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Friday, March 16, 2007

Can’t Win

Muslim’s don’t like pigs, right? So a school in England though… “Hey, let’s change the ‘Three Little Pigs’ to the ‘Three Little Puppies’.

Story Here

The Honley Church of England Junior School in Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, decided that since pigs are offensive to Muslims, it should rework the classic tale and call it “The Three Little Puppies” instead, according to the Daily Mail of London.


Did it work? Did the act of capitulation make Muslims feel more at home?

Islamic leaders, however, condemned the move as misguided and said decisions like this were turning Muslims into “misfits” in society.


The moral? Changing everything in an attempt to NOT offend is, perhaps, MORE offensive than not changing…

This line of thinking:

“We have to be sensitive if we want to be multi-cultural. It was felt it would be more responsible not to use the three little pigs,” said committee member Gill Goodswen, head teacher of Stile Common Junior School.
is likely to do more harm than good, but is indicative of the left’s desire to make sure that no one has hurt feelings.

Morons!

Comments

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Muslim’s don’t like pigs

Or grammar, apparently.
Dave on March 16, 2007 at 10:26 am

yeah yeah...I apologize for the possessive apostrophe.

Me’s bad…

Seth Yantiss on March 16, 2007 at 10:35 am

This ultra PC age we seem to be living in does my head in sometimes. Blackboards in school are now chalkboards; no more blackmail - only extortion; the rhyme ‘Baa Baa Black Sheep’ has changed to ‘White Sheep’; some schools in the UK no longer hold Nativity plays - they have winter festivals.

Apparently...

...the concept was thought up by a group of intellectuals who came together to form the “Frankfurt School” in 1923.  They developed “Cultural Marxism” and “Critical Theory”. The institute was modelled on the Marx-Engels Institute in Moscow.  In 1933 the members of the Frankfurt School moved to the United States and eventually spread out onto the campuses of American Colleges.  These intellectual Marxists included Herbert Marcuse who coined the phrase, “Make Love Not War” during the anti-Vietnam demonstrations.


(From:http://www.capc.co.uk/faqs.htm)
So Marxists then!

Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on March 16, 2007 at 11:54 am

So Marxists then!

Well...yes!  Many of us have been saying this for a long time.  Right now, the Marxists are supporting the terrorists in order to facilitate the destruction, by violence, of the Free People who can’t be defeated by any other means.  After all, our ideology actually works.  Lenin figured this out a long time ago.  The West can only be defeated by subversion, not by direct confrontation.  This crap has been going on since the Twenties.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on March 16, 2007 at 11:58 am

Very angry, aren’t you?


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on March 16, 2007 at 12:02 pm

...the concept was thought up by a group of intellectuals who came together to form the “Frankfurt School” in 1923.  They developed “Cultural Marxism” and “Critical Theory”.

Another part of the cultural Marxism is grouping people into separate groups and pitting them against each other. Instead of simply stoking class warfare by pitting “the rich” against “the poor”, they group by sexuality, gender, race, and cultural. Basically all of the things that the cultural Marxists (AKA those who are “politically correct") tell us aren’t important.

likwidshoe on March 16, 2007 at 12:11 pm

Another part of the cultural Marxism is grouping people into separate groups and pitting them against each other.

The crux of sociology (which seeks to identify all the social groupings), so we become less prejudiced, but more often results in more prejudice.


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on March 16, 2007 at 12:19 pm

Very angry, aren’t you?

Maybe the angry one is the one making the ad hominem response, in lieu of anything substantive.

Anyone with a brain would know that “identifying all social groupings” is the necessary first step to prejudice. It presupposes a significance to social groupings.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on March 16, 2007 at 12:35 pm

I disagree, one only has to identify one other social grouping to be prejudiced, thus it is the most ignorant who are often the most prejudiced.

I’m quite happy, thankyou!


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on March 16, 2007 at 12:40 pm

Muslim’s don’t like pigs, right?

Neither do Jews, orthodox Christians and other people who follow the Old Testament strictly. Judaism, Islam and Christianity all share the same Prophets.


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on March 16, 2007 at 12:45 pm

Non-responsive.  My point was that the act of identifying social groupings(as if they had any significance) is the first step to prejudice.  One still has the choice not to be prejudiced, but knowledge of “social groupings” is necessary for prejudice to exist.  You describe people who are prejudiced as “ignorant”, but they are not ignorant of group identity, are they?  You just have a prejudice against those who make different choices from yours.

