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OK… and your point is....?

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pp
Let me puree your feed into a nice paste and put it in a little bottle for you.

If you missed the point, you must not have read the post.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie,

There are those of us who are long out of our twenties who remember quite well how Russia held other nations in an iron fist.

The kids of the internet/cell phone/ipod generation haven’t a clue. To you its ancient history.

What you’re seeing isn’t the seduction of Georgian propaganda - it’s a reaction to Russia acting like it did just two generations ago.

Scary stuff....if you’ve been on eath long enough to wear out a couple of pairs of jeans.

The future ain’t what it used to be.....

Sparkie’s strawman is the idea that people who are condemning Russia’s use of Georgia’s stupidity as a pretense for invasion are saying that the Georgians have done nothing wrong.

Which is, of course, exactly the sort of stupidity you expect from someone like Sparkie.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Rob’s recently listened-to songs:

sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle,

Should we really require a baseless, or more accurately, counter factual, “opinion” which reeks of excrement we’ll send someone along to collect you with a shovel.

1) The Russian cyber-war campaign kicked off over a month ago.

2) The Russian armed forces amassed a logistics base across the Caucases from Georgia (in an area of few roads, no rail roads, and no navigable rivers) sufficient to support a corps level offensive.  Doing so requires months of planning and preperation.

This is the bear of old serving notice on the other break away former republics that they dare not stray too far.

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Russia has us in an interesting position!

I linked above… Bat One lying about the location of the pipeline to argue for us going in. He was invoking “Mother Russia”. When we slurp up propaganda, blatant propaganda at that, and bray about it and argue to the effect of “we need to punish russia"… we stand to loose many allies. Georgia provided good momentum for this mess by shooting civs. Now we are defending them and they continue to shoot civs. There are bogus reports of Russia’s activities being trumpeted in order to rationalize our actions. The pipeline jive talk is a farce. The owners of the pipeline have testified to that. Not only is it not in the region some of you have been claiming it is, its not been attacked by Russians. It was attacked last week in Turkey.

We stand to loose huge amounts of credibility with allies and potential allies alike. Short from rallying NATO, I think this will have a negative effect as NATO has many Euro countries in it who aren’t taken by the propaganda.

We need to not be rash. We need to be clearheaded and calculated. Both sides are in the wrong. Russia also has a very good angle to undermine us significantly in the International sphere. I know we, as Americans, shouldn’t worry about foreign opinion (or so you argue), but anyone who has feelings about geo-ethics and so on… knows of at least the pragmatic value of good allies.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

It’s now illegal aggression for Georgia to have troops on its own territory?  Say what?

Let’s help you out, Sparkless.  The “aggressor” is generally the country with its troops on another nation’s soil.  Got it?  In this case, it would be called “Russia.”

Now certainly national boundaries are a little bit trickier hundreds of years after the Czars (followed by the Bolsheviks) settled ethnic Russians in all of their territories.  Certainly human rights issues aren’t “easy” when you’ve got centuries-old ethnic hatreds incited in part by the Russian colonization, either.

That said, unless Russia can clearly demonstrate widespread abuses there, methinks they need to be on THEIR side of the line, and the world is right to condemn RUSSIA for their aggression.

saying that the Georgians have done nothing wrong

we are sending troops to georgia. to support THEM.

i read the news boys.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

we are sending troops to georgia. to support THEM.

Against the greater wrong.

I understand the news, cupcake.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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geo-ethics

What exactly are geo-ethics? 

Is this yet more philo-babble, psycho-babble, socio-babble that we are supposed to adhere to while trying to deal with the daily events in our lives and that of our nation?

Do you, Arbuckle, deal in anything except such arcane, esoteric systems which you believe give you a leg-up on us po’ folk?

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

Pilgrim

Scary stuff....

Yea, I know. You should check out all the mass guilt and historical vitriol that Hitler used to his advantage in between the first two world wars. Or Milosevic, for that matter. Condemning entire societies, races, peoples because of the posturing of their outmoded leaders is very scary. (As I have argued with respect to Iran.) Pride, which we all fight to have, in one way or another, can be manipulated in very scary ways.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Against the greater wrong.

Show me the math, cupcake.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

pp

What exactly are geo-ethics?

