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Monday, March 31, 2008

“Conservatives Love War”

... is the mindless, hate filled calumny we conservatives have heard on more than one occasion. Typically, the charge is leveled by some effete twit who has had absolutely no contact with military service or the men who fill her ranks.

Here is one such conservative voice on his love of war:
Unless you are a veteran you might find it odd that I would be indebted to the Navy for sending me to war. You might mistakenly conclude that the secret veterans’ share is that they enjoyed war.

We do share a secret, but it is not a romantic remembrance of war. War is awful. When nations seek to resolve their differences by force of arms, a million tragedies ensue. Nothing, not the valor with which it is fought nor the nobility of the cause it serves, can glorify war. War is wretched beyond description. Whatever gains are secured by war, it is loss that the veteran remembers. Only a fool or a fraud sentimentalizes the cruel and merciless reality of war.

Neither do we share a nostalgia for the exhilaration of combat. That exhilaration, after all, is really the sensation of choking back fear. I think we are all proud to have once overcome the paralysis of terror. But few of us are so removed from the memory of that terror to mistake it today for a welcome thrill.

What we share is something harder to explain. It is in part a pride for having sacrificed together for a cause greater than our individual pursuits; pride for having your courage and honor tested and affirmed in a fearsome moment of history; pride for having replaced comfort and security with misery and deprivation and not been broken by the experience.

We also share—and this is harder to explain—the survivors’ humility. That’s a provocative statement, I know, and the non-veteran may easily mistake its meaning. I am not talking about shame. I know of no shame in surviving combat. But every combat veteran remembers those comrades whose sacrifice was eternal. Their loss taught us everything about tragedy and everything about duty.


-John McCain: Statement Before the Veterans of Foreign Wars (excerpt)

March 7, 1995

Maybe some other twit could call him an “opportunist” and make our day complete!
Cross Posted at Proof Positive

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Jews enjoy war.

Just
Enjoys
War

Go ahead Neiman call me an anti-Semite yet again.

WETBACK on April 1, 2008 at 02:32 pm

It is in part a pride for having sacrificed together for a cause greater than our individual pursuits;—Commie McCain

He’s sounding like a Stalinist now. Idiot “conservatives” claim they are all for individuality, then they trot out this commie claptrap. Collectivist when it satiates their war-lust, and when there is money up for grabs, suddenly claim to be for individualism again.


“All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.”
“Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.” —George Orwell

Angry Vertebrate on April 1, 2008 at 03:34 pm

Heheheh at least you kinda sound like an anarchist now, AV.

Ken McCracken on April 1, 2008 at 03:43 pm
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He’s sounding like a Stalinist now.

Remarks like that don’t make you sound any smarter, veggieburger!



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Proof on April 1, 2008 at 03:47 pm

Thanks Ken, I just thought I was sounding like an ass.  smile

Proof, surely you see the hypocrisy?


“All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.”
“Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.” —George Orwell

Angry Vertebrate on April 1, 2008 at 04:03 pm

Thanks Ken, I just thought I was sounding like an ass.

Welcome to my world.

Ken McCracken on April 1, 2008 at 04:12 pm
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The “greater cause” is not collectivist at all, at least not in the Stalinist sense! Too much protein deprivation has rotted your brain, AV! Have a cheeseburger!



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Proof on April 1, 2008 at 04:23 pm

Fighting for your country/religion/dear-leader, whatever, is collectivist.

And motivated by the “greater cause” is always collectivist.

Plus my protein levels are just fine.


“All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.”
“Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.” —George Orwell

Angry Vertebrate on April 1, 2008 at 06:20 pm
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