Why does the “happy” man see anger where it doesn’t exist?
I have no concern for your feelings, nor do I ask you to have concern for mine.  Just tell the truth.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on March 16, 2007 at 12:46 pm

Neither do Jews, orthodox Christians and other people who follow the Old Testament strictly. Judaism, Islam and Christianity all share the same Prophets.

Why do you avoid answering the question, which was whether or not Muslims liked pigs?  What does it matter if anyone else doesn’t like pigs, either?  Are you defending something?


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on March 16, 2007 at 12:54 pm

Marx, as Likwid notes, determined that subversion was the only way to destroy the west.  His philosophy was to destroy the family and the social groupings that bound society.  His theories hold value in that society tries to group people by differences.  In this thread there are several examples of groupings where none were intended.

Robert108 groups people by those “having a brain” or the converse. (this is just an example, don’t get miffed)

It’s a natural function for us to group people, actions, things, etc… It’s not possible to talk about trends or preference without talking about groups.

We get into problems with grouping when we prejudge a person into a group prior to observing something that places them in that group. 

Thus, grouping is fine, as long as it is used in the proper context.

Seth Yantiss on March 16, 2007 at 12:57 pm

I disagree, one only has to identify one other social grouping to be prejudiced, thus it is the most ignorant who are often the most prejudiced.

...because these ignorant people are prejudiced about everyone but their own. These people only need knowledge of their own social group, everything else is alien.

I endeavour to be as unprejudiced as possible and to understand all points of view in any given situation.
Entering into debate is one way of identifying these points of view.
Your responses to my comments often seem fuelled with prejudice, which can be misconstrued as anger. Perhaps impatience would be more valid.


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on March 16, 2007 at 01:03 pm

Starting the sentence with ‘neither’ implies that the original question was true.


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on March 16, 2007 at 01:08 pm

Seth Yantiss notes, We get into problems with grouping when we prejudge a person into a group prior to observing something that places them in that group.

Problems also occur when the person gives up his individual power and lets the group speak for him. (By using masculine pronouns, I probably just pissed off the feminist groups.) In that case, one loses his individuality and is often pressured to accept the consensus group opinion. We can witness what happens to gays or even blacks who are considered conservatives and thereby bucking their assigned group consensus. Those individuals get ostracized and marginalized by their assigned group. They get called traitors.

Furthermore, when a specific group has problems that need to be worked out, they often attribute those problems to individuals. You see, the group only attributes statements and actions to itself that it agrees with or benefits from. But something like Islamic terrorism? Oh,..those are individual acts.

likwidshoe on March 16, 2007 at 01:12 pm

Marx, as Likwid notes, determined that subversion was the only way to destroy the west.

I thought Marx believed the West would destroy itself and ‘evolve’ into a marxist scenario since that’s what he believed. I guess maybe what he believed WASN’t WHat He BElieved?


rasberry

Sparkie Arbuckle on March 16, 2007 at 01:17 pm

I thought Marx believed the West would destroy itself and ‘evolve’

Yeah, but after that initial push from the old line communists, look who kept the boat afloat. They’re Westerners.

We’ll end up committing national and cultural suicide. The decay has already set in.

likwidshoe on March 16, 2007 at 01:20 pm

R108 -

Why do you avoid answering the question, which was whether or not Muslims liked pigs?  What does it matter if anyone else doesn’t like pigs, either?  Are you defending something?

I was quite close to rolling on the ground with that.  You do take pride in being obnoxious, don’t you smile

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In case you missed it, you should read this passage from Likwid again.

Seth Yantiss on March 16, 2007 at 01:25 pm

I guess maybe what he believed WASN’t WHat He BElieved?

Why the weird capitalizations?

Seth Yantiss on March 16, 2007 at 01:27 pm

It was Lenin who determined that subversion was the only way to destroy the West.  Marx believed capitalism would “evolve” into communism.  Just one more thing he got wrong.

Your responses to my comments often seem fuelled with prejudice, From your point of view.  I dislike those who distort or abandon the truth, which you may regard as “prejudice” if you wish, but you would be inaccurate in doing that. which can be misconstrued as anger. Perhaps impatience would be more valid. Neither of your inferences is valid.  I just dislike untruth.  Nothing personal from me, but it’s all personal with you, right?


