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Bush The Big Spender? Check Again

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Budget Policy: An oft-heard criticism leveled at President Bush is that he’s a “record spender.” And because it’s repeated by those at both ends of the political spectrum, it sounds right. But that doesn’t mean it is right.

Bush is “arguably an even bigger spender than LBJ,” says a story from McClatchy Newspapers on the president’s fiscal record. Pretty tough words, given that LBJ conducted both a war in Vietnam and a War on Poverty simultaneously, racking up huge gains in spending over his term and a half in office.

The McClatchy piece says discretionary spending under Bush has risen an inflation-adjusted 5.3% in his first six years, outstripping the 4.6% under Johnson — and way above President Reagan’s meager 1.9%. By “almost any yardstick,” the article continues, Bush “generally exceeds the spending of his predecessors.”

“Any yardstick,” that is, except the most important of all — spending as a share of GDP. On this, Bush is actually lower than most of his predecessors. Spending as a share of GDP is the most important measure of the size of government, since it measures what government actually takes from the national economy.

In the first six years of his term, including the Office of Management and Budget’s most current estimate for 2007, Bush spent, on average, 20% of GDP.

Was that a lot? Not really. As the chart shows, it puts him in the middle of the presidential pack. Since Johnson took office in late 1963, spending as a share of GDP has averaged 20.4%. And, ironically, spending under LBJ was the lowest.
So rather than a “record” spender, as some claim, Bush is actually below average. Indeed, he’s within statistical spitting distance of President Clinton, who on average spent 19.6% of GDP.

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If you really want to worry, look long-term. Bush has tried to do something about runaway entitlements but has gotten no help. As GAO chief David Walker has noted, $50.5 trillion in entitlement spending looms in the next few decades — with no way to pay for it.

Read the whole thing.
As usual, the ongoing propaganda is simply wrong.

Comments

If you really want to worry, look long-term. Bush has tried to do something about runaway entitlements but has gotten no help.

But hasn’t he added 3.5 trillion to our debt?
How much is Iraq going to cost?
Prescription drug plan?
Iran war?


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 08:57 am

Mark: Simply reforming SS would take care of all that, with plenty to spare.  Duh.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on October 26, 2007 at 10:23 am

r108
And how would you reform SS?


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 10:50 am

And how would you reform SS?

Make it into a real investment program, not a welfare program from the general fund.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on October 26, 2007 at 11:31 am

So when do we start? How will we pay for those that have already had taxes taken out of their pay for their retirement but the government spent?


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 11:51 am

Mark: If you are really sincere, and if you really don’t know the obvious answers to your questions, I might be willing to spell it out for you, but if you’re just doing your usual adolescent trolling, forget it.

Here’s a question for you:  How much will it cost us to overhaul the entire SS boondoggle now, as compared to doing it after it goes officially broke?  Fixing something always costs more, the longer you wait to fix it.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on October 26, 2007 at 11:57 am

Oh Oh....r108 doesn’t know how to fix SS. You say we should reform it but ya just can’t tell me how you would do it.
I’ll try again:
How will we pay for those that have already had taxes taken out of their pay for their retirement but the government spent?


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 12:08 pm

Mark: Once again, you show yourself to be an adolescent troll.  Answer my question first, if you can.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on October 26, 2007 at 02:04 pm

r108
Just as I thought....you have no clue.

You made a statement and I asked a question.
Same question: How will we pay for those that have already had taxes taken out of their pay for their retirement but the government spent?


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 06:08 pm

Mark: I already gave my answer, but it apparently went over your head.  I’ll repeat; make SS a real investment program.  If you don’t know what that means, read up on it.  Enough dodging; answer my question, please.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on October 26, 2007 at 06:12 pm

r108
make SS a real investment program.
Ok, how long will you avoid the question that obviously you have no answer to: How will we pay for those that have already had taxes taken out of their pay for their retirement but the government spent?


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 07:04 pm

How will we pay for those that have already had taxes taken out of their pay for their retirement but the government spent?

Hello, McFly?! Anybody home?

The answer is to make it a real investment program.

Since you’re economically pigheaded: real investments PAY!

robert108 answered you over and over again. You’re just not listening.

likwidshoe on October 26, 2007 at 07:30 pm

lik
so the money taking out of your pay goes into your account?


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 07:38 pm

lik
in a real investment program would the money taken out of your pay go into your personal account?
Or would a real investment program be completely voluntary?


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 07:56 pm

Mark: How will you pay those who have paid into the program after it goes broke, which is unavoidable with the present system?  I know you don’t care about any of this; you’re just trolling.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on October 26, 2007 at 08:40 pm
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