The idea that we should spread American democracy strikes me as geo-ethics.

Do you, Arbuckle, deal in anything except such arcane, esoteric systems which you believe give you a leg-up on us po’ folk?

Do you deal in debate or just personal attacks?

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

us po’ folk?

playing a Democrat hand in hopes a little victim sympathy help? do you think lil ol Sparkie is an elitist?

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Fair question, Arbuckle. I deal in debate, not arcane, esoteric methodologies by which I seek to claim a higher moral ground.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

So pp, you’re not going to accept the 108’s invitation to join his club?

Excuse me, you were saying?

Folks,

We waste our time here with sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle.  I propose to cease wasting my time on this PoS and encourage you to do likewise.

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

pp
your people are the geo-ethicists. i get that from ‘geo’ as in WORLD and ‘ethics’ as in GOOD/BAD. that’s hardly arcane. were you not familiar with those words? projection?

In psychology, psychological projection (or projection bias) is a defense mechanism in which one attributes one’s own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts or/and emotions to others. Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the unwanted subconscious impulses/desires without letting the conscious mind recognize them.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

rbb:  Don’t let’s be a smart-ass here. I am not a ‘joiner’.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pp,

Ass, and those things which emanate from such sources, are all “blackwater"boob has…

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

We waste our time here with sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle.

Some people like to interact with those who don’t share their beliefs from time to time. Shake things up, practice those old dusty arguments, update them as needed, and so on.

Not you. You like to hang out in the museum with the other artifacts.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

OMG, Arbuckle!!  Say it isn’t so!  Not only am I illiterate in the ways of geo-ethics [snicker] but now I’m projecting too!!??

Maybe I should just use Ockham’s Razor [more snickers] and end it all…

You?  An elitist?  Perish the thought. [most snickers]

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pp
Rob and r108 have both previously referred to Ockham’s razor (albeit by the other spelling, as we all know). Rob also names fallacies by their latin names from time to time. Does that make them elitists? At one point, I provided the etymology of “Ockham’s razor” because r108 was accusing me of spelling it wrong. You got nothing, bro.

Randy Grapeshot
You must be heated. Zig is. Rob is. I’ve been running quite amok in this little Ronny Reagan look-alike party.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Yet another useless insulting post by sparkless.  To summarize your post, everyone who comments at SAB except your enlighten self has succumbed to Georgian probaganda as you become a tool of Russian propaganda.  Unlike you, many of us lived through post WWII and know how the Russians operate and are not to be trusted in almost anything.  You are the fool here for not understanding that.

You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

you become a tool of Russian propaganda

British Petroleum is Russian propaganda? explain that.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Bat One lying about the location of the pipeline to argue for us going in.

Sparkie, my friend, you are quite nearly as delusional that “progressive” surfer dude who stupidly envisions himself some sort of Master of the Rhetorical Universe.

Please point out to me where I have lied about the specific location of the pipeline, and where I have advocated that the US should militarily intervene… if that’s what you meant by “going in.”

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One

Please point out to me where I have lied about the specific location of the pipeline

See the first link in the post above.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

etymology

etymology !!??

Oh, heavens!  I am sooo intimidated… another new arcane, esoteric methodology.

Not to be low-brow, but wouldn’t history have worked just as well in that sentence, Arbuckle?

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pp

Not to be low-brow, but wouldn’t history have worked just as well in that sentence, Arbuckle?

word history.

Etymology is the study of the history of words — when they entered a language, from what source, and how their form and meaning have changed over time.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Oh, Arbuckle, I’m so sorry.  I must have given you the impression that I didn’t know the definition of etymology.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pp
Why would I use the words “word history” if there is one word to do the job?

Ockham’s razor says I should proffer less entities.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

So, spark, are you still trying to tell us that Russia has not been working to destabilize the governments of all the former slave states? Really? It is all their own fault, because they refuse to bow down to Russia and the mafiosi? Really? That is your entire point, that all the former slaves must submit. To resist is an act of “aggression” against the innocent, pure of heart and benevolent Russian government?

Keep telling yourself that lie. You might actually convince you.

Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

Wow. That scarecrow is done for.

I merely pointed out the manner in which y’all run with incorrect info and propaganda.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”