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on March 16, 2007 at 01:29 pm
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rob 108 long time no hear,yet still the same :when it suites you it is fine ,but when it does not it is not.Loook if you smell of SHIT don’t critisize others who do too,or in other words : if your house is made of Glass do not throw stones at other people’s houses.

If you are American then you must know of EQUALITY,so the law that apply to others must apply to YOU.

lisa on March 16, 2007 at 01:30 pm

It was Lenin who determined that subversion was the only way to destroy the West.  Marx believed capitalism would “evolve” into communism.

I stand corrected.  Thank you!

Is Lisa an ex-girlfriend or something?

Seth Yantiss on March 16, 2007 at 01:32 pm

lisa: I don’t know who you are, or what you are speaking about. If this is anything other than simply a personal attack, explain yourself.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on March 16, 2007 at 01:38 pm

I was quite close to rolling on the ground with that.  You do take pride in being obnoxious, don’t you smile

My question was directed at “Man”, btw.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on March 16, 2007 at 01:46 pm

My question was directed at “Man”, btw.

I know… but are you saying that I can’t call you obnoxious when I see it?

It was funny as hell!  Don’t take my comments poorly, man… You should know me better than to take it personally. (though it has been a while since I’ve commented)

Seth Yantiss on March 16, 2007 at 02:00 pm
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the pig and Monkey story is not as it was made to be beleived. It does not say that ALL Jews and Christians are Monkeys or pigs, but that God turned the ones that blasphemed and hated jesus and moses at their times. Their were no Mohammed or Koran then.
Any way don’t see what the problem is when Judaism calls ALL non Jews + (Christians) SUB HUMAN ANIMALS. Also the Athiests say ALL people are APES.

lisa on March 16, 2007 at 02:03 pm

Oh this should be fun!

the pig and Monkey story is not as it was made to be beleived.

What?

It does not say that ALL Jews and Christians are Monkeys or pigs, but that God turned the ones that blasphemed and hated jesus and moses at their times.

What?? What??

Their were no Mohammed or Koran then.

Ahhh… You don’t read or write English well, correct?

Any way don’t see what the problem is when Judaism calls ALL non Jews + (Christians) SUB HUMAN ANIMALS.

I don’t recall reading that in the Old Testament.  Where are you getting this from?

Also the Athiests say ALL people are APES.

Not true.  Atheists tend to believe that Darwin’s theories apply to Man as well as beast and that Man is descended from an ape like ancestor.  They don’t believe that Man is an ape.

Seth Yantiss on March 16, 2007 at 02:18 pm

SY: What was the “obnoxious” part?


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on March 16, 2007 at 02:35 pm

Why do you avoid answering the question, which was whether or not Muslims liked pigs?  What does it matter if anyone else doesn’t like pigs, either?  Are you defending something?

I thought he was just pointing out that Jew’s also held a special disdain for pigs… not just “Muslims”.  The school changed the book title for Muslims, but not for Jews, which is an interesting point.

Technically, I know of no rules for Christians regarding pigs.  When Christ fulfilled the ‘law’ the kosher rules were discontinued…

Seth Yantiss on March 16, 2007 at 02:47 pm
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Same shit,so it would have been ok to have said that Jews and Christians are descendants of APES ???.

Here baby,from the Horse’s mouth :

“ ALL gentile (Christians) children are ANIMALS “(Yebamoth 98a )this is from one of the maney Jewish books that are kept from the Dummmmm Christians.

According to Rabbi Meir Kahane who told CBS news that ARABS ARE DOGS is DERIVED from the TALMUD ( another jewish religious book ).

“ ye are called man ( adam) but gentiles are not called man’ (EZEKIEL 34:31 )

“ you are called men, but the idolaters are not called men” (EZEKIEL 34:31)

Plenty more where that came from,of different kind of hate.

Every one go to the site of http://www.RevisionistHistory.org. by Michael hoffman, formost scholar of judaism.

Oh if you are a jew carfull because according to the Talmud (Berakoth 58a ) teaches that any Jew who REVEALS this Talmudic Teaching about NON JEWS....DESERVES DEATH.

the difference between Islamic Violence and Jewish Violence is that muslims do NOT hide their feelings or teachings because they are proud to know that they learnt it from their father religion Judaism.

lisa on March 16, 2007 at 02:57 pm

Who is this goofy be’atch and what the fuck is she babbling about.


