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Thursday, May 31, 2007

Dutch shock over gay AIDS rape gang

A gay gang that allegedly raped victims lured on the Internet, drugged them and infected them with the AIDS virus has shocked the Netherlands and raised questions over its liberal sex culture.

Health Minister Ab Klink on Thursday called the case “horrible”, as the press splashed the news across its front pages.

The matter came to light Wednesday, when police said they had arrested three seropositive homosexual men two weeks ago after four victims, men aged 25 to 50, accused them of rape and premeditated bodily harm.

Ronald Zwarter, the police chief in the northern town of Groningen, where the alleged crimes took place, said two of those arrested, a couple aged 48 and 33, had confessed.

“Their stated motive was that it excited them—and also that, the more HIV-infected people there were, the better their chances of unprotected sex,” he said.

“They considered unprotected relations to be ‘pure’.”

A fourth man who allegedly supplied the three suspects with several litres of the date-rape drug GHB and ecstasy tablets was also arrested.

The gang risks up to 16 years in prison.

According to police and prosecutors, eight more victims have come forward since the case was publicised.

Officials said the three seropositive men invited gays contacted on the Internet to private homosexual orgies.

When the victims turned up, they were allegedly given ecstasy and GBH (which is undetectable when mixed in drinks), leaving them helpless and, in some cases, with no memory of what happened.

The three suspects—one of whom is a male nurse—were said to have raped the men, and even injected some of them with a mix of their contaminated blood.

The case has deeply unsettled the Netherlands, and caused it to cast a hard look at its easygoing views on sex, with some figures suggesting that frequent homosexual orgies posed a public health risk.

“That homos organise orgies is nothing new, but this is something else. This is unimaginable,” said Frank van Dalen, the president of a gay rights group called COC.

He stressed that the illegal use of GHB (gamma-Hydroxybutyric acid)—known on the street by such nicknames as “Easy Lay, “Gay Home Boy” and “Liquid Ecstasy”—also posed a danger in heterosexual circles.

Said Henk Krol, the editor of a homosexual magazine titled Gaykrant: “These people were drugged, it’s therefore rape, pure and simple. It’s shameful, disgusting and terrifying. Those who did this are crazy.”

Health officials pointed to a recent rise in the number of HIV infections in Groningen—from 14 in 2005 to 25 last year, out of the town’s total population of 185,000—as significant.

“This doesn’t mean that the rise is entirely explained by the orgies… but it’s probable that part of the rise has been caused by them,” Marco Ter Harmsel, of Grongingen’s municipal health service, told the Dutch newspaper DRC.

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It’s nice to see gay rights groups admit that there is something morally different about homosexuality by noting “that homos organise orgies is nothing new”, but it’s shocking to see that the penalty for premeditated rape resulting in AIDS transmission is only 16 years.  May I suggest the death penalty for this?

It’s also worth noting that the street names for the drugs involved suggest that they are disproportionately used for this purpose by the homosexual community.

Robert Perry on May 31, 2007 at 12:13 pm
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Purposefully giving someone a fatal disease, even if death can be postponed through medical treatment, is murder in my book.  I don’t support the death penalty, but I would support a murder charge in this instance with life in prison as the sentence.

And while I’m not one to make moral judgments about what sort of sexual activities a given group of consenting adults get up too, there’s no doubting that promiscuous activity like orgies is, well, just plain irresponsible.

Personally, I’m not much in favor of using tax dollars to treat people who got AIDS because of their own irresponsible behavior.  If you won’t act to protect yourself, why should I pay to protect you from the consequences of your own actions?


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Rob on May 31, 2007 at 12:20 pm
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Personally, I’m not much in favor of using tax dollars to treat people who got AIDS because of their own irresponsible behavior.  If you won’t act to protect yourself, why should I pay to protect you from the consequences of your own actions?

Ok, Rob, I’m just looking for some clarification here...how about those who contacted Aids through blood transfusions, babies with infected mothers, people with cheating spouses who by chance infected them without their knowledge, or, hypothetically, a guy who steps on some drug addict’s needle and winds up inadvertently infected?  While I totally agree with personal responsibility, can you dismiss public funding quite so simplistically? (and after re-reading your comments, I’m not even sure if you did, that’s why I’m asking for the clarification)…
DeuceSoliloquy on May 31, 2007 at 12:34 pm
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You never get this impression from the media but here in the US it is still mainly men who get AIDS (74%) and of those men 74% get aids through male to male contact and sharing needles. Adding to that the men who get aids through sharing needles only brings the percentage to 87%.

Only 15% of men get aids though heterosexual contact, probably from women who got aids from a bi-sexual man who got it though homosexual contact.

The numbers don’t lie;

Sex of adults and adolescents with HIV/AIDS diagnosed during 2005
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Transmission categories of adults and adolescents with HIV/AIDS diagnosed during 2005
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Gay men are still the biggest problem with AIDS here in the US.

Jesse on May 31, 2007 at 06:56 pm

Purposefully giving someone a fatal disease, even if death can be postponed through medical treatment, is murder in my book.  I don’t support the death penalty, but I would support a murder charge in this instance with life in prison as the sentence.

I’m with Rob. What does Am*dam expect? They have giant erect penis fountains in that city! I bit much perhaps… don’t get me wrong, I am not a fan of Victorian/Christian repression, but Am*dam has gone too far in the other direction. PS - Its fun there.


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Sparkie Arbuckle on June 2, 2007 at 01:03 pm
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@ Robert Perry - Yeah, ‘cause straight people don’t organize orgies or nothing, right? Moron, you’re gayer than Liberace.

ZombieSlapper on August 25, 2008 at 10:41 pm
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@ Robert Perry - Yeah, ‘cause straight people don’t organize orgies or nothing, right? Moron, you’re gayer than Liberace.

ZombieSlapper on August 25, 2008 at 10:41 pm
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