start a fight you better expect the other side to fight with everything they got.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

One: Neither Iraq nor Afghanistan perpetrated 9/11. Two: the mentality that says two full-scale wars and tens of thousands of civilian deaths couldn’t possibly constitute an escalation compared to 9/11 appals and frightens me. So I don’t think your point about Japan is actually connected to my post. When I heard that Senator say that it was clear that things were going to get worse and that a lot of innocent people were going to die. What he was saying is essentially this: that as long as America were no longer attacked in this way, any amount of death and suffering among the civilians of other countries was justified. That’s bad enough, but then to attack a country with no proper links to the crime in the first place?

These are some of the most ethnocentric comments I have read. If you don’t know the meaning of the word, do look it up. It basically means that people form negative views about other cultures based upon innate differences between various cultures. An example comes to mind, during the colonization, rather exploitation of the world couple of hundred years ago by mainly western peoples, various, dare I day the word, different cultures were encountered. This included a group of people who actually used to eat their dead, this of course was abhorrent to those canon yielding white men, they made sure this tribe never AGAIN ate its dead and buried them in a very Christian manner. After enlightening these people, and being in Africa, these “explorers” would go to Egypt, find a few mummies, grind them up and sell them to their European compatriots as a remedy for many illnesses. The Europeans who bought these remedies knowing these were dead human remains would continue to read in books and call out the Africans as barbarians for their malicious acts. THE point is, if a nun is allowed to cover all of her body except her face, then why is there an objection towards a minority of Muslim women, who choose to cover like the nuns and add about a half a foot more of cloth over their faces. Is the issue really oppression, or is it all about poking your nose where it does not belong ? Just because the west has perceived something about others, whom it does not fully understand, as oppressive, it does not make it so. If a Muslim woman “chooses” to wear a Burqa, then why stop her, unless we are willing to admit that there lies something more sinister within these hearts thumping to free Muslim women from their cages, namely a wrong full hate of Islam, then we cannot go on and be as barbaric and crusader like as we are trying to be.

individualistic. These types of laws aimed at religion should bother anyone who is religious and has certain beliefs and/or practices that are exercised in public or semi-public places.

Once in a great while you come up with a rational point. can it be construed as an attack on religion. Absolutely. But… that being said, right now Holland is being overwhelmed by radical Islam. They’re waking up to the threat and this is a reaction to it.

Besides, in most societies there is some form of law or ordinance forbidding people to mask themselves in public. Why should this be any different?

The future ain’t what it used to be.....

These are some of the most ethnocentric comments I have read. If you don’t know the meaning of the word, do look it up. It basically means that people form negative views about other cultures based upon innate differences between various cultures.

Yo, Mohammed....that’s NOT the definition of ethnocentric. I suggest YOU look it up before you do any more pseudo-intellectual posturing.

Further, your argument is disjointed and ridiculous. This isn’t a left wing blog where you can go off half cocked and make ridiculous statements without being challenged. Get a clue before you start making absurd posts like the one above. And a few more IQ points.

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One: Neither Iraq nor Afghanistan perpetrated 9/11.

One, the Taliban was Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda was the Taliban.  So you’re wrong about Afghanistan.  The government of Afghanistan was complicit in the activities of Al Qaeda.

Iraq was a state sponsor of terrorism. 

Two: the mentality that says two full-scale wars and tens of thousands of civilian deaths couldn’t possibly constitute an escalation compared to 9/11 appals and frightens me.

Well you got us.  I don’t know who’s stupid enough not to call it an escalation.  Probably someone stupid enough to apologize for responding after we were attacked.  Here’s the deal, you attack the US and we respond.

Why in the world you think our response should be proportionate is beyond me.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

It actually is a correct usage of the term, may I suggest http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism , and remember there are many ways of saying about the same thing. Anthropologist agree upon the basic premise of what ethnrocentrism is, and you will find my definition to be very general within that framework. Also, please do prove my argument as disjointed and ridiculous.

right now Holland is being overwhelmed by radical Islam

Right. Remember what I said about how they smoke dope, have giant penis statues, sex shows.... Also the government there remains 90something percent whitey. I don’t think Holland is being overwhelmed by radical Islam. If I were to pick a country in Europe I would go after Germany and accuse it of that. But then again your agenda appears to be

go off half cocked and make ridiculous statements

despite coming down on others. Your “hate and kill Islam blinders” are making you trot funny little horsey.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Radical Islam is such a threat to the entire world. IF they want the women to wear the burqa, I suggest they wear them in their own country. The burqa is kind of a threatening garment. You never know if they might have a bomb under it? Not a bomb shell...Ha!

IF they want the women to wear the burqa, I suggest they wear them in their own country.

In war, the side that escalates the highest wins.  Whining about “escalation” is the tactic of the inferior force.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

Yes, Ragheadistan would be a good place for them to wear their burkas! I like that idea. Isn’t that near Mecca?…

When I was in Holland I read an article in the paper about a disabled construction worker who, as part of his disability dole, got a prostitute once a month on the government. That seems a bit far from being, “overwhelmed by radical Islam”.
The modern art museum there is really cool too… and the Van Gogh museum.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Wow! You are going to perk up the interest for socialized medicine if you keep taliking like that, Sparkie. These guys are kind of a wild bunch...Careful.

health care the construction workers can ‘get behind’

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

If people from Poland are Poles, why aren’t people from Holland called Holes?

...people from Poland are Poles, why aren’t people from Holland called Holes?

I don’t know. Maybe we can start calling them ‘Holes’ here on SA. Eneils, you are obviously quite a deep thinker eh?