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on March 16, 2007 at 03:03 pm

In Rob’s absence I’m making an executive decision and putting 2H9 in charge to monitor this Lisa woman.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on March 16, 2007 at 03:07 pm
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Ezekiel 34:31 And ye my flock, the flock of my pasture, are men, and I am your God, saith the Lord GOD.

Lisa, What are you smokin’?

If you’re going to quote Scripture, try ‘cut and paste’.

HG on March 16, 2007 at 03:13 pm

I just did a quick (Not quick enough, HG) online search of Ezekiel 34:31:

And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

-KJV

That’s it! I don’t know what Bible lisa is reading from, but Ezekiel 34 doesn’t talk about Gentiles at all! It talks about God’s people, who are referred to as his flock and the shepherds, who are the religious leaders. All Jews from what I can tell! v.28 refers to “heathens” obliquely

“And they shall no more be a prey to the heathen,”

but only insofar as they affect “the flock”.

Dunno where lisa’s coming from!



A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on March 16, 2007 at 03:16 pm

OH, HELL NO!!! It deserves getting smacked by everyone, I am just vectoring different lines of fire. I don’t do the babysat thang!


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2Hotel9 on March 16, 2007 at 03:17 pm

I apologize for the dyslexia…

34:31. And you my flocks, the flocks of my pasture are men: and I am the Lord your God, saith the Lord God.

Vos autem greges mei greges pascuae meae homines estis et ego Dominus Deus vester dicit Dominus Deus



A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on March 16, 2007 at 03:20 pm

The school changed the book title for
Muslims, but not for Jews, which is an interesting point.

I suppose that might be because Jews aren’t threatening to cut off anyone’s head over such trivial matters.  Maybe.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on March 16, 2007 at 03:37 pm

I am shamed! Not one of y’all recognize that qoute? Come on! I know where she got this bit-o Biblical Trivia.


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on March 16, 2007 at 03:48 pm

OH, HELL NO!!! It deserves getting smacked by everyone, I am just vectoring different lines of fire. I don’t do the babysat thang!

Too effing bad, Rob left me in charge.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on March 16, 2007 at 04:04 pm
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POOFF why don’t you FINISH the sentence after ....my pasture are men..ye are called men but gentiles are Not called men (EZ 34:31)

What ever you are trying to hide shall come to light and let other people search and know the truth as i did.

lisa on March 16, 2007 at 04:19 pm

Oh well, what the hell! I’m gonna be here all weekend. We are having what some consider a “significant” snow event, and I ain’t going to make it down for the American’s Rally at the Wall.


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on March 16, 2007 at 04:29 pm
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Whistler you are scaring me ,cause you just said something AIPAC would have done to non obedient American Presidents and civilians who threaten their Idiology “ Monitoring me!”.

Hotel can you please correct me and tell me which biblical trivia i got that from, at least you admit it is Biblical!!

lisa on March 16, 2007 at 04:29 pm

Ummm, “if you don’t want to be “monitored” then don’t post stuff on a public board” I always say.

I think you kinda blow your expectation of privacy when you do things like that.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on March 16, 2007 at 04:31 pm

why don’t you FINISH the sentence after ....my pasture are men..ye are called men but gentiles are Not called men (EZ 34:31)

31 “You are My flock, the flock of My pasture; you are men, and I am your God,” says the Lord GOD.-NKJV

Sorry, lisa! No Gentiles!



A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on March 16, 2007 at 04:35 pm

29 I will raise up for them a garden of renown, and they shall no longer be consumed with hunger in the land, nor bear the shame of the Gentiles anymore. -NKJV

talks about the Jews not bearing

the shame of the Gentiles

. It says nothing about Gentiles not being men...they’re just not His men!


A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on March 16, 2007 at 04:42 pm

GB(lisa) you got that quote from the movie Pulp Fiction. And I plan to introduce spark to this conversation, he can cut the legs out from under fake Bible qouters faster than any atheist I know.


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on March 16, 2007 at 04:48 pm

I’m sorry Robert108 if you took

Very angry, aren’t you?

as a personal attack. I forgot smile
My comment was based on

This crap has been going on since the Twenties.

Maybe I was a little emotive, see .


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on March 16, 2007 at 06:52 pm

Not there. Here.


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on March 16, 2007 at 06:54 pm

That Lisa was a bit weird.


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on March 16, 2007 at 06:56 pm

We get trolls of every flavor here. There are people out in the world that call sayanything a collection of leftwing moonbats. Who’d a thunk it?


