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It really is so sad that every day our freedoms are slipping away.

Decency alludes homosexuals, this is to be expected.

Anyone remember ActUp, the gay liberation/terrorist organization?  Nothing was ever done to stop their outrageous and unlawful actions either.

Where are the campus police when this stuff happens?  If a group of conservatives interrupted a liberal speech, the kids would be maced, tased, handcuffed and dragged away.

When Hitler came to power, it was the ancient universities and their students who eagerly jumped in line first.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

When Hitler came to power, it was the ancient universities and their students who eagerly jumped in line first.

And I believe many of the black shirts were homos and perverts.

The Supreme Court is a bunch of black robed tyrants

DocDave: You don’t have to guess about homosexuality and the Nazi’s:

Betraying his roots in the “Butch” faction of the German “gay rights” movement, Roehm viewed homosexuality as the basis for a new society. Louis Snyder writes that Roehm “projected a social order in which homosexuality would be regarded as a human behavior pattern of high repute...he flaunted his homosexuality in public and insisted that his cronies do the same. What was needed, Roehm believed, was a proud and arrogant lot who could brawl, carouse, smash windows, kill and slaughter for the hell of it. Straights, in his eyes, were not as adept in such behavior as practicing homosexuals.” “The principle function of this army-like organization,” writes historian Thomas Fuchs, ”was beating up anyone who opposed the Nazis, and Hitler believed this was a job best undertaken by homosexuals.”

The favorite meeting place of the SA was a “gay” bar in Munich called the Bratwurstglockl where Roehm kept a reserved table. This was the same tavern where some of the earliest formative meetings of the Nazi Party had been held. At the Bratwurstglockl, Roehm and associates-Edmund Heines, Karl Ernst, Ernst’s partner Captain Rohrbein, Captain Petersdorf, Count Ernst Helldorf and the rest-would meet to plan and strategize. These were the men who orchestrated the Nazi campaign of intimidation and terror. All of them were homosexuals.

Indeed, homosexuality was all that qualified many of these men for their positions in the SA. Heinrich Himmler would later complain of this: “Does it not constitute a danger to the Nazi movement if it can be said that Nazi leaders are chosen for sexual reasons?.” Himmler was not so much opposed to homosexuality itself as to the fact that non- qualified people were given high rank based on their homosexual relations with Roehm and others.

It is interesting to note that Arafat was an ardent admirer of Hitler and it was long tumored he was a homosexual and died of AIDS!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Roehm viewed homosexuality as the basis for a new society. Louis Snyder writes that Roehm “projected a social order in which homosexuality would be regarded as a human behavior pattern of high repute

Isn’t that what is being taught in schools today and supported by so-called human rights courts?

The Supreme Court is a bunch of black robed tyrants

Neiman:  Very interesting post; one covered extensively in Shirer’s Rise and Fall of The Third Reich.

Arafat died at age 75, most likely of normal causes. Had he been an aids victim, the Israeli press would have certainly exposed that fact.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

Jeff Gannon etc.

Neiman:These people are not liberals. They are militant homosexuals.

Neiman:These people are not liberals. They are militant homosexuals.

Militant homosexuals are liberals. Without exception.

The question of sexuality is so complex. There is no doubt that there is a biological component to sexuality. But no human is born with the sexuality they have at 20, 16, or even 12. The desire to breed is in every human, so, without question, homosexuality goes against some biological instincts. Yet certain chemical imbalances may also affect the brain to a degree to where it could change human sexuality. Also, the way we are taught, human interactions, all affect sexuality.
The issue of sexuality is far too complex to be explained as either born that way, or choice.

The issue of sexuality is far too complex to be explained as either born that way, or choice.

Can’t say I totally agree with that, ken.  Sex is like any other of lifes wants (power and wealth are others) that a person can either control or they can allow it to control them thus becoming a perversion.  People that have perversions usually rationalize them by seeking acceptance.  Homosexualitly fits that bill as it tries all too successfully today to become an acceptable mainstream life style.

The Supreme Court is a bunch of black robed tyrants

Militant homosexuals are liberals. Without exception.
Kenny on May 4, 2008 at 02:04 am

That is your oppinion. And you are entitled to it.
I dissagree with you.

I also dissagre with docdave. The notion, that someone wakes up one day (or goes through a long process) and declares that they are homosexual thus inviting the ire of the mainstream (sexualy religiously or otherwise), I find preposterous. Also preposterous is the notion (IMO) that a man wakes up one day, or goes through a long process, and decides to take it ( penis) up in the ass, all the negative feelings of society and the persecution that goes along with it.
There is something there that science has either missed, not yet discoved,or is unable to explain today.

Ellinas:
Are people born with a genetic predispoition towards alcoholism? If so, don’t we as a society say that they must resist that destructive desire for their own good, that of their family and society. It can be argued that some people are born with, only to emerge later, with a genetic predisposition that causes them to have a desire to have sexual intercourse with children, but don’t we demand they resist those perverse impulses for their own good, the good of their victims and the good of society?

