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Monday, October 06, 2008

Gwen Ifill’s VP Debate Bias

By Lee Cary

A careful reading of the questions Gwen Ifill asked during the VP debate reveals several that displayed her bias.

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The Forced-Choice Question

The forced-choice question aims to force an answer from a choice of options defined by the interviewer. For example, in the early stages of the Afghanistan War, the late Peter Jennings asked Pervez Musharraf, then President of Pakistan, if the United States in Afghanistan was “bombing too much or too little.”

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During the VP debate, Ifill used forced-choice questions to further her biases. Here’s one:

“As America watches these things [Congress struggling with the bailout bill] happen on Capital Hill, Senator Biden, was this the worse of Washington or the best of Washington that we saw play out?”

Honestly now, how many sane, reasonable people see the bailout ordeal as representing the “best” of Washington?

It was a tee-up question for Biden. He said, “neither the best nor worse,” but it was, he said, a reflection of the bad economic policies of “the last eight years.” In other words, it was the worse of Washington on the Bush-Republican side.

What would an un-biased question in this venue sound like? How about this: As America watches theses things happen on Capital Hill, what should they reasonably expect to be the outcome, and its impact on their lives?

Here’s another example of an Ifill forced-choice question:

“Who do you think was at fault? I start with you, Governor Palin. Was it the greedy lenders?  Was it the risky home-buyers who shouldn’t have been buying a home in the first place? And what should you be doing about it?”

Notice the choice not on the list—Congressionally driven Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac policies that forced banks to make loans to people who had no ability to repay them.

Governor Palin accepted the Ifill choices and blamed ‘predator lenders” and Wall Street “greed” and “corruption.”

The Bias-Premised Question

Ifill asked,

“Senator Biden, how, as vice president, would you work to shrink this gap of polarization which has sprung up in Washington, which you both have spoken about here tonight.”

The key twin concepts in that question are “polarization” and “sprung up.” The implied bias is that during the Bush administration polarization “sprung up.”

Ifill is a smart, educated woman. She knows that partisan polarization has been part of Washington since the death of the man the city is named after. She also knows that when the House voted on the first version of the bailout bill, many Democrats voted against it.  The “polarization” over the bailout wasn’t based on political parties. It was based on economic free-market philosophy. 

Here’s another Ifill bias-premised question:

“Governor and Senator, I want you both to respond to this. Secretaries of State Baker, Kissinger, Powell, they have all advocated some level of engagement with enemies. Do you think these former secretaries of state are wrong on that?”

This was a back-door effort to support Barak Obama’s “no preconditions” statement made during his nomination campaign. Ifill’s bias is that there’s nothing wrong with what Obama said.

Ifill knows that, diplomatically, “some level of engagement with enemies” goes on all the time, often through back channels using third parties. The idea that we don’t communicate with our enemies is a Beltway media myth.

Hers was a cleverly formed question, since a “no” answer to the closed-ended query (a “yes” or “no” type question) with which it ends (Do you think...?) would sustain the notion that what Obama said is consistent with, and analogous to, what the former Secretaries of State say. Ifill uses the question to establish conceptual parity without the opportunity to challenge the premise.

(Peter Jennings tied this tactic once with General Tommy Franks, and Franks made Jennings, unaccustomed to being challenged, sit up straight in his chair by saying, “Peter, I don’t accept the premise of your question.")

Here’s another example of a biased question.

“Governor, you mentioned a moment ago the Constitution might give the vice president more power than it has in the past.  Do you believe as Vice President Cheney does, that the Executive Branch does not hold complete sway over the office of the vice presidency, that it is also a member of the Legislative Branch?”

Out of left field, Ifill interjects the man Democrats love to hate, Dick Cheney, into the debate. She attributes an unexplained and unsubstantiated interpretation of the Constitution to Cheney, and then asks Palin to defend or attack that interpretation.  (What interpretation?)