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2Hotel9 on March 16, 2007 at 07:55 pm

Calling subversive communism “crap” isn’t anger, it’s truth.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on March 17, 2007 at 12:41 am

Neither do Jews, orthodox Christians and other people who follow the Old Testament strictly. Judaism, Islam and Christianity all share the same Prophets.

I did mean to point out that Jews will eat of pigs after they have been properly prepared.  Muslims expend great amounts of energy to avoid any physical contact with the animal.  There is a bit of a difference there.

Seth Yantiss on March 17, 2007 at 10:12 am
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Hotel just to let you know , i’ve never seen this film Pulp fiction only advertising clips of it. That is something YOU would watch perhapes as i heard it is weid like you.

As for you fire head calling me weird cause you are so Loser.either research these evil books or even beter speak to michael hoffman ( a formost scolar of judaism who will shut all of your Gubs. Being a jew ,can’t get any nearer to the truth than him.

He will wipe the floor with you Wackos.

lisa on March 17, 2007 at 03:34 pm

Sorry Lisa, I just mean’t the language you use is odd. Your nationality? Knowing that might help towards my understanding of your position? Wacko is not generally a name one would apply to people engaging in reasoned discussion, rather to mad or eccentric people.


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on March 17, 2007 at 03:44 pm
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Fire head before or after 1997 Israel and iran were NEVER NEVER freinds, so it does not matter.Drrrrrrr!

Hotel Any one giving any quotes from any thing CAN be checked, unless some one dum like you who speaks before he thinks.Do not behave like your POOFF freind who 1/2 quotes verses to save his ASS.

lisa on March 17, 2007 at 03:45 pm

to save his ASS

And a very nice ass it is, too! Thank you for noticing!


A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on March 17, 2007 at 03:53 pm
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My nationality should not be of any concern to you, but i bet you i can speak more languages than you. Let me say that i come from a country that i can trace my ancestors for thousands of years.

David Korish was a wacko and he had 100’s of followers , Hitler, Saddam,Begin ..etc were all wackos. usually you can spot them from their thouhgts and conversations.

lisa on March 17, 2007 at 03:58 pm

Lisa, my apologies. Please forgive me. I mistakenly accussed you of being a human being. You have openned my eyes! Your profound and well thoughtout whitesupremist shit has alerted me to the fact you are just another braindead, leftarded, neo-naziwannabe.

Gang, go checkout this link it throws, The voice of NAZI apologists worldwide.

My monitoring time is done. I declare this troll a freefirezone. Have at, kids.


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2Hotel9 on March 17, 2007 at 04:05 pm

Fire head before or after 1997 Israel and iran were NEVER NEVER freinds, so it does not matter

Yes, Israel and Iran were enemies before and after 1997, but that wasn’t the question. I asked if it was before or after 1979. Before 1979, there were strong links between the two countries and it is theoretically possible that Israel sold chemical weapons to Iran.
Their relations were so good that the two governments’ armed forces were collaborating on a missile development programme called Project Flower.
However, after the Islamic Revolution, in 1979, the new Iranian government withdrew recognition of the state of Israel and severed all official relations. Post 1979, Israel would not have supplied Iran with anything which could be used as weapons.


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on March 17, 2007 at 04:07 pm

but i bet you i can speak more languages than you.

I bet she can be wrong in ALL of them!



A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on March 17, 2007 at 04:07 pm

David Koresh was a wacko ...as is Michael A Hoffman … usually you can spot them from their thoughts and conversations.

This debate is not about one-upmanship, Lisa, but about reasoned reparte.


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on March 17, 2007 at 04:34 pm

Jill of all tongues, mistress of none.


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2Hotel9 on March 17, 2007 at 04:38 pm
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Hotel was that picture taken recently cause you do not look very human? You contradicted your self pussy,first you say they were not freinds then you say they were!.
Every state or indivisual condones his own behavior or remarks towards his enemy:

Najadi did say israel should not exist , but 74 yrs BEFORE him VLADAMIR JABOTINSKY said “ we shall start a SPIRITUAL and MATERIAL war of the WORLD against Germany,
. Our jewish INTERESTS call for the TOTAL DISTRUCTION of GERMANY”. (Encyclopidia Britanica + microsoft Encarta encyclopidia. Look under the Balfour decleration ).Also check the british Daily express in 1933/march 24 front page.

pooff is this all you can say ? typical looser.You deny facts if it looked you in the face.

behavior and remarks

lisa on March 17, 2007 at 05:27 pm

lisa: Call your doctor. Have him up your meds!



