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Sunday, February 04, 2007

Has Kim Jong Il won?

Is that what these articles are telling us?

From Xinhua,
U.S. top nuclear envoy expects “real changes” in six-party talks
http://www.chinaview.cn 2007-02-03 21:34:08

Related report: Six-party talks - 3rd phase of 5th round

SEOUL, Feb. 3 (Xinhua)—Christopher Hill, U.S. chief negotiator for the six-party talks, said Saturday here that he expects “some real changes” in next week’s six-party talks.

“I am not going to get into specific elements, but I think we need to see some real changes on the ground,” Hill, who is also the assistant secretary of State, told reporters upon his arrival at the Incheon International Airport.

“We’ve had a lot of consultations for this round, and reasonably we can make some progress,” Hill said. “Let’s see if some of those useful, substantive conversations we’ve had can be put to use in negotiations.”

“I think we have to go from having various declarations to having agreement on implementation,” Hill added. “So I am looking for some implementation of the September 2005 agreement, meaning something changes on the ground.”

Diplomats from China, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea(DPRK), the United States, South Korea, Russia and Japan will gather in Beijing next Wednesday to launch the third session of the fifth round of the six-party talks on the nuclear issues on the Korean Peninsula.

Hill will stay in South Korea until next Monday to fine-tune a strategy for the negotiation with Seoul and then fly to Japan.

At a joint statement adopted in the fourth round of the six-party talks on Sept. 19 2005, DPRK agreed to drop its nuclear weapon program in exchange for security guarantee, economic aids and normalization of diplomatic ties with the United States. However, the statement has not been implemented so far.

Related: U.S. hopes to make progress in six-party talks

WASHINGTON, Feb. 1 (Xinhua)—The United States said on Thursday it hopes to make progress when the six-party talks aimed at dissolving the nuclear programs of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) resume on Feb. 8.

“We do believe we have a basis for making progress at this round,” U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Christopher Hill said at a briefing.

China hopes upcoming 6-party talks to end in 3-4 days

BEIJING, Jan. 31 (Xinhua)—Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Wu Dawei, who is also China’s chief negotiator to the six-party talks, said on Wednesday that he hopes the upcoming session of six-party talks will accomplish its mission within three to four days.

Wu’s remarks came after the United States and the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea ended their second-day of talks on financial issues.

From the Gaurdian, via AsiaPacificNews
U.S. Nuclear Envoy Due in South Korea

Saturday February 3, 2007 6:46 AM

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - The main U.S. negotiator with North Korea was to arrive in Seoul on Saturday to coordinate strategies for upcoming six-nation talks on the North’s nuclear program.

Assistant Secretary of State Christopher Hill was scheduled to meet his South Korean counterpart, Chun Yung-woo, and other officials during a three-day visit on how to make progress in nuclear talks set to resume Thursday.

Hill will visit Tokyo on Monday for similar discussions before flying to Beijing on Wednesday for the nuclear negotiations.

Hopes are higher than ever that the upcoming discussions with North Korea could yield concrete results amid indications that Washington and Pyongyang have narrowed differences over a key financial dispute that has hindered negotiations.

Before his departure, Hill said in Washington there is a ``basis for making progress at this round.’’

The negotiations - involving China, Japan, the two Koreas, Russia and the U.S. - have made little headway since their first and only agreement in September 2005, in which North Korea said it would give up its nuclear program in exchange for aid and security guarantees.

Progress stalled soon afterward because of Pyongyang’s objection to U.S. financial restrictions targeting the North for its alleged counterfeiting of U.S. currency and money laundering.

At the latest round in December - the first after the North’s October nuclear test - Pyongyang refused to address disarmament issues and demanded the U.S. lift financial restrictions first. The North claims the measures show Washington’s hostile attitude and illustrate its need for a nuclear deterrent.
And AP, via FoxNews
Report: North Korea Would Freeze Nuclear Facility in Exchange for Oil

Sunday , February 04, 2007

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SEOUL, South Korea —
The main U.S. envoy to North Korea nuclear talks said Sunday the upcoming round could see agreements on initial steps toward the communist nation’s disarmament, but he cautioned it would take longer for the North to completely give up its nuclear weapons drive.

“Frankly, we cannot accept anything less than 100 percent implementation of the September statement,” U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Christopher Hill told reporters, referring to a 2005 pledge in which the North agreed to give up its nuclear program in exchange for aid and security guarantees.

“We won’t get it this month, but maybe we can have a good beginning,” Hill said before a meeting with his South Korean counterpart, Chun Yung-woo, to coordinate strategy ahead of the nuclear talks set to resume Thursday in Beijing.

• Monitor the nuclear showdown on the Korean Peninsula in FOXNews.com’s North Korea Center.

“But, the ultimate task for us is to complete denuclearization, not just begin denuclearization,” Hill said.

Hill’s comments came after a Japanese news report on Sunday said that North Korea is prepared to halt operations at a key nuclear facility in exchange for oil and an easing of U.S. financial restrictions.

Japan’s Asahi Shimbun newspaper reported that North Korea was prepared to close the reactor in its main nuclear complex in Yongbyon and accept inspections by the International Atomic Energy Agency—though the reactor itself would remain off-limits.

Asahi quoted former U.S. State Department official Joel Wit, who was in Beijing following meetings with chief North Korean arms negotiator Kim Kye Gwan and other senior officials in Pyongyang days ago.

The North, however, does not intend to close the site used for its October nuclear weapons test, will not allow inspections there, and is not prepared to reveal details of its nuclear weapons program, the report cited Wit as saying.