The point is that whether there is a genetic component or not, I do not believe there is; homosexual conduct is a clear perversion of natural design, as for instance the rectum and lower intestine is not designed to take repteated lifetime physical abuse by a penis or other foreign objects. Homosexuality is emotionally, physically and I believe spiritually harmful to the people involved, their sexual partners which are usually much greater in number than those of heterosexuals, their families and society as a whole. Thus, just as we would demand that people with genetic predispositions for other aberrant behavior resist those desires for the good of everyone involved, why do you or others insist that homosexuals are an exception to this rule?

Pparets:

Arafat died at age 75, most likely of normal causes. Had he been an aids victim, the Israeli press would have certainly exposed that fact.

That is an assumption on your part, despite the fact there were for many decades rumors of Arafat’s desire for sexual relations with boys, whether he died of AIDS related complications or not. Remember, he lived in a rarified, closed society which would have resulted in death for any Muslim or Arab going on the record. Plus, to defend Arafat you must answer why the cause of his death is a state secret!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Finally, a topic on which overcompensating elinas seems to be qualified as a practicing expert.

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destoyed”

Neiman: 

… despite the fact that there were for many years rumos…

???  Since when has ‘rumor’ become ‘fact’?

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

Sorry.  “rumors”

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

Dear Rodney. Thank you for using your expertise on the subject to recognise the truthfullnes of my statements.

Neiman. I will simply say I dissagree with you on the issue of homosexuality. The idea that their behaviour is destructive I will not oppose.
As for Arafat’s death, I simply do not know so I will defer to the experts on the issue. I will add however that many Muslims had boys( for sexual gratificatioin) in their harems. This is a well documented fact.

Ppaerts:

Since when has ‘rumor’ become ‘fact’?

And exactly when did I say this rumor was fact? Please refresh my memory! I simply mentioned those rumors as I was discussing the homosexual nature of the Third Reich, thinking about Arafat’s public expressions of admiration for Hitler and the latter’s Jewish hatred and how that seemed interesting in light of the rumors of Arafat’s homosexuality. That was the full extent of my comments about the rumors, I never said nor intimated they were fact! Yet, if Arafat did not die of AIDS or AIDS related complications, why would the Palestinians insist that the actual cause of his death be kept a secret? What other reason might there be? Suicide by masturbation while hanging from a rope? Some disease related to a life long love of pork? Revelations he had a Jewish grandmother and he died by Allah’s hand for be a little Kike?

Ellinas:

I will simply say I dissagree with you on the issue of homosexuality

Without saying why you disagree, that statement is absolutely meaningless. I am not trying to be rude, it is simply that without some specifics, your statement seemed to be to be a waste of your time.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman:  Arafat may just as likely have died from syphillis, cirrhosis of the liver [alcoholism], brain tumors or any number of other diseases unacceptable to Islam or the Palestinian state.

I most certainly do not defend Arafta for anything, as you would well know if you actually read any of my posts.  Arafat was a PLO criminal of monstrous proprtions.

Why is the cause of his death a state secret?  Hell if I know.  Why were details of the Kennedy assassination kept secret by our government for many years?  States keep secrets.  Who knows why?

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

Pparets:

Arafat may just as likely have died from syphillis, cirrhosis of the liver [alcoholism], brain tumors or any number of other diseases unacceptable to Islam or the Palestinian state.

Just not AIDS or AIDS related complications, right? Anyway, you completely ignored the fact I made it clear I was not calling these rumors fact and it seems you want to continue your defense of Arafat, Allah only knows why? 

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

A life long love of pork! Hahahahah!!! That is so funny.

Zsa Zsa: I jope Pparets gets this joke! I was just trying to be amusing!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Trichinosis, perhaps?

A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Ya! All the triglycerides and food coloring additives are killer. What a way to go! Perhaps we kind find a way to put some of those ingredients in Figs?

That is your oppinion. And you are entitled to it.
I dissagree with you.

It’s not my opinion. There are no militant conservative homosexuals. They’re all liberals.

So, you can disagree with me, but I’m still right.

Can’t say I totally agree with that, ken.  Sex is like any other of lifes wants (power and wealth are others) that a person can either control or they can allow it to control them thus becoming a perversion.

Kenny, please.

Regardless. Pointing out that a desire can or cannot be controlled doesn’t mean much in figuring out where the desire comes from.

I also dissagre with docdave. The notion, that someone wakes up one day (or goes through a long process) and declares that they are homosexual thus inviting the ire of the mainstream (sexualy religiously or otherwise), I find preposterous. Also preposterous is the notion (IMO) that a man wakes up one day, or goes through a long process, and decides to take it ( penis) up in the ass, all the negative feelings of society and the persecution that goes along with it.

There’s no shortage of people who have tried bisexuality for their partner. It’s so common on college campuses that we kids call it “experimenting”. If we’re going to be glib here, anal sex is pretty stigmatized across the board. Yet, no shortage of women have tried it. A lot of women also think blowjob or getting cummed on are gross, but most still try it. Are we going to say that those aren’t choices simply because they’re stigmatized? How foolish.