A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on March 17, 2007 at 05:32 pm

BTW, lisa: 2Hotel9 isn’t really a hotel either!



A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on March 17, 2007 at 05:37 pm

There is no point in debating when there is nothing worthy of reply.  Anti-semitism, as with any form of racism, is not worth debate. It is just wrong. Criticize people for their deeds, not their words.
I sometimes take issue with the Israeli state (just as I take issue with my own government), but to blame all Jews for Israeli policy is akin to blaming all Muslims for the war on terror.
Bring something coherent to the table, Lisa.


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on March 17, 2007 at 05:46 pm

That is a cute kitty! I think lisa is on drugs…

Zsa Zsa on March 17, 2007 at 05:47 pm

The drug goofy be’atch is on is Jewhate. My best estimate is it is the child of at least one non-practicing Jew, if not both parents being non-practicing Jews. No one hates Jews more than a child denied its cultural/religious heritage. Just ask Adolf Hitler, child of a non-practicing Jew.


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2Hotel9 on March 17, 2007 at 06:46 pm

As for Jelical:The Little Princess, she killed a 4 pound Red Squirrel this afternoon. Which makes her a far more valuable part of society than goofy be’atch.


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2Hotel9 on March 17, 2007 at 06:48 pm
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Hi pooff, you said the verse doese not say GENTILES yes but it says GOYIM which means GENTILE. I only translated it for THICKOS like you to understand and generaly people who genualy do not any thing about the UNOMITTED old tesament.

I’m surprised you did not defend the verse about GENTILE children being ANIMALS !!!.

Fire head ,sorry i was a bit ride with you,looking back at what you treid to explain about Muslims and Jews not eating pigs and sharing same prophets, i see you were trying to be Balanced . But Rob8 treid to accuse you of defending Muslims , and that is not allowed in his world.

All three major religions do have a lot in common and espesialy Jews and Muslims whether they like to admit it or not.the reason i seem to be having a go at Judaism or Christianity is because it gets quite boring and annoying to jus pick on Islam

Quoting from Jewish scripture doese not mean i do not agree rather to proove that the same laws are found in Judaism and Chritianity.

Critisizing Ziopnsm or Judaism should not make some one Anti semetic or a self hating Jew,because you also get Muslims nd Christians who critsize their own religion too.

lisa on March 18, 2007 at 03:02 pm
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zsa zsa People on drugs think every one is on them too also can’t write or stay focosed for too long .

Please don’t go nar HEN BEN or you will fly away and never return.

lisa on March 18, 2007 at 03:08 pm

Could that be any more incoherent if it was typed by a monkey smoking crack? I, for one, don’t think so.


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2Hotel9 on March 18, 2007 at 03:29 pm

But Rob8 treid to accuse you of
defending Muslims , and that is not allowed in his world.

I did no such thing.  You know nothing of my world; for instance, I know how to spell, and am not dependent on insult and obscenity in my discourse.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on March 18, 2007 at 03:29 pm

Is she Palestinian? OR what?

Zsa Zsa on March 18, 2007 at 03:50 pm

It is leftarded. ‘Nuff said.


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2Hotel9 on March 18, 2007 at 04:01 pm
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Are you Israeli zsa zsa, or American zionist jew ?
do not mind being one though, they are people , or doese that disturb you ?

Rob English being my 4th language and only been speaking it for 3 yrs i think i’ve done prety well.how many languages do you speak and if we do share one besides English then let us chat in it .

Americans are surrounded by hispanics and hardly one of you speak it let alone write it ( excusing spelling ).

lisa on March 18, 2007 at 04:11 pm

OYE CHICA! COMO ESTAS?


rasberry

Sparkie Arbuckle on March 18, 2007 at 04:33 pm

Rob English being my 4th language and only been speaking it for 3 yrs i think i’ve done prety well.how many languages do you speak and if we do share one besides English then let us chat in it . I don’t care about your language situation; you made a snarky comment about my life, and I gave you a little information about it.  Now you know a little about my life, where before you knew nothing.