Hill declined to comment on the report.

At the coming disarmament talks this week, North Korea also will demand it be taken off Washington’s list of states sponsoring terrorism, the report said.

In return, Pyongyang plans to demand energy aid of more than 500,000 tons of crude oil a year to compensate for an aborted project to build two light-water reactors in the country, according to the report.

The North also will insist that Washington take steps to lift financial sanctions against North Korean assets held in Macau, imposed over the communist regime’s alleged counterfeiting of U.S. dollar bills and money laundering activities, the report said.

U.S. treasury and North Korean officials last week wrapped up another inconclusive round of negotiations over the financial sanctions. But U.S. officials have since expressed optimism the financial dispute would not disrupt the main nuclear talks.

Wit was accompanied by U.S. nuclear expert David Albright and traveled to Pyongyang on an official invitation, the report said.

The United States had supplied 500,000 tons of heavy fuel oil annually to the North until Pyongyang received the two light-water reactors as a reward under a 1994 deal to freeze its nuclear program.

The deal was scrapped in 2002, however, when the nuclear crisis re-emerged and North Korea kicked out IAEA inspectors.

The international arms talks, which involve the U.S., the two Koreas, China, Japan and Russia, have made little headway since the 2005 accord, the only agreement reached in the process.

At the latest round of discussions in December, the first since the North’s Oct. 9 nuclear test, Pyongyang refused to discuss disarmament and demanded the U.S. lift financial sanctions first.

Complete coverage is available in FOXNews.com’s North Korea Center.

It would certainly seem so.

Comments

Avatar for youdunno

I recommend this short movie which mocks Kim Jong Il and his special agents for buying Hennessy XO abroad :=)

The full 30-minute movie can be watched and downloaded (in WMV or Flash format) at:

http://nk007movie.googlepages.com/

youdunno on February 4, 2007 at 09:26 am

I don’t recommend that movie, but this is pretty scary. That guy has a lot of bad shit piled up in that po-dunk little country.


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on February 4, 2007 at 09:56 am

See sparkle? You and me can get along. You are the 3rd person in a month to bring that particular page up.

The citizens of NK are literally starving to death, and their government has expended billions of dollars meant to feed and provide medical care for them on this crap. And he wants the international community(ie;America) to give him more free food,fuel, and money so he will say he is going to not do all this. That he has already done.

Just priceless. Trey&Matt could not write any better comedy.


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on February 4, 2007 at 10:23 am

2H9
N.Korea is pretty interesting. The whole question of what the eff will happen when the place begins to flop. Will ‘Il’ just make a little run for it and get dragged through the streets or will he try to light the candles on his own little world-wide nuclear-chemical-biological birthday cake? What will go on between S. Korea and China in his absence? China wants the ports bad. It may be a pretty devastating thing for the population there which sucks because I think they are gonna suffer a lot and I don’t think they nec. want to be commies or defend this ugly, psychotic crackpot.

I may be the second person referencing that page this month since I did it like a week or two ago also.


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on February 4, 2007 at 02:59 pm

Naw, one is in Budapest, the other is in South Africa. Will Lil Kim pull the plug? The casualties among the Korean population are going to be staggering. It will make Central Africa and the Holocaust look like a fistfight. This is why we have not pushed them to the wall. There are enough Staff&Command officers in the NK government who will actually do it. The population density within 100 kilometers of the DMZ is very heavy, the city of Seoul alone will provide 12-15 million, the Tague-Pusan corridor will throw another 20 odd on the fire. Residual casualties from secondary strikes,disease,starvation etc will move the numbers well over 100 million, because the South is not just going to lay down and submit. They will fight.

Then there is the backsplash, NK military has an ax to grind with Manchuria and China proper.

The real question is, if we smack Kim and leave a governmental structure standing, will they pull the plug? That, young sir, is where the metal meets the meat.


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on February 4, 2007 at 03:56 pm

Don’t forget Red China / PRC. 

During the Koran war, when we landed at Inchon and drove North, millions of screaming Red Chinese came storming south of the Yalu river and hit the US Army / Marines and UN forces hard.  The weather and terrain didn’t help much either.  We can hardly hit Korea without provoking the Red Chinese to a fight.

And both N. Korea and Red China have been itching for a fight for some time now, e.g. forcing down our recon ship, laser-painting our satellites, launching missiles over Taiwan. 

Other factors: We have come in competition with them over fossil fuels, building materials and just about anything else. 

They are also in the midst of a major demographic problem—their one-child policy and preference to male babies over female babies has resulted in a massive skewing of males being reported as born over females.  Think they’ve got millions of excess, horned-out young soldiers to kill off (’casualties???  Ha!! Make our day!’ )

Read just about anything by Lev Nazarov over at Newmax.com for more info on their cutting edge weapons programs.

Between N. Korea and Red China (vs. the USA) , the better question might be WAR: Not If. But When?


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Move_Zig on February 4, 2007 at 05:51 pm

2H9- I am leaning towards a precision strike, taking out Kim and NK’s CinC, leaving a functioning government. China does not want a massive influx of refugees into Manchuria. Those provinces are not especially stable, the near collapse of the mining/industrial base in the northeast and the steady flow of skilled labor towards the south and to the 3 Gorges project has destabilised what was once China’s industrial backbone.

China and Kim are not on the best of terms. Seeing his potbellied dog eating ass get shanked would be a less than sorrowful event, as far as the Emerald Throne would be concerned. They will huff and puff and make a public outcry. Not much more.

Wifey on February 4, 2007 at 06:49 pm
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