It was a question designed to trap Palin, akin to Charlie Gibson’s “Bush Doctrine” question.  Palin gave a one sentence non-committal answer, and then moved away from the topic. The question gave Biden another chance to demonize Cheney, and display his strikingly faulty understanding of when the VP presides over the Senate.  He said,

“The only authority the vice president has from the legislative standpoint is the vote, only when there is a tie vote. He has no authority relative to the Congress.”

Say what? This notion when unchallenged by Ifill. Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution reads:

“The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.

“The Senate shall choose their other Officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the Office of President of the United States.”

Cheney, and other Vice Presidents, could sit up on the platform and preside over the Senate every time it’s in session, but they’ve other things to do.  This is Biden’s “no authority” interpretation.

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The Contrived Dichotomy Question

Listen for the contrived dichotomy buried in this convoluted question from Ifill.

“Senator Biden, we want to talk about taxes, let’s talk about taxes. You proposed raising taxes on people who earn over $250,000 a year. The question for you is, why is that not class warfare and the same question for you, Governor Palin, is you have proposed a tax employer health benefits which some studies say would actually throw five million more people onto the roles of the uninsured. I want to know why that isn’t taking things out on the poor, starting with you, Senator Biden.”

Nevermind Ifill’s specious citation of an unnamed, uncertified source as “some studies.” (What studies?) Note the dichotomy she creates within her question: Biden wants to tax the rich versus Palin wants to take health insurance away from the poor. 

Another tee-up for Biden. He begins his answer with,

“Well Gwen, where I come from, it’s called fairness, just simple fairness.”

Conclusion

To conclude that Gwen Ifill’s moderating efforts displayed through her questions were without bias requires a willing suspension of disbelief.

Her moderator performance represents another sad day for America’s entrenched, and ever less objective, television journalism.

Read the whole thing.  This should surprise no one.  Not only does Ifill have a financial stake in Obama’s being elected to the Presidency, she has made numerous anti-Palin responses on PBS.

Comments

Avatar for Hawk

She attributes an unexplained and unsubstantiated interpretation of the Constitution to Cheney

Cheney has filed a case in federal court claiming this so it is neither unsubstantiated or unexplained.

The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.

The Senate gets to make its own rules.  So basically the Vice President can’t be locked out of the Senate and he gets to break ties, but other than that he has little to no authority.

Hawk on October 6, 2008 at 09:28 am

Cheney has filed a case in federal court claiming this so it is neither unsubstantiated or unexplained.

How about a citation, counselor?


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Bat One on October 6, 2008 at 09:31 am
Avatar for Hawk

Actually I was wrong to say that Cheney filed the case, he responded to the case making the claim that only some of his records were subject to the Presidential Records Act because he was not fully part of the Executive branch. 

The United States District Court For The District of Columbia, Civil Action No. 08-1548

Hawk on October 6, 2008 at 09:51 am

So basically the Vice President can’t be locked out of the Senate and he gets to break ties, but other than that he has little to no authority.

Not true; it’s detailed in the full article.
Even if what you claim is true, it doesn’t change the fact of Ifill’s bias in introducing Cheney with this highly agendized question.
Nice try at distraction, leftie.


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robert108 on October 6, 2008 at 09:51 am

Actually I was wrong to say that Cheney filed the case, he responded to the case making the claim that only some of his records were subject to the Presidential Records Act because he was not fully part of the Executive branch.

First, congratulations on admitting your mistake; second, Cheney was right: he’s also part of the Legislative Branch.

Thanks again.


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robert108 on October 6, 2008 at 10:07 am
Avatar for Hawk

he’s also part of the Legislative Branch.

His office is established in Article II.  He is part of the executive branch with duties in the Legislative Branch.  I think you are going to find that since he has limited undefined duties as President of the Senate that the court is going to rule the the OVP is subject to the Presidential Records Act, as it should.