That is your oppinion. And you are entitled to it.
I dissagree with you.

It’s not my opinion. There are no militant conservative homosexuals. They’re all liberals.

So, you can disagree with me, but I’m still right.

Can’t say I totally agree with that, ken.  Sex is like any other of lifes wants (power and wealth are others) that a person can either control or they can allow it to control them thus becoming a perversion.

Kenny, please.

Regardless. Pointing out that a desire can or cannot be controlled doesn’t mean much in figuring out where the desire comes from.

I also dissagre with docdave. The notion, that someone wakes up one day (or goes through a long process) and declares that they are homosexual thus inviting the ire of the mainstream (sexualy religiously or otherwise), I find preposterous. Also preposterous is the notion (IMO) that a man wakes up one day, or goes through a long process, and decides to take it ( penis) up in the ass, all the negative feelings of society and the persecution that goes along with it.

There’s no shortage of people who have tried bisexuality for their partner. It’s so common on college campuses that we kids call it “experimenting”. If we’re going to be glib here, anal sex is pretty stigmatized across the board. Yet, no shortage of women have tried it. A lot of women also think blowjob or getting cummed on are gross, but most still try it. Are we going to say that those aren’t choices simply because they’re stigmatized? How foolish.

That is your oppinion. And you are entitled to it.
I dissagree with you.

It’s not my opinion. There are no militant conservative homosexuals. They’re all liberals.

So, you can disagree with me, but I’m still right.

Can’t say I totally agree with that, ken.  Sex is like any other of lifes wants (power and wealth are others) that a person can either control or they can allow it to control them thus becoming a perversion.

Kenny, please.

Regardless. Pointing out that a desire can or cannot be controlled doesn’t mean much in figuring out where the desire comes from.

I also dissagre with docdave. The notion, that someone wakes up one day (or goes through a long process) and declares that they are homosexual thus inviting the ire of the mainstream (sexualy religiously or otherwise), I find preposterous. Also preposterous is the notion (IMO) that a man wakes up one day, or goes through a long process, and decides to take it ( penis) up in the ass, all the negative feelings of society and the persecution that goes along with it.

There’s no shortage of people who have tried bisexuality for their partner. It’s so common on college campuses that we kids call it “experimenting”. If we’re going to be glib here, anal sex is pretty stigmatized across the board. Yet, no shortage of women have tried it. A lot of women also think blowjob or getting cummed on are gross, but most still try it. Are we going to say that those aren’t choices simply because they’re stigmatized? How foolish.

There is something there that science has either missed, not yet discoved,or is unable to explain today.

You got that right.  Science has explained away objective morality.  The intangible, like morality, cannot be adequately addressed by science.  But hey, that won’t stop materialists from declaring “natural explanations” which are naturally impossible.

Neiman.  Good post.  The old / new argument that somehow being a homosexual is determined before birth has not been proven.  Second,

Liberals in general hate Free Speech unless it is Liberal Speech, unless it is liberal speech they have nothing but contempt for the First Amendement.

The free speech lie that liberals/socialists/democrats/communists make is just that, a lie.  As you stated above, they only want their speech protected; any other speech is deemed illegal, censored or racist.

Communism is evil

wow, kenny, a trifecta comment post!!  I guess you were really making a point.  Seriously, I don’t see that we are too distance in our beliefs.  Homosexuality is just sex in all the wrong places.

The Supreme Court is a bunch of black robed tyrants

Once again: I believe that homosexuals are born that way. They are defective human beings. Choice has nothing to do with their sexuality, promiscuity, and dangerous lifestyle. The only choice they have in the matter is to not advertise as to who they are and not try to impose on the rest of us what we find unnacceptible.

Ellinas:

They are defective human beings. Choice has nothing to do with their sexuality, promiscuity, and dangerous lifestyle.

Of course they have a choice, they can choose not to engage in sexual relations with someone of the same gender, no one or no thing is forcing them to engage in intimate homosexual relations. We demand better choices for alcoholics, people whom it can be reasonably argued were born with that pre-disposition, we even have laws against certain dangerous choices they make. If that is true, then surely homosexuals can make better choices and laws can be passed to deal with their more dangerous choices.

I believe that homosexuals are born that way.

You believe it as an article of faith, but that is not science, that is just your emotional response. I suspect that many may, in fact, be born with a predisposition, which predisposition can be changed by making good choices. That doesn’t mean they are bad people, but they have been told by the Left for decades that there is no shame with such behavior and even that it is no different than hetereosexual behavior, so there is little incentive to deal with this perverse lifestyle choice in a less harmful way.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

You believe it as an article of faith, but that is not science, that is just your emotional response. I suspect that many may, in fact, be born with a predisposition, which predisposition can be changed by making good choices.[/b]
Neiman on May 5, 2008 at 06:09 pm