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Sunday, October 15, 2006

Captain Obvious on Traffic Tickets

Study: Traffic Tickets Rise as City Income Falls

The Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis did this study.  You can read the entire study available on the link if you wish.

A Federal Reserve Bank of Saint Louis working paper concludes that municipalities use traffic tickets as a means of supplanting falling local revenue. Economist Thomas A. Garrett and University of Arkansas at Little Rock Professor Gary A. Wagner explain that although there is ample anecdotal evidence to show that this is the case, no empirical studies have ever examined the question in detail.

Using county-level data from North Carolina between 1989 and 2003, the working paper analysis takes into account demographic factors such as population and traffic growth that could influence the number of tickets written for offenses such as speeding, failure to yield and following too closely. Some counties issued as many as one ticket for every resident, while the average was closer to one ticket for every ten residents.

Garrett and Wagner found that for each one-percent drop in local government revenue there followed a .38 percent increase in the number of tickets written, each worth between $5 and $250. When local revenue increased, however, there was no corresponding decrease in the number of citations issued.

“The fact that local governments increase traffic tickets during periods of revenue decreases but do not decrease traffic tickets in response to revenue increases reveals some degree of revenue maximization on the part of local governments,” the authors concluded.

Traffic tickets should be about safety and not about raising money.  Pressure should not be put on the cops to go out and earn your salary or else.

My town of Grand Forks did this some time ago.  They jacked up fines in order to meet a budget shortfall.

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My town installed red light cameras about a year ago.  All in the name of ‘safety’ mind you.  They even split the revenue generated with the company that provides the equipment.  That really irks me.

gregdn on October 15, 2006 at 12:43 pm

I’d be interested to see their traffic accident stats for the same period. I’m not convinced that increased tickets = decreased accidents. If it does, then you have some justification. If it doesn’t, you have harrasment for the sake of revenue.


The future ain’t what it used to be.....

Pilgrim on October 15, 2006 at 02:00 pm

gregdn said, My town installed red light cameras about a year ago.  All in the name of ‘safety’ mind you.  They even split the revenue generated with the company that provides the equipment.

Shitty deal. I’ve read before that in some Texan cities around the Dallas area, the red light run/clip is a 200 dollar ticket. 50 goes to the government while 150 goes to the company who installed the equipment. Street corners have signs that say something along the lines of, “13,049 tickets issued since 2001"* or whatever year it is. That’s how it was Plano area north of Dallas when I was last there in August 2001.

Red light cameras are dangerous marriage of corporation and state with a high potential for abuse and shady dealings. Roads aren’t supposed to be moneymakers for the government. It’s not a business.

*This is not an exaggeration. I was shocked at how high each number was. It was not uncommon to see 13 thousand on one side and 11 thousand on another. Less busy corners would have numbers in the low thousands, all for a half year. I was told by residents there that they would change the signs every couple of months or so.

likwidshoe on October 15, 2006 at 02:21 pm

I’ve seen stories which prove that the red light camera’s result in more rear end collisions.

They’re a fraud perpetrated by dishonest politicians so they can extort more money out of the public.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on October 15, 2006 at 03:05 pm

My husband keeps getting my daughters tickets for the EZ tag toll booth thing in Houston in the mail. So we finally got her an EZ tag. What a brat!

Zsa Zsa on October 15, 2006 at 03:25 pm

I’m not sure what exactly that is, but it sure sounds like’s she’s got you guys figured out.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on October 15, 2006 at 03:34 pm

An EZ tag is a tag on your car so you don’t have to stop and pay at the toll booth. You pay it prior. Well she did not have an EZ tag or toll money so she just went through it and it cost $40 bucks everytime she does it because the camera shows her tag. It is registered to us so we get the ticket and her daddy pays for them…

Zsa Zsa on October 15, 2006 at 03:48 pm

My kids are too little to drive yet.  But I’m sure I’ll have my fun when the time comes.

smile


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on October 15, 2006 at 04:10 pm

I’m sure you have toll roads because your taxes are so low?  We pay for our roads with the gas tax and vehicle registration (generally well under $100/yr)


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on October 15, 2006 at 04:16 pm

The toll road I am speaking of is the Sam Houston Toll way. There are other ways to go. BUT she is a brat and her daddy spoils her. Our son would never have done that. Especially twice!

Zsa Zsa on October 15, 2006 at 04:23 pm

If the only laws we passed were those outlawing actions that directly usurp people’s rights, we wouldn’t have this problem.

Dave_Comet on October 15, 2006 at 09:29 pm
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We have a toll road here in Kansas City.  About once a year you get a speeding ticket for driving the same speed as everyone else.  You can get rid of it by paying $200 instead of $100.  I’ve been pulled over before when going slower than the rest of traffic because I was the last car in line and easier to pull out behind.  No increase in safety, just tax collectors with radar guns.  Funny how they do nothing that go 40mph down my residential street…

electnixon on October 16, 2006 at 06:06 am
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Street Legal Inc. was my savior for these crazy traffic tickets that I received a couple months back. I got the traffic tickets in Napanee, while visiting family. When I found out that I’d have to go all the way back to napanee to file my forms, and for my court date I was mad! I would have to take days off work for this. My traffic tickets were for speeding and disobeying a no turning sign! For a very reasonable price the agents at street legal went for me, so I didn’t miss work, and fought and won my tickets! Call these guys for your traffic tickets- trust me, you’ll be happy you did! 416-601-1LAW (1529)

John on December 12, 2007 at 09:29 am
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