Hawk on October 6, 2008 at 10:19 am

Hawk, does the VP, or does he not, get a vote in the Senate under certain circumstances?  If so, then in some fairly limited sense, he is “also part of the legislative branch”.

That’s an academic question though, because if the duties that the VP is trying to claim some special privileges on happen to be Article II, then clearly his privileges are constrained by Article II.  If on the other hand, they are related to e.g. Senatorial deliberation, then I think Article I would apply.

Put another way, I saw Cheney’s original argument as embarrassing and thought he should never have been put it forward.  Regardless, the greater question is still valid, regardless of how imbecilic the original argument given by Cheney happened to be.

Carrick on October 6, 2008 at 10:27 am

Hawk: Again with the distraction; none of this excuses Ifill’s obvious bias in bringing up his name where it wasn’t relevant.  Had she mentioned some Dem VP, there might have been some excuse, but it was simple demonization, nothing more.
To lefties like Ifill, Cheney is a demon; it’s a lot like Kerry bringing up Cheney’s gay daughter.  No probative value.


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robert108 on October 6, 2008 at 10:32 am

I think this is correct though: he responded to the case making the claim that only some of his records were subject to the Presidential Records Act because he was not fully part of the Executive branch.

Those records that are in support of his role as President of the Senate clearly would not fall under Executive Branch.  The original issue in dispute was with Cheney complying with an executive order to release statistics on classified documents held within the office of the VP.  If those documents were there solely in support of Cheney’s role as President of the Senate he would be right.  I would think any documents related to his executive duties would be covered by the executive order.

Carrick on October 6, 2008 at 10:34 am
Avatar for Lestat

Those records that are in support of his role as President of the Senate clearly would not fall under Executive Branch.  The original issue in dispute was with Cheney complying with an executive order to release statistics on classified documents held within the office of the VP.  If those documents were there solely in support of Cheney’s role as President of the Senate he would be right.  I would think any documents related to his executive duties would be covered by the executive order.

The test you propose would be impossible to enforce.  How do you know when his actions are within the scope of his executive duties or as President of the Senate.  The President lobbies the Congress all the time about legislative matters so you cannot simply say when he is discussing legislative matters he is President of the Senate.  A more clear test is what part of the Constitution establishes the office.  It is Article II, the Executive Branch.

Lestat on October 6, 2008 at 11:32 am

Hawk,

Thank you for that admission… and for the citation as well.


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Bat One on October 6, 2008 at 11:53 am

I think you are going to find that since he has limited undefined duties as President of the Senate that the court is going to rule the the OVP is subject to the Presidential Records Act, as it should.

Hawk,

Are the Vice President’s executive branch duties any more expansive or any less ill-defined?  I don’t think so.

The argument that this is a political question and that the courts should thus not involve themselves seems to me to be persuasive.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on October 6, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Avatar for Hawk

Are the Vice President’s executive branch duties any more expansive or any less ill-defined?  I don’t think so.
The argument that this is a political question and that the courts should thus not involve themselves seems to me to be persuasive.

Article II establishes the office so if the role isn’t clearly defined than it should be considered to be Executive.

The court is not going to call this a political question.  If so than they wouldn’t have granted the injunction.

Hawk on October 6, 2008 at 01:31 pm

None of this excuses Ifill’s obvious attempt to associate Sarah with Cheney.  Pure bias.


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robert108 on October 6, 2008 at 01:49 pm

Hawk:

The test you propose would be impossible to enforce

That is way overstating it, and perhaps even misses a very important point.

If he were to claim legislative privilege (which basically protects him from executive oversight), then this claim would still be subject to oversight by the Senate, according to their established rules.  (Same as if a Senator made such a claim.)

Not nearly as difficult as you make it sound.

(Obviously this whole claim by Cheney was bullshit from the get-go, but that’s a separate issue from the Constitutional one.)

Carrick on October 6, 2008 at 11:33 pm
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