Americans are surrounded by hispanics and hardly one of you speak it let alone write it ( excusing spelling ).  Your point?  They are invading us; we aren’t invading them.  We obviously have something they don’t, maybe a lot.  It would behoove them to learn our language and customs.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on March 18, 2007 at 04:35 pm

this woman speaks 4 languages. that’s worldly. i bet she’s hot.


rasberry

Sparkie Arbuckle on March 18, 2007 at 04:37 pm

this woman speaks 4 languages. that’s worldly. i bet she’s hot.

Go for it, Sparkie!  She seems to be your type…


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robert108 on March 18, 2007 at 04:43 pm

No lisa I am neither Israeli nor Jewish, but I believe in the God of the Bible, and his son Jesus Christ is my Lord.  I am an American of mixed heritage.  You do not do well in English, but your message of hatred is universal, unfortunately.

Zsa Zsa on March 18, 2007 at 04:43 pm

She seems to be your type…

Whaddya mean? Rich, smart, soft skin, demanding only the most handsome men, et cetera… ?


rasberry

Sparkie Arbuckle on March 18, 2007 at 05:00 pm

zsa zsa
for a fourth language she does do well.


rasberry

Sparkie Arbuckle on March 18, 2007 at 05:01 pm

Sparkie: That wasn’t what I meant.  The two of you seem to share a writing and commenting style.(so to speak)


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robert108 on March 18, 2007 at 05:17 pm
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If you beleive in god then you would not have used Palestinian nationality as a sarcastic form of ID
because as you are an American of a certain religion, then to your limited knowlage Jesus was a Palestinian jew becaue the time he was born the country was PALESTINE.

As for your Forced religion which is Evangelical , these are the same people who burned, hung ,and blew up churches while you brothrs and sisters were praying,only 20-30 yrs ago YOU would not have been allowed to take a piss, eat, or study with whites.
(segrigation in bible=genesis 9 vers 27 )
Palestinians are Muslims and Christians and for your info they were one of the first Christians with the Syrians to follow jesus while the Jews were planing his Murder, and accusing him of being an illigitamate son of a Roman soldier called PANTERA. His mother called a HARLOT.

Jesus never said he was son of God but Paul did to please the Pagan romans as a meet me 1/2 way,:

“ Paul over praised jesus and called him son of God” ( Acts 9:20 )

“ people of Lycaonia calling APOSTALS GODS in the LIKNESS of men” (acts14:11-15 )

When Mary asked gabriel what was she to explain her self of getting pregnant when no man has seen her or touched her, He explained to her of how GOD CREATED MAN WITHOUT MAN. Meaning Adam who was even a greater miracle.

Incase you put words in jesus mouth like others who to their reasons ommited the gospel of jesus, by producing many different versions and sayings , even added storeis and phrases.Which made it contradictiv:

Jesus ceid “He that beleiveth on me ,beleiveth NOT On ME byt On HIM that SENT me....I HAVE NOT SPOKEN OF MY SELF butthe father which sent me “(john 14:44). FATHER is appleid hundreds of times to him and to others.

“ there is NON other GOD but ME” (1 corinthians 8:4 )

“ for their is ONE GOD” (1 timothy 2:5 )

Trinity is NoT in the BIBLE. it was again started by Paul

“Concerning another Possible son:"the lord has said unto me THOU ART MY SON this day have i begotten thee"(psalms 2:3). So either God has many other begotten sons ,or the whole thing was METAPHORICALLY spoken!

Another possible son was ISRAEL (the person)"thus says the lord that Israel is my SON even my FIRST born “(Exedus 4:22)

Here we have possible QUADTRIPLETS or SIX....+ “Blessed are the peace makers ( who are very hated in this day and age ) for they shall be called THE CHILDREN OF GOD” (john 5:9 )

“..as many as receivrd him,to them gave he power to become the SONS OF GOD” (john 1:12)

‘Seth which was the son of Adam which was the son of God” (luke 4:41)

GOD AS A HUSBAND TOO !!!"FOR MY MAKER IS MY husband, THE LORD OF HOST IS HIS NAME AND THY REDEEMER THE HOLY ONE OF iSRAEL”

then we give Jesus BROTHERS,COUSINS...et but that is not enough so they brought his SEED to EUROPE then to the MORMONS of America who think they are his descendants.

Palestinians have been on that land for thousands of years, it is beleived that they are the descendants of the CANAANITES who were the ORIGINAL peole of CANAAN ( palestine and israel).Abraham came from IRAQ (UR).As it is a religion they belong in every part of the world and NOT Palestine ONLY.

Good night

lisa on Mar