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Monday, March 03, 2008

FIS Follies; the simplified version

Since so many SayAnyThingSinister types are demonstrably reading comprehension challenged, herewith is presented the abridged version of my earlier FIS Follies post just for them.

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Dollars to donuts the telco’s razor sharp packs of attorneys made the Bush administration sign off to indemnify any illegal activity the administration demanded.

Telcos are covered, the administration not so much.

WOOF on March 3, 2008 at 10:39 am

WOOF,

Ah, I see you got the Kevin Drum talking points.  I suspect it will prove to be just as accurate as the “frog marching Karl Rove out of the White House” story was…


Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on March 3, 2008 at 11:06 am

We are still waiting for you to provide that extensive list of American citizens persecuted under the Patriot Act. Till then you don’t have a leg to stand on.


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on March 3, 2008 at 11:19 am

2H9,

Was that before or after WOOF details all those anti- Islamist terrorism and nuclear non-proliferation accomplishments?


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on March 3, 2008 at 11:23 am

I’m not particular as to order. Since they will be coming out of his ass I’ll leave that choice up to him.


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on March 3, 2008 at 11:26 am

2H9,

Not also the long list of substantive comments in opposition to my Why Lawfare is a bad idea XXII: FIS Follies piece.  Seems I was pitching well over their heads.


Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on March 3, 2008 at 11:27 am

Addendum:

Those accomplishments WOOF said he could detail, but hasn’t, were from the time of Bill Clinton’s presidency.

Unlike his predecessor, Mr. Bush has prevented any further attacks against the US, and there have been no new members of the nuclear weapons “club” since Mr. Bush was inaugurated.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on March 3, 2008 at 11:30 am

Rodney,

There’s nothing wrong with your pitching.  The opposition, however, couldn’t hit a softball on a Tee.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on March 3, 2008 at 11:33 am

Those accomplishments WOOF said he could detail, but hasn’t, were from the time of Bill Clinton’s presidency.

While we’re talking about what we’re waiting for, I’m still waiting for that list of “radically rude rightwing things said by Michael Medved, David Limbaugh, Mona Sharen, and Sean Hannity”.


For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of my country.

Kenny on March 3, 2008 at 11:58 am

I’m still waiting for that list of “radically rude rightwing things said by Michael Medved, David Limbaugh, Mona Sharen, and Sean Hannity”.


Excuse me, you were saying?


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realitybasedbob on March 3, 2008 at 12:21 pm

That is some excellent intratubing skills you are exhibiting, boob. What is your point?


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on March 3, 2008 at 12:27 pm

Brandon Mayfield Oregon atty
Madrid bombing

still waiting for you to provide that extensive list of American citizens persecuted under the Patriot Act.

or did they pay him $2,000,000 for being a good sport.

Those accomplishments WOOF said he could detail,

I wrote that?
I’m the go to guy?
I’ll do some research.

WOOF on March 3, 2008 at 12:42 pm

Drum cites attys who actually work in the industry. Maybe they know how the machine operates?

WOOF on March 3, 2008 at 12:46 pm

Sadly WOOF’s research has naught to do with FIS and the Terrorist Surveillance Program.  There’s a case there against the FBI concerning their finger print “matching,” but not a damn thing on the point of this thread.


Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on March 3, 2008 at 12:51 pm

Still waiting for that extensive list.

As to your lawyer, this,"Due to the misidentification by the FBI of a fingerprint” from US District Court Oregon. Exactly how did the Patriot Act or FISA cause the FBI and Spanish authorities to finger the wrong person? No soap, sweety. Try again.


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on March 3, 2008 at 12:53 pm

The FBI searched Mayfield’s house under a FISA sneak and peek warrant. (is that a Clinton era law?), obtained bank phone etc records using patriot act national security letters.

WOOF on March 3, 2008 at 01:15 pm

Jose American Citizen Padilla

then

The Justice Department’s inspector general looked at the FBI’s use of national security letters, in which agents demand personal and business information about individuals—such as financial, phone, and Internet records—without court orders.

The audit found the letters were issued without proper authority, cited incorrect statutes or obtained information they weren’t supposed to.

As many as 22 percent of national security letters were not recorded, the audit said.

“We concluded that many of the problems we identified constituted serious misuse of the FBI’s national security letter authorities,” Inspector General Glenn A. Fine said in the report.

The way you do the things you do.

WOOF on March 3, 2008 at 01:28 pm

The FBI searched Mayfield’s house under a FISA sneak and peek warrant. (is that a Clinton era law?)…

WOOF,

You’re kidding, right?  FISA became law is 1978.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on March 3, 2008 at 01:29 pm

Telcos are covered, the administration not so much.

WOOF,

What sort of nonsense is this?  If what you say is true, then why won’t Pelosi let the the House vote?  The Senate passed the bill with a pretty hefty bi-partisan majority.  And no one has even intimated that the bill wouldn’t pass the House.  So why no vote?


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on March 3, 2008 at 01:33 pm

Jose Convicted Terrorist Padilla. Yea, we remember him. As for your lawyer, once it was clear he was the wrong one they stopped. That ain’t persecution. Keep swinging, loser.


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on March 3, 2008 at 01:38 pm
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